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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:12 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:12 am to
"In the end, due to the Russians striking the flanks, advancing through the gas pipes and demolishing the bridges around Sudzha, the [Ukrainian] defence forces did come dangerously close to being trapped. This became evident between 6 and 9 March...

'The retreat was totally forced,' added Dmytro, the artillery platoon commander. 'We knew time was running out and we only had days or hours left, yet we spent a week in complete chaos waiting for them to give at least some kind of permission to withdraw. Staying there and continuing to fight was beyond unbearable. In the end, we made the decision to leave on our own…

There was no encirclement, as our command says. But there was no planned withdrawal that would have enabled us to save our equipment either. Many units simply left on foot and marched 15-20 km.'"


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:14 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:17 am to
"per government reports" lol
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:32 am to
If I buy drugs from a murdering criminal drug dealer, he's still a murdering criminal drug dealer.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:39 am to
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"per government reports"


If you don’t have any information of analysis to discuss say so just say you were BSing and joining in with the far right crowd.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

If you don’t have any information of analysis to discuss say so just say you were BSing and joining in with the far right crowd.



Like that time when you disagreed with my premise that CitizenK was lying, but wouldn't say that you actually believed him either?

You have 0 credibility to say anything to anyone. Its actually in the negatives.

I provided my thesis:

I think Trump's number came from somewhere, though I don't necessarily think that is the absolute 100% accurate truth.

I do think the number is higher than reported, for the reasons I laid out which you ignored because you don't understand them. It could be higher than what even Trump thinks. Its certainly possible when dealing with military equipment, cash, and other "aid" we have sent Ukraine.

Your so called "analysis" is basically saying "It could be higher, or lower, or exactly the amount reported"

You can't commit to anything. You don't even know what you believe.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

"In the end, due to the Russians striking the flanks, advancing through the gas pipes and demolishing the bridges around Sudzha, the [Ukrainian] defence forces did come dangerously close to being trapped


Wrong John Barton posted that the Ukrainians were surrounded and being slaughtered. We saw video evidence of that. This guy obviously doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Who posted this anyway???
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:44 pm to
Ukraine's list of energy facilities banned from attacks differs from Russian version, Energy Ministry says

by Kateryna Denisova March 26, 2025 8:21 PM

Ukraine's list of energy facilities Kyiv wants Russia to stop striking during a partial ceasefire is at odds with Russia's, European Pravda reported on March 26, citing a response to a request from the Energy Ministry.

The Energy Ministry told European Pravda that Kyiv and Washington had agreed to a list of energy facilities Ukraine wants Russia to stop striking as part of a truce on energy attacks. This list is differs from the one Russia and the U.S. agreed to a day prior, according to the Energy Ministry.

Following two-day talks in Saudi Arabia, the Kremlin said on March 25 that Russia and the U.S. had agreed on a list of Russian and Ukrainian energy facilities that were barred from attacks under a partial ceasefire between Kyiv and Moscow.

According to the Kremlin, the list included oil refineries, as well as oil and gas pipelines and storage facilities, including pumping stations. The list also included power production and transmission facilities, including power plants, substations, and transformers. Among power plants, the Kremlin specifically named nuclear power stations and hydroelectric dams.

Ukraine's list includes a ban on strikes on the on the electric power, oil and gas, nuclear and coal industries, as well as energy equipment manufacturing facilities.

Ukrainian oil and gas production facilities — which, according to the Energy Ministry have suffered the most Russian attacks as of late — weren't on Kremlin's list, the ministry told European Pravda.

Ukraine has recorded eight confirmed hits against its energy facilities by Russian forces since March 18, when the Kremlin claimed to have ordered a pause on such attacks, presidential advisor Dmytro Lytvyn said on March 25.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:51 pm to
Russia is spreading falsehoods about Ukraine violating energy ceasefire terms – Ukraine's General Staff

VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — Wednesday, 26 March 2025, 15:39

Claims by the Defence Ministry of Russia that Ukraine has allegedly violated the terms of the ceasefire concerning energy infrastructure are false.

Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Quote: "On 25-26 March, Ukraine’s Defence Forces did not carry out UAV strikes on energy facilities in Russia’s Kursk and Bryansk oblasts, nor on energy infrastructure in Russian-occupied Crimea."

Details: The General Staff emphasised that the Russian military is spreading false and baseless accusations in order to prolong the war, continue its propaganda campaign and pursue typical Russian efforts to deceive the world.

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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:52 pm to
What about grocery stores, apartment buildings, schools and hospitals?
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

typical Russian efforts to deceive the world


God knows we see the fruitcakes of their labor here daily.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:16 pm to
France announces $2 billion military aid package for Ukraine

by Kateryna Denisova March 26, 2025 9:52 PM

France will provide Ukraine with a new military aid package worth 2 billion euros ($2.1 billion), President Emmanuel Macron announced on March 26 at a press conference with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky in Paris.

"We must continue to provide immediate support to Ukraine — it is necessary in order to keep up the resistance,” Macron said after announcing the aid.

The package includes anti-tank missiles, air defense systems, Mirage fighter jet missiles, armored vehicles, ammunition, and other aid, Macron said.

The assistance will also provide for the production of equipment in Ukraine.

"Our goal is to help Ukraine firstly to hold the situation on the front line, to resist (Russian) aggression, but at the same time to bring closer the prospects for a lasting peace that we all want to see," the French president said.

The two leaders met ahead of a "coalition of the willing" summit. The Paris summit on March 27 will bring together Germany, Poland, the U.K., and other coalition members who have pledged to support Ukraine's post-war security.

Over 30 countries have expressed willingness to contribute to the coalition's peacekeeping force, Starmer's spokesperson said on March 17, confirming that the initiative has entered an "operational phase."

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Russia is spreading falsehoods about Ukraine violating energy ceasefire terms – Ukraine's General Staff

Quote: "On 25-26 March, Ukraine’s Defence Forces did not carry out UAV strikes on energy facilities in Russia’s Kursk and Bryansk oblasts, nor on energy infrastructure in Russian-occupied Crimea."


They did it on 23-24 March while ceasefire talks were underway. Neither side has good faith arguments here.

Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 3:54 pm to
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They did it on 23-24 March while ceasefire talks were underway. Neither side has good faith arguments here.



The guys who blew up a pipeline that benefits a country giving money to them, shot a missile into Poland to start WW3, and tried to take down X because Elon was mean to them online also didn't follow through with a ceasefire? I am totally shocked.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Neither side has good faith arguments here.


Remember when Putin had an agreement with these men? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:15 pm to
Let’s see Ukraine practically ran the Rusdian navy out of the Black Sea. Now Russia agreed to a moratorium on strikes in the Black Sea, but only if Europe lifts sanctions on them.

I know Trump is supposed to be the master dealer, but it seems to me that Putin is eating everybody’s lunch here.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:24 pm to
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