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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:00 pm to
"The head of the Union of Employers of the Metallurgical and Electrical Industry of Germany Gesamtmetall, Stefan Wolf, bluntly stated that the absence of the Nord Stream led to an outflow of investment and business from the EU:"



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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Cheap Russian gas stopped flowing to Germany in 2022


I agree that Putin has weaponized energy in order to try and keep the EU from supporting Ukraine.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:07 pm to
'It was caused by the United States' destruction of Nordstream."

Make up your mind, one day its the US, next its Ukraine. Putin boys need to get their stories straight.
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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:14 pm to
You seemed confused. Everyone knew we blew up Nordstream. And everyone predicted German industry would collapse because of it including German officials in 2022

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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Everyone knew we blew up Nordstream


You must not follow this thread closely. Both Russia and Ukraine have been implicated for various reasons.

Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:27 pm to
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You are making my point. Regardless of the reason... Cheap Russian gas stopped flowing to Germany in 2022 and their Energy Intensive Manufacturing Industry collapsed which lines up with this chart.


The point is that Nordstream did not supply feedstock for manufacturing.

You just now made the point that Russians are inept at proper conditioning of natural gas to remove hydrates at the field. They crashed the compressors with hydrates, aka chunks of ice in the natural gas going to them.


You know zero about manufacturing, face that fact. Mercedes are built in Tuscalousa. BASF makes its chemicals and catalysts in the USA not Germany, though it did make some in Germany and was hanging on by a thread already.

Cost of manufacturing is far less in the US than Germany and even Russia.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:28 pm to
Aaron Mate is just a far leftist socialist idiot. He knows zero about anything else and is bought and paid for by your lord and savior, Putin.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:36 pm to
The head of the German Federation of Trade Unions is not Aaron Mate. His name is Yasmin Fahimi


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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:48 pm to
We have something like three pages in a row on Germany. Can y'all please just start a separate thread about Germany, if you really care that much? Jeez.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Both Russia


Yes, if you had been paying attention you would know that there are some who believe it was a false flag. I believe it was mentioned in this thread at some point. here is the case that was made for it being a false flag op...

In April 2023, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius cautioned against making premature accusations as to whom was behind the attack, suggesting that the alleged Ukrainian use of the 50-foot-sailing Yacht Andromeda might be a false flag operation.[124]

In July 2023, RTL and n-tv reported that Andromeda, believed by German investigators to have played a role in the sabotage, had been rented by a company owned by a named woman originally from Uzbekistan, who holds a Russian and a Ukrainian passport, who is registered to an address in Kerch on the Russia annexed peninsula Crimea and who in June 2023 was posting to social media from Krasnodar in Russia. Commenting on these findings, member of the German Bundestag Roderich Kiesewetter said "Russia was involved in this attack".[125]

In September 2023, Andreas Umland, analyst at the Stockholm Centre for Eastern European Studies, argued that the Andromeda was most likely a false flag created by Russia to implicate Ukraine. Umland argued that Russia may have attempted "to kill two birds with one stone" and not only avoid that Gazprom should pay compensation for undelivered gas, but also to threaten the support from allies to Ukraine in its defense against the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[126] Umland further argued that Ukraine had no interest in sabotaging the already "dead" pipelines, since Ukraine had other priorities with a war in their country. According to Umland, Russia had the strongest motives for the sabotage. Further, Umland saw a pattern in Russia's behavior, because after Russian-controlled forces had shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, Russia tried to frame Ukraine for this crime as well.[127]
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:25 pm to
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know that there are some who 


Are retards. Nobody believes Russia blew up their own pipeline. Especially after Biden told you we would blow it up. This is on the Ghost of Kyiv level so I know not to take you seriously


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:11 pm to
Now you're just repeating your own posts from 5.5 hours ago. Clicked on dude's profile, was not shocked to find this on his website.

Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:21 pm to
Endlessly posting the same embedded crap is spam... it isn't convincing anyone just because you post it 12 times.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:26 pm to
Looks like a Large Missile strike in Ukraine is happening

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Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 1:10 am to
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Looks like a Large Missile strike in Ukraine is happening


and my heart goes out to the innocents in the nursing homes and daycare centers being targeted
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