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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:30 am to doubleb
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:30 am to doubleb
quote:What a silly attempt at deflection. Let's try this again. Perhaps it will prove educational.
Obviously NATO is not a nothing burger ...
but NATO isn’t a significant military threat.
Cite one Russian military or political figure asserting, as per your exact words, that NATO in Ukraine or Georgia would not be "a significant military threat."
Because I can cite many who've publicly stated that NATO in Ukraine or Georgia would be perceived as, not only threatening, but would be considered an act of war ... just as was Soviet arming of Cuba.
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:46 am to Coeur du Tigre
Kupiansk remains under Ukrainian control as Russian forces fail to break through - General Staff
Russian forces have failed to breach Kupiansk, leaving the city under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Captain Andrii Kovaliov, spokesperson for the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, said this in a statement to Ukrinform.
"All attacks by the Russian occupiers in this sector were successfully repelled. The Russian invaders were unable to enter Kupiansk. The city remains under Ukrainian Armed Forces' control," he said.
"All enemy attacks in this sector have been successfully repelled. After launching unsuccessful attacks and suffering manpower losses, the Russian invaders did not attempt further assaults on the afternoon of November 13 or the morning of November 14," Kovaliov said, urging the public to rely on official reports from the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Overnight into Thursday, November 14, the DeepState analytical project reported potential Russian advances in eastern Ukraine, claiming that Russian forces had occupied Illinka and allegedly made an incursion into Kupiansk.
Ukrinform
Russian forces have failed to breach Kupiansk, leaving the city under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Captain Andrii Kovaliov, spokesperson for the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, said this in a statement to Ukrinform.
"All attacks by the Russian occupiers in this sector were successfully repelled. The Russian invaders were unable to enter Kupiansk. The city remains under Ukrainian Armed Forces' control," he said.
"All enemy attacks in this sector have been successfully repelled. After launching unsuccessful attacks and suffering manpower losses, the Russian invaders did not attempt further assaults on the afternoon of November 13 or the morning of November 14," Kovaliov said, urging the public to rely on official reports from the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Overnight into Thursday, November 14, the DeepState analytical project reported potential Russian advances in eastern Ukraine, claiming that Russian forces had occupied Illinka and allegedly made an incursion into Kupiansk.
Ukrinform
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:50 am to Lee B
quote:Right.
At the same time, attacking Ukraine is hardly the best way to achieve Moscow’s demands. It would strengthen Ukrainian public support to align with the west
We'll see how that works out in the end.
I guess it seems obvious to the Financial Times that the west could:
• Goad a Russo-Ukrainian War.
• Britain's PM could scuttle Peace Talks throwing Ukraine into a far more prolonged proxy war.
• A proxy war in which Ukrainians are used as fodder to "press Putin."
• All while the West provides just enough support to prolong the inevitable,
and yet the West will still appear to Ukrainians as a great ally when all is said and done.
Seems to me there might be a few bumps in the path to that outcome.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:26 am to NC_Tigah
Random tweets
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Why Ukraine won't make a nuke
it's a long thread
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The front north of Bakhmut is being reactivated. A new axis began to advance towards Siversk from the south.
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I don't think people truly know or understand the sheer scale of the short/medium term problems that are building up rapidly in the Russian economy right now.
1. Real inflation was 22.1% from September 2023-2024 and showing no signs of slowing down.
2. In week 45 the average Russian family paid 8826 Rubles on food and essential items.
3. Disposable income is down to 19% of total income in October 2024 down from 28.6% in 2023.
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Why Ukraine won't make a nuke
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The report was written by a think tank, not technical experts from the ukr gov't.
2. UKR has ~7 tons of reactor Pu, enough for several hundred simple-fission weapons.
3. The Pu is sitting in spent fuel. To use it, UKR would have to build a separation plant, which would take years and cost hundreds of billions.
First, some context. The document is just a report prepared by a think tank that will be presented at a conference. This very much stretches the definition of "news."
