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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:52 pm to cypher
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:52 pm to cypher
Unless the refinery is new, this is only a tank farm from what I can find on Google Satellite view. It could be a fractionation column for pipeline transmix to be separated into refined product components
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:59 pm to NOLATiger163
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n this day and age, a 24k BPD refinery sounds pretty small. I've got to think that very, very little U.S. refined products come out of refineries of less than 100k BPD, and there seem to be a lot of 250k BPD refineries. Is the Russian petroleum industry operating on that much of a different scale / different economies of scale? That sounds pretty primitive, but maybe that just reflects my ignorance of the global petroleum industry.
Two other "refineries" are actually a condensate splitter at a natural gas liquids processing plant. Naptha (Pentanes +) have to be further refined to be useable in any fuel for engines capacity. That being said, an isomerization unit is at each, so they condensate can be turned into high "octane" gasoline. The "refinery" of this type at St. Petersburg also has a butamer unit to turn N Butane into Iso Butane. Iso Butane is feedstock for alkylation units, which use an acid catalyst to also make high "octane" gasoline. The catalyst being either HF or H2SO4.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:18 pm to CitizenK
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this is only a tank farm from what I can find on Google Satellite view
Google view not necessarily reality. Go look at Exxon BR on google satellite . Who place looks like a tank farm.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:36 pm to cypher
I suspect that Ukraine will be doing some serious work on anti-drone drones. I've seen some clips of drones that fly above other drones and drop a net on them. Others, with suicide drones to take out Russian surveillance drones.
I'm sure a lot of militaries will be doing the same.
I'm sure a lot of militaries will be doing the same.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:55 pm to tigeraddict
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Google view not necessarily reality. Go look at Exxon BR on google satellite . Who place looks like a tank farm.
I can see process units for actual refining at all of the other refineries hit by Ukraine. There is only a tank farm here. You obviously don't know what refining process units look like and just see a shitton of storage tanks
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:38 pm to CitizenK
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If tweet fails to load, click here. The Russians also crossed the Oskil about 15 miles north of Kupyansk
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:56 pm to CitizenK
Has Russia nuked Ukraine yet? Has WW3 started yet?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:05 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Russians also crossed the Oskil about 15 miles north of Kupyansk
It was 12 miles and they are currently engaged in a firefight to try and secure their beachhead.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:06 pm to Lima Whiskey
This is what 150,000-200,000 Russian casualties has gotten Putin this year.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:36 pm to WeeWee
quote:Why do you ask?
Has Russia nuked Ukraine yet? Has WW3 started yet?
Seriously, you're a bright fellow.
There must be a reason you'd ask.
What is it?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:41 pm to WeeWee
I remembered when Russia finally captured Bakmuth, and some predicted Russia would toll westward. Well they gained a few KMs but not much,
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:41 pm to WeeWee
quote:Makes one want to vomit when considering the Ukrainian casualties as well, and realizing this atrocity could have been completely avoided, or at least could have ended in April 2022. Doesn't it?
This is what 150,000-200,000 Russian casualties has gotten Putin this year.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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Makes one want to vomit when considering the Ukrainian casualties as well, and realizing this atrocity could have been completely avoided, or at least could have ended in April 2022. Doesn't
It could have been avoided in 2014, but Putin saw an opportunity snd took it. A weak POTUS, Ukraine in turmoil, and a plan already drawn up and Putin pounced.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:45 pm to doubleb
quote:This is a treacherous time for Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region. If they get cut off, it will be catastrophic. Let's hope they hold on against odds until negotiations resume.
I remembered when Russia finally captured Bakmuth, and some predicted Russia would toll westward. Well they gained a few KMs but not much
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:51 pm to doubleb
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but Putin saw an opportunity
You really have a fixation here.
Let me ask, if you were in charge of Russia in 2014, and the west had just overthrown a Russo-friendly Ukrainian government with the coincident promise of NATO inculcation in the offing, WTF would you have done re: old USSR naval bases in Crimea? Left them to NATO?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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This is a treacherous time for Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region. If they get cut off, it will be catastrophic. Let's hope they hold on against odds until negotiations resume.
It has me worried too, but so far Russian mobility had been really poor. They have to repeatedly attack fixed positions and use their advantage in numbers to advance. Hopefully, Ukraine can skillfully fall back to an advantageous line.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:55 pm to NC_Tigah
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Let me ask, if you were in charge of Russia in 2014, and the west had just overthrown a Russo-friendly Ukrainian government with the coincident promise of NATO inculcation in the offing, WTF would you have done re: old USSR naval bases in Crimea? Left them to NATO?
Didn’t Russia keep the old naval bases via a treaty?
If I were Putin I would have picked up the phone and spoke directly with Obama as to the NATO question. I don’t believe we ever intended to take them in, The EU was a real option, but NATO????
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:59 pm to doubleb
quote:That and inability to gain air superiority are, IMO, the two stunning surprises of this war.
Russian mobility had been really poor
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:08 pm to doubleb
quote:The Kharkiv Pact extended the Russian lease on Sevastopol naval facilities until 2042. In return, Ukraine received discounts on Russian natural gas.
Didn’t Russia keep the old naval bases via a treaty?
Kharkiv did not permanently cede the naval bases to Russia (hence the term "lease"). Nor was the agreement conducted with any understanding that said Russian lease payments would ever supply NATO.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:16 pm to Lima Whiskey
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