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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:01 am to
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Meh. I still think the sanctions will be lifted a few months after Russia finally wins the war. We’ll make a show of supporting whatever insurgency pops up for a few months and then abandon them.


Sounds about right for the time frame. Takes a couple of months to set up new money laundering accounts for our politicians and lobbyists.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:01 am to
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Like I stated in the other thread, if you aren’t full bore “ra ra” with your blue and yellow pompoms, you are a “Poutine” lover.


And if you're not full bore "Zelensky is a neo nazi american puppet and Ukrainians really want to be aligned with Russia, not Europe" you're a tool of the media machine.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139064 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:04 am to
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Dude, that is clearly their view, hence the responses and downvotes in this thread since the beginning.



Like I stated in the other thread, if you aren’t full bore “ra ra” with your blue and yellow pompoms, you are a “Poutine” lover.

It is how you end up with the progressive wing of US politics dismissing things like the Azov Battalion and the severe corruption of Ukraine, which permits them to openly support funding and weaponizing these groups.

It is “freedom fries” all over again.

You are either all in or you are a traitor.

Yeah, the same people, like Decatur, that said Bush is/was a war criminal are now following the tactics of the Bush era. In fact, moreso than that. They'll beat their chest around here telling us how they're for democracy and freedom, then tell us how someone is an enemy sympathizer and their mouthpiece because they dare to question anything regarding the official position of the state.

It's mind-numbing to watch them act Putinesque in the process of claiming everyone who pushes back on the narrative is a Putin sympathizer. It's bizarre yet sadly predictable.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77577 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:04 am to
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And if you're not full bore "Zelensky is a neo nazi american puppet and Ukrainians really want to be aligned with Russia, not Europe" you're a tool of the media machine.


Definitely on the PT Board, but I don’t go there anymore.

Outside of that place, I haven’t seen that view.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38246 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:20 am to


Yes I’m sure the Pentagon publicly advertises the location of its evil bio laboratories on a website. Pakistan and Syria? I’m going to go out on a limb and saying you’re grotesquely contorting this. Why don’t you explain to us what you think is going on here? I know that will require not posting a meme so I won’t hold my breath.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 8:26 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61509 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:20 am to
It's my position that Tucker's "criticisms" are nowhere near in good faith. The dude was openly rooting for Russia just a couple weeks ago. It's no surprise that his jackass "I'll lie if I'm cornered" self is getting used as Russian propaganda.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 8:22 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:21 am to
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We are entering into the third week of war in Eastern Europe. The Russians steamroller continues to build pressure if not momentum. The Russian siege of Mariupol grows desperate with only marginal regard for preventing civilian casualties. It is completely surrounded with limited access to water. Without conquering Mariupol, the Russians cannot transfer their forces towards taking the Dnieper crossings and enveloping the Ukrainian field army in the Donbas. So the Ukrainians just hold.

The big news is the Russians accusing the United States of funding a biological weapons program in the Ukraine, including the use of using infected birds as offensive disease vectors. There is considerable concern that the Russians would use this as an excuse to use chemical or even biological weapons. The use of chemical weapons is never far from the Russian operational doctrine. Biological weapons are something else entirely. But neither are war winning weapons. They only amplify the human price of victory, and break taboos of modern human suffering.

The Siege of Mariupol is a harbinger of what may be to come as Vladimir Putin may choose to 'double down' on his cold gamble. He can't afford to lose. He's got to win to stay in power. Barring that, we've got a chance at a palace coup. I envision something like the Grand Fascist Council's ousting of Mussolini. But in 2-3 months it will be too late to save Russia from an economic dark age as financial and commercial channels atrophy intractably. Russia will be thrust back economically in time to 1991, perhaps even worse.

Business remains good for the resistance. Russian ineptness continues. Their offensive has slowed to either a crawl, or spurious and isolated advances. This war is already grinding down into one of attrition. As long as the Russians can continue to feed the beast, though, they can still win the conventional war with only time. But having seen demonstrations in streets occupied by the Russians must assure even Putin that he cannot hold Ukraine. So the resistance continues.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99019 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:23 am to
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The pedophile lover is still whining?


Yes. The comrade is imploding actually

You have his other antifa friends losing it also
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139064 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:26 am to
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It's my position that Tucker's "criticisms" are nowhere near in good faith. The dude was openly rooting for Russia just a couple weeks ago. It's no surprise that his jackass "I'll lie if I'm cornered" self is getting used as Russian propaganda.


You still think that Trump colluded with Russia so of course you think these things.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69264 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:29 am to
Tucker now sounds exactly like Rachel Maddow on Air America and any number of liberals during the Iraq War. It's crazy to see the left like this.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99019 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:30 am to
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You still think that Trump colluded with Russia so of course you think these things.



imagine still believing that
You have to be a complete lunatic at this point to think that way

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:31 am to
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It's my position that Tucker's "criticisms" are nowhere near in good faith. The dude was openly rooting for Russia just a couple weeks ago. It's no surprise that his jackass "I'll lie if I'm cornered" self is getting used as Russian propaganda.



Tucker is just a sign of the times. Its not about a principled position on the issues its about "sticking it to the libs". The left did the same with Trump.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139064 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:34 am to
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imagine still believing that
You have to be a complete lunatic at this point to think that way


These people are still staunch believers that the state and the media are altruistic. These are also the same people that demand that we give these entities more and more dominion over the population every day. If they come to the realization that these entities are only looking to empower themselves over the general public then their worlds will come crashing down so they just refuse to acknowledge it despite it being in front of their faces.

Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:35 am to
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It's my position that Tucker's "criticisms" are nowhere near in good faith. The dude was openly rooting for Russia just a couple weeks ago. It's no surprise that his jackass "I'll lie if I'm cornered" self is getting used as Russian propaganda.

It's all just to "own the libs." Tucker Carlson is a whore and will say whatever it takes to keep his ratings up. That's it, all about the ratings.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:35 am to
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Its not about a principled position on the issues its about "sticking it to the libs".
it’s a little simpler than that. It’s about provoking and/or pandering to get eyeballs. Nothing else.

Tucker is an intelligent person. He knows exactly what he is doing and why.
This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99019 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:37 am to
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These people are still staunch believers that the state and the media are altruistic. These are also the same people that demand that we give these entities more and more dominion over the population every day. If they come to the realization that these entities are only looking to empower themselves over the general public then their worlds will come crashing down so they just refuse to acknowledge it despite it being in front of their faces.


Yup. This thread has turned into a liberal hivemind
All these clowns voted for this
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:37 am to
Like the PT?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46529 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:38 am to
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Yup. This thread has turned into a liberal hivemind


So I'm now a liberal? Ok.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:39 am to
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Yup. This thread has turned into a liberal hivemind
All these clowns voted for this

Hmmmm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:39 am to
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it’s a little simpler than that. It’s about provoking and/or pandering to get eyeballs. Nothing else.

Tucker is an intelligent person. He knows exactly what he is doing and why.




Articulated much better than my post.

I actually met Tucker at a resort in Mexico during the Crossfire days, not a bad guy.
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