The paper claims that ???? has about 7 tons of Pu that would be enough for an arsenal of several hundred simple fission weapons like Fat Man, with reduced yields. No argument here. That's all correct.
In 2023, Ukraine had about 7.4 tons of Pu-239 sitting in 1,350 tons of spent fuel from the reactors it still controls and operates. Each year, Ukraine unloads ~40 tons of spent fuel, which would contain an additional ~200 kg of Pu-239
it's a long thread
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The situation of Ukrainian Army is much more difficult than it seems: Russian Army has completely broken through the eastern defences of Kurakhove. There were and are not enough troops to fill the trenches. Dalnye is about to be taken by the Russians. Meanwhile the Ukrainian retreat is accelerating in the southern salient. Combing operations in Antonivka are already taking place since the abandonment of the locality to the western defences. In addition, Russian forces are advancing easily north of Maksymivka and Bohoyavlenka. Troops are closer to Kostiantynopolske than to Uspenivka.
Most worryingly, the order to withdraw from Kurakhove has not yet been given, and withdrawal is becoming less feasible by the day. Only the urban area and the thermal power station offer a place of cover and entrenchment. However, from a military point of view, the Ukrainian fortress's days are numbered.
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The victory of Donald Trump in the elections in the USA prompts South Korea to reconsider the possibility of sending weapons directly to Ukraine, but there is no decision at the moment.
"It would be quite awkward for South Korea, which is not even a NATO member, to intervene at this point if Trump takes the White House and wants to withdraw from the conflict," said Kim Yoon, a professor of political science at the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul.
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"Germany will hand over the sixth of the planned IRIS-T air defense systems to Ukraine by the end of the year." - Zelenskyy after conversation with Chancellor Scholz.
The two leaders discussed the delivery of air defense systems next year and the prospects for additional air defense assistance from Germany. They also coordinated the steps "necessary to ensure the best defense and political support for Ukraine."
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Due to widespread complaints, authorities in the Kursk region have started issuing certificates for new housing to those who lost their homes in the fighting. However, only two certificates were issued, and the whole thing turned into a ridiculous publicity stunt with a video, typical of the Russian state.
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"Trump will not allow Russia to destroy Ukraine, at least out of respect for American taxpayers." - Polish President Andrzej Duda said at a press conference with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte.
According to him, since the beginning of the great war, the United States has provided "enormous funds, military equipment, and financial assistance." That is why Trump's duty is to make sure that this money is respected.
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:03 am to StormyMcMan
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I don't think people truly know or understand the sheer scale of the short/medium term problems that are building up rapidly in the Russian economy right now.
1. Real inflation was 22.1% from September 2023-2024 and showing no signs of slowing down.
2. In week 45 the average Russian family paid 8826 Rubles on food and essential items.
3. Disposable income is down to 19% of total income in October 2024 down from 28.6% in 2023.
So...like the US in the past 4 years?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:21 am to DMAN1968
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So...like the US in the past 4 years?
But unlike the US where voters can clean house and get rid of the problem.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:52 am to DMAN1968
Things aren't that bleak in the US.
Meanwhile, John Hellin just said on X that calling the situation for Ukraine anything but bleak is irresponsible. He seems to be a pretty straight shooter on the situation even though he is openly pro-Ukraine and not just someone attempting to appear unbiased.
Meanwhile, John Hellin just said on X that calling the situation for Ukraine anything but bleak is irresponsible. He seems to be a pretty straight shooter on the situation even though he is openly pro-Ukraine and not just someone attempting to appear unbiased.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:21 am to NC_Tigah
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just as was Soviet arming of Cuba.
Non Sequitur... Cuba was and still is "armed".. What line the Soviets crossed was Nuclear in nature..
Posted on 11/14/24 at 11:53 am to GOP_Tiger
sounds familiar...
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 1:46 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Counterpoint to the above article says that the Russian economy is in big trouble
I would argue that only being able to last for 3-5 more years qualifies as big trouble. The issue there is that is likely too long for Ukraine to hold out.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:10 pm to cypher
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Attention, Baltic States!
