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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:58 am to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:58 am to Lima Whiskey
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So even if Russia did take over the entire country they are stronger than they will be now but still weaker than they were before the war,
What make them weaker?
Its clear Ukraine wasn't a pushover even without western support. In a scenario where they take the entire country Russia still takes massive human and equipment casualties.
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 12:00 pm to VolSquatch
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Its clear Ukraine wasn't a pushover even without western support. In a scenario where they take the entire country Russia still takes massive human and equipment casualties.
Was the US Army stronger in 1861 or 1865, was it stronger in 1941 or 1945?
Posted on 10/8/24 at 12:30 pm to Lima Whiskey
For starters, Russia has no actual new weapons systems, and old ones going. Ukraine was given OLD weapons systems. Even Patriots were old models.
Both sides are learning quite a bit about the evolution of modern warfare.
Both sides are learning quite a bit about the evolution of modern warfare.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:08 pm to Lima Whiskey
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was it stronger in 1941 or 1945?
The difference is that at the end of WW2 we were making 50 tanks a day. One aircraft carrier per week. 20 bombers a day. 200 jeeps a day. Etc.
Russia started this war with tens of thousands of armored vehicles and tens of thousands of artillery tube's.
But it has lost somewhere between 60-70% of its hardware. And it's current production of those items is almost zero.
The only thing it can keep up the pace with is men, AKs, and bullets. It's losing ground in every other category.
So the comparison isn't valid. And you know it.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:41 pm to No Colors
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But it has lost somewhere between 60-70% of its hardware. And its current production of those items is almost zero.
If that was true, the Russians wouldn't be winning. They wouldn't have broken the Ukrainians. It's their dominance in artillery systems, and air power, which won the war for them.
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The only thing it can keep up the pace with is men, AKs, and bullets.
The Russians aren't fighting the war like the Chinese did in Korea. They're not overrunning the X Corps with human wave attacks.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Russian forces have reached the outskirts of the long-contested strategic town of Toretsk in eastern Ukraine.
The Ukrainian military confirmed that fighting was taking place in the town late on Monday. Torestsk is the latest key location that Russian troops have reached in recent weeks as they advance Moscow’s bid to take control of the Donetsk region.
Doesnt sound like much fighting, other articles say the ukes are in panic, taking hits all across the front.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:11 pm to trinidadtiger
There's movement all along the front, the Russians crossed the dry river bed and entered Kamianske two days ago.
They've also pushed through to the center of Toretsk, they've broken the Ukrainian position east of Seversk, and in north, they've cut the Ukranian position east of Oskol River into two pieces.
The area around Vulhedar is also problematic. The Ukranians will probably need to pull back to Kurakhove. There's also some risk that the Ukrainian forces on the other side of the reservoir there will get trapped in place by the Russians moving south.
There isn't any good news, Kursk continues to eat up their reinforcements, and all the trend lines will get worse as time goes on.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. They've also pushed through to the center of Toretsk, they've broken the Ukrainian position east of Seversk, and in north, they've cut the Ukranian position east of Oskol River into two pieces.
The area around Vulhedar is also problematic. The Ukranians will probably need to pull back to Kurakhove. There's also some risk that the Ukrainian forces on the other side of the reservoir there will get trapped in place by the Russians moving south.
There isn't any good news, Kursk continues to eat up their reinforcements, and all the trend lines will get worse as time goes on.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:11 pm to CitizenK
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Ukraine was given OLD weapons systems. Even Patriots were old models.
Okay, then where did the 200 billion go?????
And if you say it was to replace old weapons systems we had.......that would mean 200 billion of our 900 billion original budget was planned for those replacements.......so where did that 200 billion go???
Either way 200 billion ;has disappeared or was spent on weapons for ukraine.
And for the record, the "draw downs" we are getting from existing inventory is active inventory its not equipment rotting in the desert somewhere, its equipment that will have to be bought and replaced.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:25 pm to trinidadtiger
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Either way 200 billion ;has disappeared or was spent on weapons for ukraine.
You either have no idea how the DOD accounting system works. Or you do know, and you're being paid to spread misinformation. Either way, anyone with a shred of knowledge about this subject knows this is just a flat out lie.
And my guess is that you know it as well.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:27 pm to Lima Whiskey
I just dont understand the logic of zelensky. He is wasting precious resources and men fighting trees in the middle of nowhere to the north, shooting rockets for publicity stunts........and his poor troops are getting the dogshat beat out of them on the actual front.
Course silly me, I forget the objective is to fleece American taxpayers out of more money, not to actually defend your country.
Course silly me, I forget the objective is to fleece American taxpayers out of more money, not to actually defend your country.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:30 pm to cypher
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The average daily Russian casualties (killed and wounded) in Ukraine reached a new monthly war high during September 2024. The average daily loss rate was 1,271 per day compared to the previous monthly war high of 1,262 recorded in May 2024, according to Ukrainian General Staff reporting.
That’s a really big number considering the war was over months ago!!!!
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:42 pm to doubleb
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the war was over months ago!!!!
It's been over!!!!
And Russia has been winning for 2.5 years now.
And they've broken through!
The eastern front is collapsing!!!
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:01 pm to No Colors
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You either have no idea how the DOD accounting system works. Or you do know, and you're being paid to spread misinformation. Either way, anyone with a shred of knowledge about this subject knows this is just a flat out lie.
And my guess is that you know it as well.
Basically the equivalent of a two year old spoiled brat who wants his candy regardless of anything else. It's been explained plenty with backup. Just another politard who doesn't like truth
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:07 pm to No Colors
quote:I did at one time, when I worked for the DOD. But that was a while back. Perhaps things have changed?
You either have no idea how the DOD accounting system works
How does the DOD accounting system work?
Serious question.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:12 pm to doubleb
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That’s a really big number considering the war was over months ago!!!!
How many Ukrainians are killed each day?
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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How does the DOD accounting system work? Serious question.
This should be good
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:15 pm to texag7
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How many Ukrainians are killed each day?
Is this a trick question?
But if I had to answer, since the war ended months ago I would say none.
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:16 pm to doubleb
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Is this a trick question?
Less than claims made per day by politards
Posted on 10/8/24 at 5:31 pm to doubleb
quote:Goodness, how I wish you were right.
if I had to answer, since the war ended months ago I would say none
Posted on 10/8/24 at 7:11 pm to No Colors
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And my guess is that you know it as well.
No, he doesn't. He's really that stupid. He only has enough brain cells to poorly repeat Russian propaganda.
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