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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:05 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:05 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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FIFY you absolute, total moron
You were a Biden voter. Explains your Ignorance and total incompetence.
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:13 pm to John Barron
"I mean sort of ya…
Waste fraud and abuse are being addressed, pointless conflicts could potentially be coming to an end (with a simple phone call), energy price could also potentially drop reviving Europes economies and improving general quality of life for not only Americans but other nations populations as well.
I don’t think any of it will last and there are a lot of “potentially’s” in that statement so we’ll see but this is already going better than the 4 years of Biden for sure."
Waste fraud and abuse are being addressed, pointless conflicts could potentially be coming to an end (with a simple phone call), energy price could also potentially drop reviving Europes economies and improving general quality of life for not only Americans but other nations populations as well.
I don’t think any of it will last and there are a lot of “potentially’s” in that statement so we’ll see but this is already going better than the 4 years of Biden for sure."
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:12 pm to John Barron
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:23 pm to John Barron
ISW Update Feb 24 2025
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Key Takeaways:
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine three years ago on February 24, 2022. Ukraine has not been defeated or destroyed but remains resilient and innovative in the face of this unjustified Russian aggression.
Russia has accumulated unsustainable personnel and vehicle losses in the last three years since Russia's full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022.
The United Nations (UN) General Assembly passed a Ukrainian- and European-backed resolution on February 24 commemorating the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine that recognized Russia as the aggressor in the war, called for a just peace in Ukraine, and supported Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Recent polling indicates that Russians are increasingly supportive of Russia continuing the war in Ukraine until it achieves complete Ukrainian capitulation but are simultaneously starting to feel the economic toll of the three years of Russia's war – casting doubt on Russian President Vladimir Putin's ability to continue to balance "butter and guns" at home in the medium- to long-term.
Russian President Vladimir Putin currently remains committed to continuing his war in Ukraine despite rising domestic political and economic pressure and has shown no indication that he is rethinking his determination to compel Ukraine to surrender.
Kremlin officials formally rejected the possibility of a ceasefire on any terms other than the complete capitulation of Ukraine and the West on February 24, further underscoring Russia's unwillingness to make compromises during future peace negotiations.
European leaders announced a series of new aid packages during their visit to Kyiv on February 24 for the third anniversary of the full-scale invasion on February 24.
Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and near Chasiv Yar, Pokrovsk, and Velyka Novosilka.
The Kremlin continues to use Muslim religious and cultural structures in Russia for military recruitment.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:29 pm to StormyMcMan
"He emphasized that Moscow stands ready and willing to negotiate with Ukraine, Europe or "any representatives who in good faith would like to help achieve peace."
"But we will stop hostilities only when these negotiations produce a firm and sustainable result that suits the Russian Federation," he said alongside his Turkish counterpart Hakan Fidan.
Among the proposals that might stymie progress on negotiations is the possibility of a European army of some 30,000 to patrol a buffer zone inside Ukraine. Moscow has consistently rejected that NATO troops would be present along the war-torn border.
Trump himself has shown interest in such a peacekeeping force, especially as US troops would not be part of it. Put Putin will likely fear this is just recipe for another potential future showdown.
In separate statements Monday, Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Monday charged Europe with obstructing good faith peace efforts.
"The Europeans continue on the path of a sanctions nosedive, on the path of conviction in the need to continue the war," Peskov said in reaction to the EU imposing a new round of sanctions on Moscow"
"But we will stop hostilities only when these negotiations produce a firm and sustainable result that suits the Russian Federation," he said alongside his Turkish counterpart Hakan Fidan.
Among the proposals that might stymie progress on negotiations is the possibility of a European army of some 30,000 to patrol a buffer zone inside Ukraine. Moscow has consistently rejected that NATO troops would be present along the war-torn border.
Trump himself has shown interest in such a peacekeeping force, especially as US troops would not be part of it. Put Putin will likely fear this is just recipe for another potential future showdown.
In separate statements Monday, Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Monday charged Europe with obstructing good faith peace efforts.
"The Europeans continue on the path of a sanctions nosedive, on the path of conviction in the need to continue the war," Peskov said in reaction to the EU imposing a new round of sanctions on Moscow"
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:47 pm to StormyMcMan
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Kremlin officials formally rejected the possibility of a ceasefire on any terms other than the complete capitulation of Ukraine
They aren't taking the carrot. I'd hoped that Trump's overtures was a chance for Putin to declare victory and let go of the wolf's ears. Doesn't seem so.
Putin's invasion of Ukraine is a case of aggression that can not be tolerated.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:05 pm to John Barron
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You were a Biden voter. Explains your Ignorance and total incompetence.
He is worried about the world his chilren will grow up in
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:43 am to VolSquatch
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Thanks for proving my point
The lack of a sense of humor is another tip off!
