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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:39 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:39 am to upgrayedd
quote:Please don’t discuss posts actually made by anyone. It’s much more enlightening to set up these strawmen and then assign them to “these people” so you can rant against something few, if anyone, here actually believes.
These people are still staunch believers that the state and the media are altruistic. These are also the same people that demand that we give these entities more and more dominion over the population every day.
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:39 am to REG861
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Yes I’m sure the Pentagon publicly advertises the location of its evil bio laboratories on a website.
"Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP)
This program provides assistance in: conducting bio-surveillance to strengthen public health and veterinary systems; practicing biosafety and biosecurity to secure facilities, conduct risk assessments, and create expertise; and conducting cooperative biological research."
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:40 am to Lakeboy7
Does Putin have more support in eastern Russia like say Vladivostok than he does have in western Russian cities that are closer to Ukraine? Just kind of figured the eastern cities would be more likely to believe any propaganda due to regional knowledge. Like I figure someone in say Kyiv would be more likely to know someone on the western side of Russia due to geography. Like know zero people omin Santa Fe but I know tons of people sprinkled throughout all the southern cities and states.
Anyone feel free to chime in. I know this is a shot in the dark but just curious.
Anyone feel free to chime in. I know this is a shot in the dark but just curious.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 8:42 am
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:40 am to SDVTiger
Look, I don't believe everything TC says, and I can pick out when he's being combative just for the sake of it, but he raises a lot of relevant questions. Questions that even people like Jimmy Dore and Glenn Greenwald ask. So, the idea that this is about "owning the libs" is ridiculous considering he's asking the same question as progressives are.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:41 am to Obtuse1
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Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP)
This program provides assistance in: conducting bio-surveillance to strengthen public health and veterinary systems; practicing biosafety and biosecurity to secure facilities, conduct risk assessments, and create expertise; and conducting cooperative biological research. Provide fuel for conspiracy theorists around the world, and serve as ready made propaganda during wartime."
You left out a part.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:43 am to upgrayedd
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So, the idea that this is about "owning the libs" is ridiculous considering he's asking the same question as progressives are.
How many progressives are being used as pro Putin propaganda in Russian media? Is it a lot?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:44 am to WDE24
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Please don’t discuss posts actually made by anyone. It’s much more enlightening to set up these strawmen and then assign them to “these people” so you can rant against something few, if anyone, here actually believes.
Decatur and RC are upset at the fact that TC is going against the narrative and are basically calling it ammunition for Russian propagandists. That's pretty explicit. Hell, they speak of his show in generalities. I'm responding to that.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:45 am to LeClerc
I'm skeptical of almost all reports from this conflict. American media has demonstrated a heavy bias and lack of credibility over the past few years. They have been inaccurate (at best) on so many issues over the past few years, and I don't trust them to report accurately or honestly about any topic that even touches American politics, Covid, or war in any way.
And try as they might....most of the European reporters on the ground likely don't have the background to accurately identify actual weapons, tactics, and strategy unfolding right before them. And it's extremely hard for them to articulate what's happening beyond what they are seeing even under the best of circumstances, much less when there are armed troops and violent conflict around.
And I don't have time to always research every single topic with a wide variety of sources to form an opinion or even gauge what's really happening. So.....do any of you have a go-to as far as getting accurate information on how things are on the ground in Ukraine? Who do you trust here and why?
And try as they might....most of the European reporters on the ground likely don't have the background to accurately identify actual weapons, tactics, and strategy unfolding right before them. And it's extremely hard for them to articulate what's happening beyond what they are seeing even under the best of circumstances, much less when there are armed troops and violent conflict around.
And I don't have time to always research every single topic with a wide variety of sources to form an opinion or even gauge what's really happening. So.....do any of you have a go-to as far as getting accurate information on how things are on the ground in Ukraine? Who do you trust here and why?
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 8:46 am
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:46 am to LeClerc
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How many progressives are being used as pro Putin propaganda in Russian media? Is it a lot?
How many progressives have the most popular cable show in the US? They're presenting the same message. Does he have an obligation to keep his mouth shut about these issues because he's got a large platform?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:48 am to upgrayedd
Discussing and castigating tucker’s provocations does not equate in any manner to claiming the state and media are altruistic and should be given dominion over the people. That’s a strawman.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:48 am to dewster
It’s hard to get a feel for how things are going tactically… most everything out there deals with the humanitarian side bc that’s what sells…
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:48 am to upgrayedd
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You still think that Trump colluded with Russia so of course you think these things.
Either your reading comprehension sucks or you have the memory of a goldfish. I have said multiple times in this thread that I don't think he colluded and he took stances that happened benefit Putin.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:50 am to SDVTiger
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imagine still believing that
You have to be a complete lunatic at this point to think that way
Imagine completely making shite up in your pea sized brain over and over until you believe it. You'd have to be a complete lunatic to do that.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:50 am to REG861
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REG861
Lighten up Francis, you're going to give yourself a stroke
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:50 am to LeClerc
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It's all just to "own the libs."
A big reason Trump was elected was because he said he was going to end pointless foreign wars. The grassroots political right was anti-war before Joe Biden became President. It wasn’t a switch from the mid-2000s just to own the libs now. The switch occurred because there was a Republican leading pushing anti-war views.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:52 am to Dr RC
media/progs/tucker/poliboard/etc
stfu already
I want updates on Javelins BBQing ruskies in their little Z tin cans.
Wolverines Biatches!!
stfu already
I want updates on Javelins BBQing ruskies in their little Z tin cans.
Wolverines Biatches!!
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:52 am to LeClerc
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Like the PT?
Not many ppl voted for this shite show over there that i can see
They are probably lying like all the OT posters tho
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:53 am to The Boat
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The switch occurred because there was a Republican leading pushing anti-war views.
Yep, it's amazing just how pro-war the anti-war left wing suddenly became
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:53 am to Sooner5030
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media/progs/tucker/poliboard/etc
stfu already
I want updates on Javelins BBQing ruskies in their little Z tin cans.
Wolverines Biatches!!
Learn what "Telegram" is and how to use it. There's plenty of pictures of crispy ruskies on that.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:54 am to upgrayedd
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How many progressives have the most popular cable show in the US? They're presenting the same message. Does he have an obligation to keep his mouth shut about these issues because he's got a large platform?
Pretty much all of American media is suspect these days.
At worst they are propagandist who are heavily influenced by the ruling class and resent the existence of Americans in flyover country. They view people outside of the coastal elite bubbles like a small child views a zoo animal. They might occasionally observe but can't really show empathy towards or relate to any concerns and challenges those people have. This is why the 2016 election shocked them.
At best they are trying to scare/shock people to get more clicks and views to help their bottom line. This is why Fox has Tucker on the payroll and gives him some elbow room on the topics he covers. He's made a living asking inconvenient questions to put people on the spot and sometimes frames his statements in the most blunt way possible for shock value.
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How many progressives are being used as pro Putin propaganda in Russian media? Is it a lot?
I'd argue that progressive policies are at least partially fueled and shaped by former soviet tactics and some political world views. If they aren't, there are some curious parallels between them around censorship, the abandonment of liberalism, and authoritarian government.
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