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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:41 pm to
Great. Europe can handle Europe's business.

I'm all for Ukraine "winning" as long as we're not pouring money into their fight.

If Germany steps up and helps Ukraine beat the evil bully Putin, good for them. It's not our fight anymore.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:53 pm to
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President Trump: "I will be meeting with President Zelenskyy. In fact he may come in this week or next week to sign the agreement."


If you listen to that quote you will realize it can be interpreted different ways. The "may" is a loaded word. "May" could actually refer to the signing of the agreement not the coming in next week.

It's how Trump speaks. He's riffing, just improvising like he's talking to the bar tender at the turn.

It's pointless to cheer or boo anything until the pen hits the paper.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:01 pm to
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That doesn't sound like complaining to you?


Stating facts is not complaining. On the other hand constantly crying saying posters are paid Russian shills for having a different opinion is 100% crying and complaining
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Great. Europe can handle Europe's business.

I'm all for Ukraine "winning" as long as we're not pouring money into their fight.

If Germany steps up and helps Ukraine beat the evil bully Putin, good for them. It's not our fight anymore.


It's not as if the sitting US Vice President and... whatever the hell they want to call Musk this week did not directly interject themselves into the German election to try to get a result that would've been advantageous to Putin or anything...

We're not staying out of Europe's business... we're trying to tip it to Putin!
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:03 pm to
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It's pointless to cheer or boo anything until the pen hits the paper.


I agree with that.
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:06 pm to
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quote:
It's pointless to cheer or boo anything until the pen hits the paper.


I agree with that.



Will that be reflected in your posting habits?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:12 pm to
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Will that be reflected in your posting habits?


Are you insane That clip was posted in response to you cheering about the minerals deal not being signed. If you NAFO trolls would stay in line there would be no need for me to correct you
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:13 pm to
It does seem as if Europe is ready to continue to support Ukraine in fighting Russia.

Will Trump just quit trying to stop the War?

He can cut off US support (or fight with Congress about that)... but he'd have to let the sanctions continue and not reestablish economic relations with Russia or he'd be choosing a side instead of being neutral.

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:18 pm to
Wow... war refugees? That's certainly unprecedented in human history!!!
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:57 pm to
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Exactly what is Zelensky supposed to receive in exchange for signing the mineral deal with the US?

Weapons, ammo?
US protection?
Good?
Cash?


Maybe we make a deal with Russia, we stop shipping weapons and when they finish with Ukraine we split the minerals?????
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Maybe we make a deal with Russia, we stop shipping weapons and when they finish with Ukraine we split the minerals?????


Works for me. If Russia can give the US a better deal we take that one.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:05 pm to
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On the other hand constantly crying saying posters are paid Russian shills for having a different opinion is 100% crying and complaining


Geeze I wonder why anyone would think your account is a paid propaganda source. Don't think it's your opinion. There are plenty of other pro-Russian posters who don't get that accusation though. Wonder what it could be that sets you apart from all others?
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Maybe we make a deal with Russia, we stop shipping weapons and when they finish with Ukraine we split the minerals?????


Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:18 pm to
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A friend who's a Brit ex-pat here always tells me "you can't get a read on the rest of the world's politics using the US lens... I mean, Britain is a Socialist country, so even Tories like my Dad are to the left of the Democrats on most things."


You are quite correct, the far right in Europe is to the left of Democrats in the USA on social welfare matters
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:26 pm to
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There are plenty of other pro-Russian posters who don't get that accusation


BS. Sir Winston, Texag7,OMlandshark have all been accused of being Russian Shills. It's the exact behavior you see from NAFO trolls on Twitter. Just own it
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:29 pm to
hahahahaha!!!

Trump did not want the AfD to win!!! You guys were pulling for something Trump didn't want!!!

Or maybe he doesn't understand or pay attention to much of anything and tries to spin everything as a win for himself...

and I guess he did not listen to Merz's victory speech.

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