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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:49 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:49 pm to John Barron
imagine being in Kindergarten and the kindergarten bully in your class starts stealing all of your shite and killing the other kids in class. Then some of the American kids in the1st grade inexplicably start cheering for the murderous psychopath kid.
frick what a bunch of human shitstains those 1st graders are.
frick what a bunch of human shitstains those 1st graders are.
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:53 pm to Camp Randall
ISW Update March 25, 2025
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Key Takeaways:
US, Ukrainian, and Russian officials reached some agreements for temporary ceasefires on strikes against energy infrastructure and in the Black Sea. The details of these ceasefires remain unclear and evaluating the ceasefires’ specifics in the absence of officially published joint texts of the agreements signed by Russia and Ukraine remains difficult.
The Kremlin's and Umerov's statements suggest that Russia and Ukraine may not yet be in agreement about whether the ceasefire has gone into effect or not as of March 25.
Putin continues to reject Trump's and Zelensky's proposed temporary frontline ceasefire, despite agreeing to some form of ceasefire for strikes on energy infrastructure and in the Black Sea. Putin’s persistent stalling and intransigence are inhibiting Trump's efforts to secure a lasting and stable peace settlement.
The Kremlin stated that it will not implement the agreed ceasefire in the Black Sea until the United States lifts sanctions on Russian state-owned agricultural bank Rosselkhozbank and other unspecified financial organizations involved in international food and fertilizer trade.
Russian forces recently advanced in the Kursk-Sumy Oblast border area, near Toretsk, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
The Russian military continues to deny rotations to soldiers who have been fighting in the war in Ukraine for years.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:47 pm to doubleb
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:32 pm to NC_Tigah
Funding to revive its oil and gas production.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:05 pm to John Barron
Piss off spammer.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:52 am to John Barron
appreciate the updates , mate
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:04 am to StormyMcMan
Donnie's organizational skills shining through. Team Trump clueless as usual.
Trump's team is totally inexpreienced in diplomatic negotiations, especially when dealing with the Russians. They are being led around by their noses by Putin and are a disgrace to the US.
The Trump Circus has three separate negotiations and three separate and significantly different statements issued afterwards. How does that happen? There is absolutely no coordination or any other form of organization. They have no idea of what they're doing.
The Russians are stating that agreements over sanctions were made when there is no evidence of this in the US or Ukrainian statements. They're just adding what they want to their statement after the 'negotiation' is finished. So they are manipulating this process on the first day.
No shuttle diplomacy between parties with a single agreement built through the process. Like, you know... adults. Just a series of separate proposed deals with Team Trump hoping that the other side will somehow agree.
If you're confused - and you should be - here is a good breakdown of Team Trump's shite sandwich.
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ISW Update
The details of these ceasefires remain unclear and evaluating the ceasefires’ specifics in the absence of officially published joint texts of the agreements signed by Russia and Ukraine remains difficult.
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ISW flags conflicting messages from US, Ukraine and Russia, plus Kremlin’s manipulative ceasefire demands. Analysts reviewed the separate readouts from Washington, Kyiv and Moscow and found little clarity on what, if anything, was agreed. There’s no published text outlining terms between the US and Ukraine or the US and Russia, making it difficult to gauge how a ceasefire might work. The statements share a few broad themes but diverge in major ways.
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Analysts concluded that the Kremlin’s official statement after the Saudi negotiations is vague, includes ceasefire conditions not mentioned by the US or Ukraine, and leaves room for disputes over how any deal should be interpreted — particularly on sanctions and enforcement.
Moscow’s statement referenced a broad range of sanctions it wants lifted but failed to specify which financial institutions or companies are included. It also didn’t identify who would interpret the terms, oversee sanctions relief, or ensure all sides comply.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy noted that Ukraine, Russia and the US issued separate statements because US-Russia discussions about “facilitating” Russia’s return to agricultural and trade markets were not part of US-Ukrainian negotiations.
Trump's team is totally inexpreienced in diplomatic negotiations, especially when dealing with the Russians. They are being led around by their noses by Putin and are a disgrace to the US.
The Trump Circus has three separate negotiations and three separate and significantly different statements issued afterwards. How does that happen? There is absolutely no coordination or any other form of organization. They have no idea of what they're doing.
