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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:56 pm to
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I tried to tell them. But they wouldn't listen.


The TWAT changed the word from could to will. FAKE NEWS. Try looking things up before buying this fake news peddler
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:58 pm to
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MIC stocks, some fundraising grift/scam?


MIC earnings actually aren't that great. Just not so risky. Invest in Google or Apple and make a lot more money.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Few people know this.


Howard K Smith, Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather led the charge.


The truth of the severity of the war had been kept from the American public.

The Tet Offensive, while it was a triumph for US troops, revealed the size and tenacity of the opposition, and the casualties hinted that a lot more troops were needed... and American citizens concluded it wasn't worth it...
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:32 pm to
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Wanna see a pic of my Bugatti?


I just closed on my new vineyard!


I'm right next to Zelensky's vineyard in Tuscany. Nice chap... does funny impressions...
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:39 pm to
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Uh, you do know the KGB isn't a thing anymore, right?

FSB might be the initials you are looking for


Oh, like a Bruce Jenner/Kaitlyn Jenner difference?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:45 pm to
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1% of the income taxes that I pay is alot more than $10. I would like to know where it’s going because it damn sure isn’t making it to the frontlines in Ukraine.


Look at the chart... 1% of the federal budget, not your personal income taxes, is for "International affairs" which covers USAID (though isn't USAID funded by a lot of corporate initiatives, too?)...

What you seem to be referencing would fall under "defense spending" or "other."

You can find what percentages of your taxes go to here:

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/interactive-data/taxday/
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:47 pm to
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Nothing you’ve posted since this thread was created has ended up being correct.


If that's true I'm exactly like you.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:51 pm to
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but Russia is sure to lose. Would you consider Russia keeping the Ukrainian land they occupy more of a Russian loss or a Ukrainian loss? Because that’s probably what will happen.


Well seeing how it was a 3 day SMO to conquer Ukraine and it turned into a 3 year war and Ukraine will still be independent after its over. I’m going to say that there are no winners and Russia is the bigger loser.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:15 am to
Daddy is going to impose peace amongst our fellow Chrisrians
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:23 am to
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The funding has supported rebuilding schools, financing bomb shelters, and equipping hospitals with advanced medical equipment.


They left out the part about USAID paying for Z-Man's luxurious Italian villa and vineyard.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:52 am to
Ukraine's little counteroffensive in Kursk this week is having success. Basically, with Kim's decision to temporarily pull back his Nork troops, there was less pressure on the front and Ukraine took advantage.

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Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:19 am to
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impose peace amongst our fellow Chrisrians


Does that include the North Korean mercenaries, the Muslim conscripts, the Chechens, the Iranian drones, and the Syrian volunteers?

Or does that just include the 27% of the Russian army that's actually Christian?

Do all the rest of them keep on fighting?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13312 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:31 am to
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Would you consider Russia keeping the Ukrainian land they occupy more of a Russian loss or a Ukrainian loss? Because that’s probably what will happen.


There were only three possible outcomes here:

1) Russia conquers Ukraine, deposes the government, and turns it into Belarus. That was Putin's objective and the only scenario by which he wins.

2) Russia fights until exhaustion and collapse, leading to the break up of the country, provinces splitting off, China grabbing Siberia, total chaos and instability, etc. That's what Trump wants to avoid. Basically saving Russia from itself. Because if this thing goes on another 2-3 years that will happen.

3) Both sides agree to a cease fire. The international community will never recognize the Donbas as part of Russia (it was seized by force so that cannot be recognized under the UN charter regardless of what treaties are signed etc). So it becomes a frozen conflict with 1 million armed men from both sides staring at each other across a No Man's Land, waiting for the inevitable resumption of hostilities.

So at this point #1 is out. Russia had its shot and failed. So that leaves #2 and #3 as the only possibilities. No one wants #2. So everyone is lining up for #3. Which both sides will call a win. But which truly is a loss for the entire civilized world. Literally no net gain for anyone.

And it's not over and will probably not be over in our lifetimes.

That's what Putin has started. He started something he couldn't finish. That will be his legacy. Just like Iraq will be Bush's legacy.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:46 am to
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The Tet Offensive, while it was a triumph for US troops, revealed the size and tenacity of the opposition, and the casualties hinted that a lot more troops were needed... and American citizens concluded it wasn't worth it...


Actually the Viet Cong had almost been destroyed and the war was left to N Vietnam regulars.

The Tet was a military disaster for Commies, but a huge propaganda success.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:50 am to
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The funding has supported rebuilding schools, financing bomb shelters, and equipping hospitals with advanced medical equipment. They left out the part about USAID paying for Z-Man's luxurious Italian villa and vineyard.


Evidence to back up that claim. Put up or shut up.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:54 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
07 February 2025

In January 2025, Russia's territorial advances in Ukraine slowed as they took approximately 320 sq km, compared with approximately 400 sq km in December 2024. Russia seized control of the stronghold of Velyka Novosilka, but advances along most of the frontline have been relatively minor. Through 2024, Russian advances had been accelerating, with over 700 sq km taken in November 2024, one of the quickest rates of advance since the early stages of the conflict.

In Russia's Kursk oblast, Russia made minor advances in January 2025. North Korean (DPRK) units which had been deployed on offensive combat operations in Kursk Oblast have temporarily withdrawn from frontline positions, likely to rest and refit before redeploying. This is almost certainly primarily due to heavy losses sustained during attacks against Ukrainian-held positions.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:03 am to
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3) Both sides agree to a cease fire. The international community will never recognize the Donbas as part of Russia (it was seized by force so that cannot be recognized under the UN charter regardless of what treaties are signed etc). So it becomes a frozen conflict with 1 million armed men from both sides staring at each other across a No Man's Land, waiting for the inevitable resumption of hostilities.


That is the most likely scenario. A European version of the Korean War.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:29 am to
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Actually the Viet Cong had almost been destroyed and the war was left to N Vietnam regulars.


If Nixon had stuck to his guns and not halted the invasion of Cambodia before cutting the Ho Chi Minn trail then the war would have been over by 1970.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:44 am to
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They left out the part about USAID paying for Z-Man's luxurious Italian villa and vineyard.


THIS IS WHAT THE POLIBOARD ACTUALLY BELIEVES!!!
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3569 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:55 am to
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I’m going to say that there are no winners and Russia is the bigger loser.


IMO.. This is a great and important observation... at the moment, both are losers.. its just that Russia seems to be at a greater loss than Ukraine..

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