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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:11 pm to
Putin holds elections in Crimea and Donbas yet zelensky wont. Wait for it, because the constitution he put in place says he "cant". Well aint that convenient.

Trump exaggerates about the 4% popularity, but I guarantee you zelensky would be voted out if an election was held. He knows it, thats why he wont call it.

When he got wind of the fact that was a condition of the talks he "suddenly isnt allowed to attend".

What a joke, a dictator, but a joke.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:14 pm to
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But that is where this is going. I can’t imagine being a politician in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan and Australia and not thinking “we need to get our own nukes”


This is the correct answer.

I bet the Japanese are already at work.


Politico - 4/22/24: Poland: We’re ready to host nuclear weapons
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:16 pm to
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Since this thread is off the rails completely now. I hope to God China doesn’t move on Taiwan while Trump is in office.


FoxNews 2/3/23: China's Xi has ordered military to be ready for Taiwan invasion by 2027, CIA Director Burns says
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21123 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:17 pm to
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Your ilk

People who can spot a blatant falsehood? Do you really believe the Ukraine loon actually fired shots at trump, like you stated?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:21 pm to
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I'm so glad you guys are embracing a pro-Hamas Democratic Socialist like Tulsi!

This is going to be great!
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:35 pm to
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Does he have a realistic choice?


I don’t think he has a choice one way or the other.

I think trump’s end game is immutable irrespective of zelensky’s response.


He may as well tell trump to suck his dick on live tv. It won’t change the outcome.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Two of the biggest NAFO trolls in this thread "Here is some info from my Ukrainian Tinder Girl Sources"

WeeWee: checking out


1. WTF is NAFO.

2. I am only checking out because nothing is happening except between the same loser posters and between Trump and Zelensky.

3. Do you have a life outside of sucking Russia off?

4. Tell your mother I said hi.

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I will give WeeWee some credit. At least he left with some dignity and did not have a mental breakdown like GOP_TIGER.


That is because unlike GOP_Tiger I realize that Trump blows hot and cold (he was literally threatening NK with nuclear war and then announcing a summit in the same week during his first term), I am a Trump supporter and voter, and most importantly I take breaks from retards like you.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:05 pm to
Lol the Ukraine grift is almost over. Thank God. MAGA
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:38 pm to
Natural gas in Europe at the main trading up is 70% of what it was this time in 2022 before the full scale invasion.
Posted by Hog Zealot
On the Flats
Member since Mar 2012
1784 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:46 pm to
NAFO stands for North Atlantic Fella Organization. An online group “dedicated to fighting Russian disinformation”. They sell really gay merch to raise funds. NAFO

Hundreds on X. There is at least one Fella in this thread. There is another who glows pretty brightly. There are a couple of contrarian trolls who make their jobs tougher. Enjoy the circle jerk.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:19 pm to
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Hundreds on X. There is at least one Fella in this thread. There is another who glows pretty brightly. There are a couple of contrarian trolls who make their jobs tougher. Enjoy the circle jerk.


No thanks. I got better things to do (like John Barron’s fat whore of a mother) with my time.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:22 pm to
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NAFO stands for North Atlantic Fella Organization


He knows what it is. His mother is a founding member


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Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:30 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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17101 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:41 pm to
President Trump doubles down on his 'dictator' post re: Zelenskyy from earlier:

TRUMP: "He refuses elections...Somebody said, oh no, his polls are good. Give me a break. Every city is being demolished... A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move faster. He's not going to have a country left. Gotta move. Gotta move fast because that war is going in the wrong direction. In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia. Something all admit that only Trump is going to be able to do in the Trump administration? We're going to be able to do it. I think Putin even admitted that Biden never tried. Europe has failed to bring peace, and Zelensky probably wants to. Maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going. I don't know what's the problem, but he hasn't been able."


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Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:59 pm to
ISW Update Feb 19 2025

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Key Takeaways:

Russian President Vladimir Putin is reportedly trying to optimize the Russian negotiations delegation to be most effective with the specific individuals whom the United States chooses for its negotiation delegation, likely in an effort to extract maximum concessions from the United States.

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Adviser Michael Waltz reiterated on February 18 that US President Donald Trump's position that the war in Ukraine must end in a way that is "fair, enduring, sustainable, and acceptable to all parties involved" remains unchanged.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated on February 19 that Ukraine needs either NATO membership or a strong military and security guarantees for a sustainable peace.

US Special Representative for Russia and Ukraine Keith Kellogg arrived in Kyiv on February 19 for his first official visit to Ukraine.

Ukrainian forces continue to conduct drone strikes against Russian energy facilities supplying the Russian military.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk and Toretsk, and Russian forces recently advanced near Borova, Siversk, Pokrovsk, Kurakhove, and Velyka Novosilka.

Russian federal subjects are reportedly halting their recruitment of foreigners who do not speak Russian for service in the Russian military.


Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:16 pm to
European defense industry stocks surging as transatlantic alliance shifts precariously

February 19, 2025, 05:22 PM

Europe’s defense contractors are experiencing a sharp increase in stock valuations, with investors expecting a surge in EU regional security investment, Reuters reported on Feb. 19.

The likely rearmament drive is presaged by the United States signaling a pivot away from Europe and key European leaders announcing defense spending boosts.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen proposed exempting defense expenditures from EU budget constraints, allowing countries to increase funding without risking deficit-related regulatory penalties. Experts believe defense assets will retain growth potential in light of these decisions, EU’s combined military expenditures are expected to rise by 30% in short order.

Meanwhile, shares of U.S. defense companies are falling, after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the Pentagon to cut its annual budget by 8% each year, for the next five years.

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