Posted on 2/25/25 at 4:19 am to Lee B
EU offers its own ‘win-win’ minerals deal to Ukraine
For those of us that think that Ukraine must have US weapons to win, let's look at who they're fighting. Putin is dependant on Iran and North Korea now for his armament needs. The Russians cannot replace their equipment losses and will never gain this capacity.
EU countries can beat that in spades right now. And as the full effect of Trump's demonstration that he's Putin's puppet is now reality, the EU has no problem with their constituencies in increasing military spending. Thanks Donnie. Just yesterday, German Chancellor Merz put forward a €200 billion defense spending plan (Plan Russen Werden Gefickt). He's not even in his coalition yet, so this tells us his priorities.
The Art of the Deal
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“The added value Europe offers is that we will never demand a deal that’s not mutually beneficial,” top official Stéphane Séjourné says.
quote:Here we go, it's not like this wasn't predictable. As the security component of the Trump offer is clearly non-existant, the EU can easily continue to supply security and take this deal out from under Shoe Shine Boy.
The European Union offered its own agreement on "critical materials" to Ukraine on Monday, just as U.S. President Donald Trump claimed Washington was close to inking a deal with Kyiv for the rights to its vast natural resources.
Europe's Commissioner for Industrial Strategy Stéphane Séjourné said he'd pitched the rival proposal to Ukrainian officials he met in Kyiv during a visit by the European Commission to mark the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion. "Twenty-one of the 30 critical materials Europe needs can be provided by Ukraine in a win-win partnership," Séjourné said, according to AFP. And he noted pointedly: "The added value Europe offers is that we will never demand a deal that's not mutually beneficial."
For those of us that think that Ukraine must have US weapons to win, let's look at who they're fighting. Putin is dependant on Iran and North Korea now for his armament needs. The Russians cannot replace their equipment losses and will never gain this capacity.
EU countries can beat that in spades right now. And as the full effect of Trump's demonstration that he's Putin's puppet is now reality, the EU has no problem with their constituencies in increasing military spending. Thanks Donnie. Just yesterday, German Chancellor Merz put forward a €200 billion defense spending plan (Plan Russen Werden Gefickt). He's not even in his coalition yet, so this tells us his priorities.
The Art of the Deal
Posted on 2/25/25 at 4:52 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 2/25/25 at 5:12 am to Lee B
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The lack of a sense of humor is another tip off!
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Natalka
@NatalkaKyiv
I’ve been blocking Russian bots for hours today. I noticed an interesting pattern which is clearly an algorithm.
If I reply to one of them about 20 responses (from supposedly Westerners) pop up within minutes and they basically say one of 4 things in different languages:
1) Zelensky is a dictator
2) Ukraine lost
3) Ukrainian supporters are getting paid
4) go to the front lines
So from now on I'm not engaging with them. All idiotic comments will be hidden and accounts that posted them will be blocked as soon as I see them.
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Yeah, the script is obsolete now. They should at least try to be funny or something.
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They are SO freaking boring now. They used to be fun to engage with when Russia still had the money to pay real people.
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Or had any real people left...
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:03 am to StormyMcMan
Radnom tweets
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It would put the US under the 2% NATO guideline
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??Poland will transfer new Starlink terminals to Ukraine.
Deputy Prime Minister Krzysztof Havkowski announced this.
As of the end of 2024, Poland has already transferred 24,400 terminals from SpaceX. Some were destroyed in the fighting.
Poland is officially lending Starlink to Ukraine to avoid tax and legal complications.
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??Ukraine will receive American weapons at least until 2026, — WSJ.
The Biden administration signed contracts with US defense companies for the supply of ammunition, air defense systems, vehicles and other equipment to Ukraine, which guarantees stable supplies for the coming years.
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Putin supports the idea of a 50% reduction in military spending by Russia, the US, and China, previously proposed by Trump
"We could agree with the United States; we are not opposed. I think the idea is good: the United States would reduce by 50 percent, and we would reduce by 50 percent, and then the People's Republic of China could join if it wishes. We believe the proposal is good and are ready for discussions on this matter," said the Russian dictator.
It would put the US under the 2% NATO guideline
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Kremlin denies Trump’s claim Putin ‘will accept’ European peacekeepers in Ukraine-Telegraph.
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?? A ceasefire in Ukraine could be reached "in the coming weeks," — Macron
Key statements:
??Any peace agreement "must not be a capitulation of Ukraine" and must be backed by "clear security guarantees" in the long term;
??He stated that he has already spoken with 30 European leaders and allies, and many of them are ready to be "part of such a deal—security guarantees in one form or another";
??Clarified that peacekeeping forces will not necessarily be stationed on the front line but will be deployed in locations specified by the agreement;
??Supported the conclusion of a mineral resources agreement between the US and Ukraine.
