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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:44 pm to
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wonder how much trouble Putins Government would be in if American tax payer money disappeared? These people are alive and able to post sarcastic arse videos, where they talk down to Americans because of our money and weapons. Without America this war would have been over long ago. Without America NATO is nothing, and nobody gives a shite about the weak fricks known as the EU. The thought of America is stronger than these European countries that pretend to be strong, while these countries are actively destroying themselves.


Without our funding and technology provided in the 1990's and into the 2000's, Russia would be broke and in pieces. Yes, that is what happened.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
26469 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:52 pm to
Ukraine's FPV Drones Slash Russian Lancet Attacks, Reducing Strikes by 90%

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Russian Lancet drone attacks, which were once a key weapon for targeting Ukrainian artillery and other military assets, have dropped sharply in recent months, largely due to Ukraine’s growing use of FPV interceptor drones, as reported by Forbes.

These interceptors are not targeting Lancets directly but are instead taking out the ZALA reconnaissance drones that guide them, disrupting the network of surveillance and communication that makes Lancet strikes effective.


https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraines-fpv-drones-slash-russian-lancet-attacks-reducing-strikes-by-90-3977
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:02 pm to
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united24media


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united24media is a fundraising media account launched by President Zelensky of Ukraine in 2022
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:55 pm to
ISW Update Nov 25th

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Key Takeaways:

Russian forces continue to make significant tactical advances in western Donetsk Oblast and are coming closer to enveloping Velyka Novosilka and advancing towards important Ukrainian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) supplying the rest of western Donetsk Oblast and running into eastern Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia oblasts.

Russian advances in western Donetsk Oblast may become operationally significant if the Russian command properly exploits these recent tactical successes, which is not a given. Russian advances in western Donetsk Oblast do not automatically portend the collapse of the Ukrainian frontline.

Ukrainian forces struck a Russian oil depot in Kaluga Oblast and an airbase in Kursk Oblast on the night of November 24 to 25.

Ukrainian military officials continue to warn of potential Russian ground operations against Zaporizhzhia City, though the timeline and scale of this offensive operation remain unclear due to the operational constraints imposed by ongoing Russian operations in Kursk and Donetsk oblasts.

North Korea is reportedly expanding a key weapons facility likely used to supply Russia with ballistic missiles.

The Kremlin signaled that it would remove the Taliban from its list of prohibited organizations amid intensified Russia-Taliban rapprochement.

Russian forces recently advanced in southwestern Toretsk and south and southeast of Pokrovsk.

Russian command posts are reportedly relying on Chinese-made radios for internal communications because Russia cannot domestically produce enough quality radios for the Russian military.


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:57 am to
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All that talk was regarding Germany.
No "all that talk was about" German reunification.

Reunification under a NATO flag involved USSR concessions. Had the USSR opposed reunification, it is likely that the effort could have been undercut. At the least, Germany would have remained divided longer, and the transition out of the Cold War would have been far more contentious, potentially even destabilizing Europe.

Diplomacy is a tit-for-tat enterprise.
What did the USSR receive for their concession?
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:22 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 5:24 am to
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There were no talks about the itinerary curtain countries or Ukraine
???the itinerary curtain countries???

Regardless, you jumped the shark in claiming there were no talks.
OF COURSE there were talks.
You know better than that.

What you meant is there was no written agreement, accord or treaty. But there most certainly were talks, and an understanding.

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And NATO still isn’t close to admitting Ukraine.
That is simply not concordant with statements emanating from Washington and Kyiv in 2021 during the run-up to war.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:09 am to
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Currency devaluation is a problem for both countries

Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:17 am to
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Russian forces continue to make significant tactical advances in western Donetsk Oblast and are coming closer to enveloping Velyka Novosilka and advancing towards important Ukrainian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) supplying the rest of western Donetsk Oblast and running into eastern Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhia oblasts.

Russian advances in western Donetsk Oblast may become operationally significant if the Russian command properly exploits these recent tactical successes, which is not a given. Russian advances in western Donetsk Oblast do not automatically portend the collapse of the Ukrainian frontline.


This seems a bit more pessimistic than what ISW was stating not that long ago
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:28 am to
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do not automatically portend the collapse of the Ukrainian frontline.
Let's hope not.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to
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Currency devaluation is a problem for both countries


Sure. But just curious why you showed rub to uah instead of usd to uah?

FWIW it does appear that the UAH is performing worse over the war than the RUB. But that's probably more to do with Ukraine intrest rates being at 13% vs 21% in Russia. Also with countries have roughly the same current inflation rate with Russia expected to be slightly higher (not by much) in terms of 2024 average.

Not really saying this means too much of anything other than it's interesting that the invader and invadee appear to have similar problems on that front
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:31 am to
The current situation for Ukraine in the south is very bad and getting worse. There's no sugarcoating it.

Ukraine is paying a high price in the south for its determination to hold on to Kursk, a price that is clearly unjustified from a strictly military perspective. Ukraine's hope, of course, is that it's worth it in political value: holding Russian territory when Trump takes office may force Russia to negotiate something other than "frozen lines."
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:01 am to
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that the invader and invadee appear to have similar problems on that front
That was the point. Neither Russia nor Ukraine is a winner here.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:23 am to
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Diplomacy is a tit-for-tat enterprise. What did the USSR receive for their concession?


Since they had no leverage to bargain with, I doubt they got much; nor should they have.

Reagan was driving them into bankruptcy. They couldn’t keep up their empire.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:02 am to
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Russian Lancet drone attacks, which were once a key weapon for targeting Ukrainian artillery and other military assets, have dropped sharply in recent months, largely due to Ukraine’s growing use of FPV interceptor drones, as reported by Forbes.


graphic from the Forbes article...



Frequency of Lancet strikes recorded by Russian site Lostarmour showing a sharp fall after the interceptor campaign
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:22 am to
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Since they had no leverage to bargain with
False premise. Leverage was laid out in the post you're responding to, which you either did not read, or did not understand.
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Reagan was driving them into bankruptcy.
Reagan was not in office, hence the earlier reference to Bush/Baker.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:35 am to
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that the invader and invadee appear to have similar problems on that front
That was the point. Neither Russia nor Ukraine is a winner here.


True. However, a peace deal will be awfully hard to pull off when Russia is still demanding that Ukraine surrender and let Russia or Belarus conduct Ukraine's next presidential and parliamentary elections. The only way that I can see a peace deal happening is if Trump increases American O&G production and drives the price of oil and gas down which would finish off the Russian economy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:45 am to
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let Russia or Belarus conduct Ukraine's next presidential and parliamentary elections
Goodness, the irony is thicker than Joy Behar's skull.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:16 am to
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The only way that I can see a peace deal happening is if Trump increases American O&G production and drives the price of oil and gas down which would finish off the Russian economy.


The lower the price gets, the less drilling in the USA. Much of the oil production in the Utica, Permian, and Eagle Ford shale formations are getting around $40 per barrel, at the wellhead already. Pipelines don't like it due paraffin wax content. Refineries don't like it due less throughput capacity and not good for products making like asphalt and petcoke.

Tariffs on China will do much to bring the price down, if China slows buying like it has post Covid from pre Covid.

Trump got along with the Saudis a helluva lot better than Biden. That could do more to impact Russia.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:39 am to
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Reagan was not in office, hence the earlier reference to Bush/Baker.


Reagan orchestrated things, his VP and advisers were left to complete the policy. It was the Reagan foreign policy.
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