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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:24 am to
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:24 am to
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temporarily occupied Crimea


It can't currently be a realistic expectation that they will take this back.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:52 am to
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The main building of Putin's residence in Sochi was demolished.


Having trouble following the relevance of this..what am I missing?
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:57 am to
Wondered about this as well. Not surprising that Putin isn't going anywhere near Crimea.
Maybe the place is just falling apart?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:51 am to
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Having trouble following the relevance of this


Its relevant to the circle jerking some in this thread like to partake in, not really to the war
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:18 am to
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Wondered about this as well. Not surprising that Putin isn't going anywhere near Crimea.


It's further away from Crimea than where the Black Sea Fleet was moved to on the eastern shore of the Black Sea. Closer to Iran than the front in Ukraine.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 8:23 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:59 am to
Russia drops guided aerial bombs on Kherson, injuring 20 people

OLEKSANDR SHUMILIN — Monday, 7 October 2024, 15:57

Russian forces dropped guided aerial bombs on Kherson on the morning of 7 October, injuring twenty civilians, some of whom were taken to hospital.

Source: Oleksandr Prokudin, Head of Kherson Oblast Military Administration

Quote: "At around 10:30, Russian forces carried out an airstrike on Kherson. Four guided aerial bombs were dropped on the city.

Previously destroyed school and residential buildings were damaged in the Central district. As of now, there are reports of seventeen injured."

Details: Prokudin reported that two children were among the injured: a boy, 2, and a girl, 4. They were taken to the hospital with blast injuries and shrapnel wounds to their legs. Their condition is stable.

"Additionally, fourteen other people — six men and eight women — are currently receiving the necessary medical care in the hospital," he posted.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:14 pm to
It was demoed a year ago. And is under new construction apparently
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:44 pm to
ISW Update Oct 7th
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Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces struck an oil terminal in occupied Feodosia, Crimea on the night of October 6 to 7.

Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada Human Rights Commissioner Dmytro Lyubinets reported on October 7 that Ukrainian authorities are investigating another case of Russian forces' unjust abuse and execution of Ukrainian prisoners of war (POWs).

Russian authorities announced an "unprecedented" cyberattack against Russian state media infrastructure on October 7.

Russian forces recently advanced in northern Kharkiv Oblast, in Donetsk Oblast, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

 


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 6:28 am to
Random tweets

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North Korea may send its troops to Ukraine to help Russia, the head of South Korea's National Defence Ministry, Kim En-hyun, has said

Since Russia and North Korea have signed a mutual treaty similar to a military alliance, the possibility of such a deployment is very likely.

Earlier it became known that six DPRK officers, who came to exchange experience with the Russian military, were eliminated near Donetsk.

In addition, the South Korean military recorded signs of construction of a submarine with a nuclear propulsion system in the DPRK, reports Yonhap.

LINK

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#Russia demands from #Kyiv the withdrawal of the Ukrainian military from four partially occupied regions and #Ukraine's renunciation of its intentions to join #NATO - Lavrov

"Full withdrawal of the AFU from the "DPR", "LPR", Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions; recognition of the territorial realities enshrined in the Ukrainian Constitution; Ukraine's neutral, non-aligned, nuclear-free status; its demilitarisation and denazification; ensuring the rights, freedoms and interests of Russian-speaking citizens and lifting all sanctions against Russia," the Kremlin horse said.

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Feodosia oil terminal is still on fire

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The Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grushko stated that NATO is preparing for a military confrontation with Russia. According to him, the Alliance is "testing various logistical routes for troop deployment across the Atlantic, placing weapon stockpiles on the eastern flank, and deploying contingents. Military budgets are being inflated, and the economy is being militarized. In addition to confrontational rhetoric, NATO is continuously increasing the level of tension toward Russia."

He further added that Russian military planning should make it clear that attempting to speak to Moscow in the language of force is pointless. However, the reality is quite different — for the third year now, Ukraine has not only been resisting but also vividly demonstrating the place the so-called 'Russian Federation' is destined to occupy in the garbage heap of history.

LINK

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France will provide Ukraine with Mirage 2000 fighter jets.

This was announced by French Defense Minister Sébastien Lecornu, noting that the delivery is scheduled for the first quarter of 2025. The aircraft will be equipped with the latest equipment.

LINK

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Ukrainian-Russian war. Day 956:
Situation on Kursk front:
- At Korenevsky district #UkrainianArmy managed to recapture a series of positions west of Sverdlikovo & reentered in the farms of Pokrovskii. On the other hnad, #RussianArmy entered in the center of Liubimovka.

Situation on northern front:
- From Chuhuiv axis the battle for Vovchansk continue: two week after the recapture by Ukrainian Army the Russian flag was raised again in the Aggregate plant following Russian Army attack that started eight days ago.

Situation on northeastern front: #RussianArmy took full control over the locality of Stel'makhivka & made new advances north of Pishchane towards Pishchane.

Situation on Chasov Yar: #RussianArmy made new advances along Skrypnychenka & Osypenko streets in Zhovtnevyi district.

Situation southwest of Donetsk: #RussianArmy continued increasing the buffer zone north of Ugledar. In addition, Russian forces restarted the advances towards Velyka Novosilka taking control over the locality of Zolota Nyva.


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Cuba has sent a formal request to Russia to join BRICS, the director general for bilateral relations at the republic's foreign ministry, Carlos Pereira, has said.

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Head of the Belgorod region announced a record increase in one off-payments for new Russian recruits to 3 million rubles ($31,000).