The Russians are stating that agreements over sanctions were made when there is no evidence of this in the US or Ukrainian statements. They're just adding what they want to their statement after the 'negotiation' is finished. So they are manipulating this process on the first day.
No shuttle diplomacy between parties with a single agreement built through the process. Like, you know... adults. Just a series of separate proposed deals with Team Trump hoping that the other side will somehow agree.
If you're confused - and you should be - here is a good breakdown of Team Trump's shite sandwich.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:31 am to Coeur du Tigre
Random tweets
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They are claiming a violation by saying they shot down a drone that was targeting energy infrastructure even though nothing was hit
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Russia is negotiating with the US on the resumption of gas supplies to Europe via the Nord Stream gas pipelines.
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Poland will be able to conduct combat operations only for 1-2 weeks, because it is for this period that the reserves of shells will be enough-the head of Polish National Security Bureau.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. They are claiming a violation by saying they shot down a drone that was targeting energy infrastructure even though nothing was hit
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I got a call from Romania asking me not to say that they had a drone crash. They said: "Why did you turn on the electronic warfare, the drones are flying at us?" I said: "Shoot them down, you have 40 F-16s."
Ambassador of Ukraine to the United Kingdom Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.
"The Baltic states understand that there is no Article 5 of NATO (on collective defense) and there never was. Poland understands this, where our missiles and russian missiles periodically fall. Romania understands everything, but it's just silent," he added.
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Russian FM Lavrov says Zelensky “understands that his days are numbered” and that his “bright image” has faded.
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Trump admits russia may be delaying Ukraine peace talks, — Politico.
"But it's quite possible that they're deliberately stalling," he said, adding that he himself has repeatedly used such tactics in his own negotiations to buy time.
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:15 am to doubleb
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My thesis is that we haven’t sent that much aid (especially in cash) because the numbers were inflated for political reasons by both sides.
The right wanted Biden to look bad at a time when Americans were suffering from inflation and high prices.
The left wanted to inflate the numbers to make Biden look like a tough guy.
I think if some neutral party did a review of the Biden aid, and how much actually got yo Ukraine by the end of last year, it would be closer to 220B than 300B of direct war aid.
Ever seen The Office?
"I can raise or lower my cholesterol at will"
"Why would you raise your cholesterol, Dwight?"
"So I can lower it"
They weren't raising the aid values
We know for a fact that Biden used presidential drawdown authority. You aren't going to inflate the value sent using this mechanism because if you send too much Congress is going to (rightfully) call the President out for skirting around their control of the purse. You lower the values of things you're sending other countries via drawdown.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:26 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Trump's team is totally inexpreienced in diplomatic negotiations, especially when dealing with the Russians.
Kushner really was a light in the darkness on this during Trump term 1.
I think the organization of the admin overall has taken a nosedive compared to when he was heavily involved with the administration. If they had more structure a lot of the lines of attack Democrats are currently using would be cut off.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:24 am to VolSquatch
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We know for a fact that Biden used presidential drawdown authority. You aren't going to inflate the value sent using this mechanism because if you send too much Congress is going to (rightfully) call the President out for skirting around their control of the purse. You lower the values of things you're sending other countries via drawdown.
Thd hole in your argument is Biden. There isn’t anything substantial to say he was really trying to help Ukraine by making a big difference. He spoon fed aid when he could have really gone out that first year of do. Hd was scared of Putin, but he was scared to do anything big.
Congress allocated X amount of funds. Biden never delivered X . Right wingers took the sums authorized by Congress and every time aid was actually sent they would scream there goes 20 Billion more and add that to what Congress authorized. That grew the number each time. It was political.
Trump said 1.5 million Russians were killed. A million Ukes. 300 Billion of aid was given. The highest inflation ever. Do you see a pattern here? The man exaggerates.
Here is a link to a thorough analysis of US foreign aid to Ukraine: Aid
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:06 am to doubleb
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There isn’t anything substantial to say he was really trying to help Ukraine by making a big difference. He spoon fed aid when he could have really gone out that first year of do. Hd was scared of Putin, but he was scared to do anything big.