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The EU offered Ukraine its own minerals deal on Monday-Politico
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Serbian President Vucic has apologized to Russia and said that the country's delegation "mistakenly" supported a Western resolution on Ukraine at the UN General Assembly.
Yesterday, the United States voted against a UN resolution proposed by Ukraine condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine as “hostile” and an obstacle to negotiations on ending the war, Secretary Rubio said.
Serbia voted in favour.
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Peskov: "The US needs rare earth metals. Russia will be open to cooperation when the time comes"
"The Americans need rare earth metals; we have plenty of them, and we have our own plans for developing strategic resources. This opens up quite broad prospects for cooperation," said the Kremlin spokesperson.
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Türkiye’s Foreign Ministry reaffirmed support for Ukraine’s NATO membership today. Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan stated, “Ukrainians seek NATO membership not just for the title, but as a security guarantee for their country.”
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?? Ukraine will be able to fight at the current pace until summer even without US help, — WSJ.
According to the newspaper, Ukraine produces or finances 55% of its military equipment on its own, while the US provides 20% and Europe 25%.
The EU is currently preparing to compensate for a possible arms shortage in the event of a reduction in US support.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:46 am to John Barron
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You were a Biden voter.
Voted for Trump. Try again.
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Explains your Ignorance and total incompetence.
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John Barron
You know thyself well.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 6:50 am
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:01 am to Coeur du Tigre
It appears that Europe appears to be waking up. They should, Russia is moving West and their protector appears to be weak. The US is letting Putin dictate terms.
Hopefully there’s more to it and Trump will soon use the big stick and somehow get the peace.
Hopefully there’s more to it and Trump will soon use the big stick and somehow get the peace.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:06 am to Coeur du Tigre
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The European Union offered its own agreement on "critical materials" to Ukraine on Monday, just as U.S. President Donald Trump claimed Washington was close to inking a deal with Kyiv for the rights to its vast natural resources.
TV becomes reality. Now we have an episode of Shark Tank. I wonder if China jumps in next?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:09 am to doubleb
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Russia is moving West
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:16 am to VolSquatch
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Russia is moving West
Whether it's true or not, Europe believes it's true. And they believe the US will not protect them when it happens.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:24 am to OleVaught14
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Europe believes it's true
Europe is *saying* they believe its true.
I'm sure some actually do. I highly doubt most actually believe it though. Its essentially just marketing it as a possibility to buy and sell more weapons and so they can signal to voters that they are "doing something about Russia". Your average voter in Europe probably is (wrongly) concerned about it, but half of your average voters are below average intelligence.
Russia doesn't have the capability even if they have the motive. I think this conflict has made that clear.
Its also kind of ironic that we just HAD to have Ukraine in NATO according to some, but its not going to stop Russia from invading the rest of Europe? If not, what's the point of it?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:24 am to doubleb
Poroshenko shuts down doubts about Zelenskyy’s legitimacy, calls for unity
February 25, 2025, 06:06 AM
Opposition party European Solidarity recognizes the legitimacy of the government and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, its leader Petro Poroshenko said while speaking from the parliamentary podium on Feb. 25.
“Our political force has not questioned and does not question the legitimacy of the Ukrainian government, including the president,” Poroshenko said.
He called the need to reaffirm Zelenskyy’s legitimacy a “Putin narrative” and urged unity to strengthen Ukraine’s position in negotiations.
On Feb. 25, Ukraine’s parliament adopted a resolution in support of democracy, affirming that elections in the country cannot be held until the war ends.
The document states that claims about the alleged “illegitimacy” of Ukraine’s government are being spread by Russian propaganda to distract from the illegitimacy of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.
The resolution emphasized that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s mandate is not in question among the Ukrainian people or parliament.
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February 25, 2025, 06:06 AM
Opposition party European Solidarity recognizes the legitimacy of the government and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, its leader Petro Poroshenko said while speaking from the parliamentary podium on Feb. 25.
“Our political force has not questioned and does not question the legitimacy of the Ukrainian government, including the president,” Poroshenko said.
He called the need to reaffirm Zelenskyy’s legitimacy a “Putin narrative” and urged unity to strengthen Ukraine’s position in negotiations.
On Feb. 25, Ukraine’s parliament adopted a resolution in support of democracy, affirming that elections in the country cannot be held until the war ends.
The document states that claims about the alleged “illegitimacy” of Ukraine’s government are being spread by Russian propaganda to distract from the illegitimacy of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.
The resolution emphasized that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s mandate is not in question among the Ukrainian people or parliament.
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:28 am to OleVaught14
Keith and Cope are binge posting their propaganda and lies. They have became panicked and further unhinged. They are pumping out more propaganda than the Bagdad Bob of Kiev. The lunatic Keith is posting as much as JB.now. The only positive to having GOP Tiger (General Bill) around here was he kept Lunatic Keith in line somewhat.
Cringe.
Cringe.
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