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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:12 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:12 am to VolSquatch
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Nuclear proliferation makes a ton of sense for basically any country on an individual level because of the fact that you can punch up. People can discount the nuke issue all they want, but both the US and the rest of the world treat countries with nukes and countries with a lot of natural resources with kid gloves for the most part. Russia has both.
For a long time, the US was explicit about limiting the number of countries with nukes. I guess we will see if the 'nuclear proliferation for everyone' is going to work out, but I think it will effects which will pose serious dilemmas for everyone.
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:15 am to StormyMcMan
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StormyMcMan
Dude....you are posting fake news. That CNN Marco Rubio video is clearly edited. When they talk about Starlink it's clearly AI. Why are you posting clearly edited fake AI videos?
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:15 am to crazy4lsu
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For a long time, the US was explicit about limiting the number of countries with nukes. I guess we will see if the 'nuclear proliferation for everyone' is going to work out, but I think it will effects which will pose serious dilemmas for everyone.
I don’t think it’s s good idea. Not in the world we live in.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:16 am to TigersnJeeps
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Would love to know Parliament's sentiments on Zelensky's performance in the last year.
Generally, Zelensky has enjoyed pretty solid support since the war started.
Here's a pretty good article about Zelensky's internal support. LINK
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:19 am to doubleb
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I remember he said Russia list 1.5 million troops
They have two militaries, first an actual military and second a national guard which is only for internal population use.
As far as the $350 billion, that might include the javelins, blankets as well as our cost to conduct training in Ukraine which we did for several years. Additionally that could be other financial aid such as from USAID and all other agencies ever since it became independent from Russia.
We did have a program for Ukrainians to come to the US on a work visa for a year to return which started under Clinton and continued at least well into Obama's administration.
We also probably paid for some of their military to fight in Afghanistan which they did. I'm forgetting force size but maybe a company in size. A number of NATO members did. Poland had the Pork Eater patches for their troops in Afghanistan.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 8:21 am
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:20 am to TigersnJeeps
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Would love to know Parliament's sentiments on Zelensky's performance in the last year. And how they view ongoing Martial Law..
Ukraine's parliament votes in favour of extending martial law and mobilisation in 13th vote
Screen in the Verkhovna Rada reads: "Draft bill No. 12151, summary of vote No. 4: 311 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstensions, 29 did not vote, 340 total. The bill has been adopted".
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Ukraine's Lawmakers Back Zelenskyy After Trump 'Dictator' Barbs
Ukraine's parliament, in a symbolic show of support, has approved a resolution reconfirming President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's legitimacy as the country's leader amid questions from the United States and Russia over his legal standing.
The resolution highlights tensions between Washington and Kyiv after U.S. President Donald Trump last week called Zelenskyy a "dictator without elections" for failing to hold a vote during wartime while also falsely accusing Kyiv of starting the war.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has also widely claimed there can't be peace talks with Ukraine because Zelenskyy is not the country's legitimate leader because his term was originally supposed to end in May 2024.
RFE/RL
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The 268 parliament members present on Tuesday voted unanimously in support of the Ukrainian president.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:22 am to doubleb
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I don’t think it’s s good idea. Not in the world we live in.
It's certainly going to require something else from the larger traditional powers. I can't imagine a situation in which nuclear proliferation isn't going to force a status quo in terms of alliances, as you can't have nuclear proliferation within alliances which can be dissolved. For Europe, the only way I can see it working is through a Federal Europe.
One interesting angle from the US's possibly receding from Europe would be what happens with Turkey. Turkey joining the EU has always been a contentious issue, and if they use their military power relative to the rest of Europe as leverage (i.e., take on larger roles in Eastern Europe) in order to gain ascension to the EU, that could spark either the dissolution of the EU or serious changes to how internal migration is handled, as the migration issue is one reason (among many) as to why Turkey has yet to receive EU membership.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:25 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:26 am to crazy4lsu
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For a long time, the US was explicit about limiting the number of countries with nukes. I guess we will see if the 'nuclear proliferation for everyone' is going to work out, but I think it will effects which will pose serious dilemmas for everyone.
Its not something I am excited about dealing with. Or more likely my kids or grandkids dealing with.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:27 am to doubleb
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Go read our exchange, you couldn’t rither. In fact you wrote s as short treatise on why you couldn’t.
Your question wasn't the same kind of question. I answered it in the best possible way while being accurate.
I simply asked you whether or not you personally believed something and you couldn't even give me a yes or no
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:28 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:33 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:36 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:47 am to VolSquatch
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Its not something I am excited about dealing with. Or more likely my kids or grandkids dealing with.
It's why I can't really agree with the US receding from its role internationally. At least with the US, you had a vision of what the US wanted the world to look like. In a multi-polar world, that is far less clear and far worse for everything that's needed for capitalism to thrive (mainly the freedom to move capital internationally where it is most efficient). The effects of the Wolfowitz Doctrine and the Bush Doctrine have been devastating.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:00 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:01 am to John Barron
So Biden stsrted the war 28 years should?
lol
Why waste your time?
lol
Why waste your time?
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:14 am to crazy4lsu
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It's why I can't really agree with the US receding from its role internationally. At least with the US, you had a vision of what the US wanted the world to look like. In a multi-polar world, that is far less clear and far worse for everything that's needed for capitalism to thrive (mainly the freedom to move capital internationally where it is most efficient). The effects of the Wolfowitz Doctrine and the Bush Doctrine have been devastating.
I think an optimistic view is that even if we step down as the 'world police', we have had mixed results in that role anyway. The countries that would actually go into the arms of Russia (or more likely China) were probably countries that already didn't listen to us or "fall in line" anyway, or are already headed in that direction. And even if they occasionally did, it wasn't reliably so.
I think what will end up happening is that we end up in a new version of things that already exist, with some more favorable terms for the US (at least on the surface) similar to Trump term 1 when he "renegotiated" trade deals that were more or less the same thing we had before.
Everyone loves to focus on Europe, I think largely for nostalgic reasons if not for the fact that there is the war going on, but I'm more curious to see how the B, I, and S in BRICS respond to the deck shuffling than I am how a largely neutered Britain or France does.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:19 am to VolSquatch
Everyone is watching Ukraine, but what is going on in Asia? Korea, China, Japan and Taiwan are all wondering what’s next?
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:21 am to Coeur du Tigre
You are a leftist nitwit
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:26 am to doubleb
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Everyone is watching Ukraine, but what is going on in Asia? Korea, China, Japan and Taiwan are all wondering what’s next?
I have the feeling they are shitting themselves but I don't know for sure. I certainly can't predict what the admin will do next.
Would it really shock you if there was talk about trading Taiwan for Greenland or the Panama Canal? bullshite talk or not.
I just hope all of these threats and chaos comes together into some brilliant plan.
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