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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:10 am to Chromdome35
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:10 am to Chromdome35
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I'm not saying they won't expel them eventually, but a superpower that cant crush a small incursion into their country isn't a superpower is it?
If we had to get S Korean soldiers to help us throw out an incursion from Canada, how would that go over?
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:11 am to doubleb
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Zekensky would be an idiot if he didn’t solicit help from the West.
Of course he would be.
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They should have used their own instead of begging daddy Uncle Sam for them, then
Why?
Because I don't think they are a country worth/worthy of our help?
Think I made it pretty clear from the beginning that if I were in charge I wouldn't have sent them anything that wasn't purchased from us, either by them or Europe. I just don't value them as a country at all, and I don't buy into zero-sum game geopolitics.
However since that isn't the reality we live in, my position currently is to resolve it as quickly as possible and if we can get something out of it, great.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:16 am to John Barron
Thank you for backing up my post by posting the exact same metrics.
You keep posting the video and claiming we shouldn't look at GDP but instead look at PPP, that russia is outproducing NATO 3 to 1, but without clarifying that the speaker in the video is talking about a very focused area of manufacturing, not the entire economies of NATO. That makes your repeated posting of this very dishonest.
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Your statement with your repost...
So dishonest...
You keep posting the video and claiming we shouldn't look at GDP but instead look at PPP, that russia is outproducing NATO 3 to 1, but without clarifying that the speaker in the video is talking about a very focused area of manufacturing, not the entire economies of NATO. That makes your repeated posting of this very dishonest.
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Your statement with your repost...
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I always find statements like this funny. It's kind of hard to take seriously when NATO Secretary General said Russia produces more in 3 months than all of NATO does in a year. So if Russia is terrible what does that make us?
So dishonest...
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:16 am to doubleb
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Yes Russia is winning, but it hasn’t been very easy.
It never was going to be easy. They are fighting against 300 billion plus of NATO equipment and arms. NATO intelligence and planning since 2014. They are basically fighting against NATO without the soldiers. You thought that was going to be easy? This is actually embarrassing for NATO. This should of been over for Russia after 2 years when you include the Sanctions. I am surprised Russia has performed this well.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:25 am to Chromdome35
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talking about a very focused area of manufacturing
Rutte is talking about Russia outproducing NATO in Armor and Ammunition in the Video
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but instead look at PPP
The PPP addresses a totally different point that you made that Russia's economy is small. It's not...Its the #4 ranked Economy in the World in terms of PPP. Do you actually think Russia could fight a 3 year War against all of NATO with a small economy?
I am addressing 2 different points made by 2 different posters. Not combining the two points...Thats what you did. Can you chew gum and walk at the same time? Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:29 am to John Barron
Zelensky looks totally Dejected for any of you NAFO Fellas trying to spin this
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The PPP addresses a totally different point that you made that Russia's economy is small. It's not...Its the #4 ranked Economy in the World in terms of PPP. Do you actually think Russia could fight a 3 year War against all of NATO with a small economy? I am addressing 2 different points made by 2 different posters. Not combining the two points...Thats what you did. Can you chew gum and walk at the same time?
You can try to spin it anyway you want, but you are fond of posting that video and saying Russia is out producing NATO 3 to 1 and we have to look at PPP.
Ok, we looked at PPP and Russia's PPP is tiny in comparison to NATO's. I don't care if it's the 4th largest in the world, so what, its still tiny compared to NATO which is what your post insinuated.
I can walk, chew gum, pat my head while rubbing my stomach, and do advanced math in my head at the same time.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:30 am to VolSquatch
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They should have used their own instead of begging daddy Uncle Sam for them, then
Why?
Because I don't think they are a country worth/worthy of our help?
I’m speaking from their perspective. They should have did just what they did, beg for help.
You say that we should have rejected their requests, that’s a different discussion. I’m just saying Z would have been a fool not to try and get help.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:32 am to John Barron
Why tf does he dress like Fidel Castro?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:34 am to John Barron
Jesus Christ. Zelensky looks like he is going to Cry. He really wants that War to continue. The Grift must carry on.
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:37 am to John Barron
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It never was going to be easy. They are fighting against 300 billion plus of NATO equipment and arms
If Ukraine burnt up 300 billion dollars in arms they hit ftom NATO, how many billions of dollars in arms did Rusdia burn up? Three times more?
Rusdia had 8 years to scout Ukraine, plan their operation and invade Ukraine. This was long before consequential aid to Ukraine arrived. Russia with all their industrial might, their great Air Force, their navy, and their elite forces failed miserably to usd the time and the lack of initial support ftom the West to crush Ukraine.
There’s no doubt in my mind that Putin did not believe that he would be fighting in Kursk, and the Donbas in 2025.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:40 am to Chromdome35
You can't be this retarded Chrom. The Rutte Video was addressing CitizenK post which was talking about tanks
I posted the Rutte Video specifically addressing the post talking about tanks and industrial capacity. I posted the PPP graph addressing that Russia has a small economy. The only person trying to spin things is you. I suggest you read the post I am addressing so you don't confuse yourself.
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Russia does NOT have the industrial capacity it had as the USSR, in large because Ukraine is not part of it any longer with its tank factories
I posted the Rutte Video specifically addressing the post talking about tanks and industrial capacity. I posted the PPP graph addressing that Russia has a small economy. The only person trying to spin things is you. I suggest you read the post I am addressing so you don't confuse yourself.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:42 am to doubleb
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You say that we should have rejected their requests, that’s a different discussion. I’m just saying Z would have been a fool not to try and get help.
I mean I get it, but my point was more that if Ukraine had all these tank factories..... where are the tanks?
Just more CitizenK claims that don't make any sense if you think about them for any amount of time longer than it takes you to read it.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:42 am to John Barron
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Reports are not Reality. If this was the case Russia would be losing the War and the Ukraine counter offensive would have succeeded instead of failing badly.
BUT TWEDER IS THE TRUTH
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:43 am to doubleb
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This was long before consequential aid to Ukraine arrived.
Ukraine has been getting considerable aid from the US and other sources since 2014.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:46 am to John Barron
Its over. Putin is about to get everything
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Its over. Zelensky just fricked himself. What a fricking Moron
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Trump just looked like an idiot with a temper problem, not some skilled dealmaker...
compared to how he acts like he's had his nuts cut off whenever Putin is around, he looks like a jerk to the rest of the world.
But you MAGA types will insist he's a heroic figure, of course.
compared to how he acts like he's had his nuts cut off whenever Putin is around, he looks like a jerk to the rest of the world.
But you MAGA types will insist he's a heroic figure, of course.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:50 am to John Barron
Zelensky is a piece of shite.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:50 am to VolSquatch
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This was long before consequential aid to Ukraine arrived.
Ukraine has been getting considerable aid from the US and other sources since 2014.
Those were just blankets... Trump just said so.
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