Russian propagandist Solovyev:
"Destroying the worthless statehood of the Baltic states is not a malicious plan. It is simply the liberation of lands that have nothing to do with these Nazi regimes and the restoration of the rights of Russian-speaking people. There is nothing malicious here."
The Baltic states want nothing to do with Russia other than sending arms to Ukraine and expelling as many Russians as they can. Like Ukraine, their independence is their cherished dream, but they already are NATO members.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:20 pm to Auburn1968
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The Baltic states want nothing to do with Russia other than sending arms to Ukraine and expelling as many Russians as they can. Like Ukraine, their independence is their cherished dream, but they already are NATO members.
Two of the Baltic States border Russia. That’s a huge threat to Moscow. Gotta invade.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:43 pm to doubleb
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The Baltic states want nothing to do with Russia other than sending arms to Ukraine and expelling as many Russians as they can. Like Ukraine, their independence is their cherished dream, but they already are NATO members.
Two of the Baltic States border Russia. That’s a huge threat to Moscow. Gotta invade.
Actually, Lithuania, the one that doesn't border Russia, is the one that is being threatened openly more and more by Russia because it wants a "land bridge" through it to Kaliningrad... The Lithuanians have blown up bridges and fortified roads on those routes in anticipation of an invasion through Belarus, already.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:05 pm to Lee B
Construction of 2 new power units underway at South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant
by Kateryna Hodunova November 14, 2024 9:54 PM
Preparations for the construction of two power units based on U.S. company Westinghouse's AR1000 technology are underway at the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant, according to the plant's Nov. 13 statement.
The South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant, the second largest of the country's five nuclear power stations, is located near the city of Pivdennoukrainsk in Mykolaiv Oblast.
Ukraine relies on nuclear power for more than half of its energy production, which is increasingly in demand amid Russia's attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure.
The nuclear power plant currently has three operating power units with a total capacity of 3,000 megawatts (MW).
Ukraine is also preparing to resume the construction of the previously abandoned Chyhyryn plant in Cherkasy Oblast, Ukraine's state nuclear energy operator said on Aug. 27. According to Energoatom, the plant will also be equipped with AP1000 reactors built by the U.S. company Westinghouse.
The members of the Chyhyryn City Council voted to permit Energoatom to resume the plant's construction. "The first steps have been taken," said Energoatom.
The Kyiv Independent
by Kateryna Hodunova November 14, 2024 9:54 PM
Preparations for the construction of two power units based on U.S. company Westinghouse's AR1000 technology are underway at the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant, according to the plant's Nov. 13 statement.
The South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant, the second largest of the country's five nuclear power stations, is located near the city of Pivdennoukrainsk in Mykolaiv Oblast.
Ukraine relies on nuclear power for more than half of its energy production, which is increasingly in demand amid Russia's attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure.
The nuclear power plant currently has three operating power units with a total capacity of 3,000 megawatts (MW).
Ukraine is also preparing to resume the construction of the previously abandoned Chyhyryn plant in Cherkasy Oblast, Ukraine's state nuclear energy operator said on Aug. 27. According to Energoatom, the plant will also be equipped with AP1000 reactors built by the U.S. company Westinghouse.
The members of the Chyhyryn City Council voted to permit Energoatom to resume the plant's construction. "The first steps have been taken," said Energoatom.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:09 pm to cypher
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Preparations for the construction of two power units based on U.S. company Westinghouse's AR1000 technology are underway at the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant, according to the plant's Nov. 13 statement.
Westinghouse nuke division was bought by Toshiba well over a decade ago.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:07 pm to Lee B
Indications are that Putin is going to outright reject Trump's peace overtures.
What comes next?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:08 pm to Auburn1968
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What comes next?
Trump has repeatedly stated that he'd give Ukraine more weapons than they could use
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:37 pm to CitizenK
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Trump has repeatedly stated that he'd give Ukraine more weapons than they could use
I support that and will be glad if it happens... do we have more weapons than they can use that they need? I thought there was a limited amount of missiles in our stocks.
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