And even if that were the case (He was scared of Putin so he didn't help but also he just didn't want to? lol) inflating values isn't how drawdown works. He had a hostile congress to deal with. Its just not realistic.
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Congress allocated X amount of funds. Biden never delivered X
Drawdown goes around Congress. This actually makes my point, he used Drawdown to send more than is actually on the books.
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ight wingers took the sums authorized by Congress and every time aid was actually sent they would scream there goes 20 Billion more and add that to what Congress authorized. That grew the number each time. It was political.
Exactly, which is why he lowered the value sent via drawdown authority
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300 Billion of aid was given
I wouldn't be surprised if it were more than that. But I don't really care about the number itself all that much, its the premise that more was sent than they are letting on
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:14 am to VolSquatch
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I wouldn't be surprised if it were more than that. But I don't really care about the number itself all that much, its the premise that more was sent than they are letting on
Provide some legitimate analysis that indicated we donated 300 Billion or more.
And I wouldn’t be surprised is some numbers were deflated, but not 100 Billion dollars worth. That’s why I estimated 220 Billion and not <200 Billion.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:18 am to StormyMcMan
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Russia is negotiating with the US on the resumption of gas supplies to Europe via the Nord Stream gas pipelines.
ButTucker the Stupid Phucker, and all of the Twatter Kremlin chirpers said it was destroyed even though Gazprom almost immediately filed a $4.5 billion insurance claim to repair it, which has been denied.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:21 am to doubleb
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Provide some legitimate analysis that indicated we donated 300 Billion or more.
I love when idiots say "provide legitimate analysis" for other people's claims with 0 of their own.
You've already shown you don't understand the mechanisms of Presidential Drawdown, why its used, or how. If you don't understand that of course you won't understand.
You don't even realize the gravity of what you're asking. You're basically demanding a complete stranger online find every single thing we have sent to Ukraine, find the values of those items, total the value, and then take off X percent of the value to get an estimate. Hours of work. How ridiculous
But again, you can't even answer a yes or no question. So no one should be surprised.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:12 am to VolSquatch
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I love when idiots say "provide legitimate analysis" for other people's claims with 0 of their own.
Before I suggested that, I edited my post and provided some.
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ou've already shown you don't understand the mechanisms of Presidential Drawdown, why its used, or how. If you don't understand that of course you won't understand.
If you can not that’s fine, but changing the subject by attacking me is not evidence of anything.
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You don't even realize the gravity of what you're asking. You're basically demanding a complete stranger online find every single thing we have sent to Ukraine, find the values of those items, total the value, and then take off X percent of the value to get an estimate. Hours of work.
I found a lengthy analysis on line that backed up my thesis. It didn’t take me hours, but then again I wasn’t fillerbustering.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:16 am to doubleb
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I found a lengthy analysis on line that backed up my thesis. It didn’t take me hours, but then again I wasn’t fillerbustering.
Your lengthy analysis is using drawdown values, not real values
Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:08 am to VolSquatch
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Your lengthy analysis is using drawdown values, not real values
You must not have read my link.
Some pertinent information from my linked analysis:
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The U.S. Congress has voted through five bills that have provided Ukraine with aid since the war began, doing so most recently in April 2024. The total budget authority under these bills—the “headline” figure often cited by news media—is $175 billion
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2024. *Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA) is not counted in the cost of the bills, but the bills do include funds for the replenishment of U.S. stockpiles to replace weapons and equipment sent via PDA.
The drawdowns since 2021 given Ukraine total 31.7 Billion per government reports.
Govt
The 300 Billion dollar figure is too high.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:09 am to VolSquatch
"Ukrainians are failing to make any progress in Belgorod, about to be totally removed from Kursk, and are now beginning to lose ground in the east again where a wave of costly counterattacks momentarily stabilized certain portions of the Donetsk front.
So what do we see from the Ukrainians?
Four Russian war correspondents killed in a matter of days. The death of one would not be particularly notable as they’re embedded and hard to distinguish from the end of an FPV drone. However the fact that four have died in such a short time is highly unusual and notable. Adding the close call with Patrick I’d say this is Ukrainian intelligence removing opposition propaganda and achieving “wins” in the face of crushing defeats.
Expect strikes on former Ukrainian cities killing civilians, there is a recognizable pattern here."
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