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Ukraine has received ammunition for which Slovaks have raised more than €4 million, local media report.

In total, 70,000 Slovaks joined the collection, which began in April of this year. They donated more than €4 million when their government refused to join the Czech initiative to purchase ammunition.


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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:09 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38015 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 9:50 am to
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Russia obviously has all kinds of problems after this too and will for decades, but driving them into China’s arms is probably worse for the world long term than if they just quickly won this war for a country that doesn’t really matter anyway.


can you explain your thought process here? not criticizing, im legit trying to understand how russia being under china could be worse than current russia

i say that because China has their own economic problems

everything else i 100% agree with
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38015 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:02 am to
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The average daily Russian casualties (killed and wounded) in Ukraine reached a new monthly war high during September 2024. The average daily loss rate was 1,271 per day compared to the previous monthly war high of 1,262 recorded in May 2024, according to Ukrainian General Staff reporting. Since the start of the conflict Russia has likely suffered over 648,000 casualties.

The increase in the casualty rate since May 2024 is almost certainly due to the extension of the combat zone to include both Kharkiv and Kursk military operations, and increased intensity along the frontline. Russian forces highly likely continue to attempt to stretch Ukrainian forces by utilising mass to overwhelm defensive positions and achieve tactical gains.

Russia's casualty rate will likely continue to average above 1,000 a day for the rest of 2024 despite the onset of winter. To date winter conditions have not resulted in a reduction of offensive operations or attrition rates due to Russia's reliance on dismounted tactics and a lack of manoeuvre warfare, which requires better conditions.


these numbers are staggering to me. absolutely insane. 1200+ killed per day. They are losing more in a week then the US did in 20 years in afgan and iraq combined!!! That is nuts

what is even crazier is that in WW2, they averaged over 20x that per day.

Current daily loss is 6x that of what the US averaged in WW 1 & 2, and over 7x what the US averaged losing per day during Vietnam. Total loses for russia in Ukraine is literally over 10x what the US lost during the whole Vietnam war and 1.5 what the US lost in all of WW2.

Russia is currently losing as many in 2 days in Ukraine as the US lost during DDay


Death toll is staggering imo for both sides. Pray trump gets in and can end this bullshite
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:09 am to
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these numbers are staggering to me. absolutely insane. 1200+ killed per day


Read it again...

The average daily Russian casualties (killed and wounded) in Ukraine reached a new monthly war high during September 2024. The average daily loss rate was 1,271 per day compared to the previous monthly war high of 1,262 recorded in May 2024, according to Ukrainian General Staff reporting.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38015 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:12 am to
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Read it again...

The average daily Russian casualties (killed and wounded) in Ukraine reached a new monthly war high during September 2024. The average daily loss rate was 1,271 per day compared to the previous monthly war high of 1,262 recorded in May 2024, according to Ukrainian General Staff reporting.


oh damn my bad


still staggering the loss of life
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:08 am to
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can you explain your thought process here? not criticizing, im legit trying to understand how russia being under china could be worse than current russia

i say that because China has their own economic problems

everything else i 100% agree with


Russia before this conflict was strong enough to stand on its own legs economically + militarily. It bit off more than it could chew because I don't think they assumed Ukraine would do as well as they have or that western support would be as significant as it has been.

But despite being a powerful country, its blatantly obvious at this point that they were no real threat to NATO even before the invasion. So despite them being bad actors around the world in various areas, they weren't making anyone else a real threat and weren't a real threat themselves either.

Now they are dealing with an indefinite conclusion to this conflict, years of economic sanctions, military strikes on significant parts of their economy, a leader that I don't see lasting another 10 years and maybe not even 3-5 in his current role whether its him getting the boot or just being old, and a military that will need a significant rebuild after this is over all the while still likely dealing with long term sanctions, rebuilding their country, rebuilding whatever they end up keeping of Ukraine, and demographic problems. To me thats a recipe for at best a strong codependency on China if not Russia becoming outright subservient, which we don't want. We want them divided.

Without western help Ukraine maybe lasts, what, a year? Year and a half? The specifics don't really matter, but its less than they will in the current timeline with our help. So even if Russia did take over the entire country they are stronger than they will be now but still weaker than they were before the war, still not a real threat to anyone we actually care about, yet still strong enough to stand on their own legs.

Its not the most ethical way to operate geopolitically, but I think the world is probably a better place in 10-15 years this way than it will be in our timeline. OR instead of what Biden has been doing, holding back our good weapons and tech from Ukraine, give them the good shite from the beginning. By trickling out weapons and permissions like they have been they are just doing a worse version of what I laid out (let them kill themselves if they want to) that costs more lives and spends more dollars.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 11:57 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:10 am to
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still staggering the loss of life


and the Putin machine keeps grinding on
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38015 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:16 am to
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and the Putin machine keeps grinding on


not really. i mean he is still in charge but both sides are significantly weakened to say the least.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:33 am to
Nice post
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:50 am to
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and a military that will need a significant rebuild after this is over all


I think the rebuild has already happened, they've purged the leaders who didn't know what they were doing, and they've become a fully modern army in the way we understand it. No one has more combat experience than they do now. And with the way you wear through equipment, the average age of their hardware has decreased. What they have will be whatever their version of the latest and greatest is.

The war will have changed some of their design assumptions, the T-14 turret is probably too lightly armoured for example, and so you'll see new hardware over the next five to ten years, that's designed around their experience in Ukraine. But that's all reactive.

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So even if Russia did take over the entire country they are stronger than they will be now but still weaker than they were before the war,


What make them weaker?
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