re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Should Ukraine turn goats loose among the Chechens?

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Yes you can blame Russia for anything you like if you intend to.

Isw update Sept 20

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Key Takeaways:

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced two new loan mechanisms worth up to 45 billion euros (roughly $50 billion) and 35 billion euros (roughly $39 billion) respectively during a visit to Kyiv on September 20.

Russian authorities were reportedly aware of the threat of a future Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast in the months leading up to August 2024 but failed to take adequate steps to address such a threat.

These documents support ISW's recent assessment that Ukrainian forces achieved operational surprise during the incursion into Kursk Oblast despite Russian authorities' reported awareness of the possibility of an incursion.

Russian officials attempted to use a meeting with the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to legitimize Russia's occupation of Ukraine and promote false narratives about alleged Ukrainian human rights abuses.

Russian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk, Kreminna, Toretsk, and Pokrovsk, and Ukrainian forces recently regained lost positions in Vovchansk and Siversk.

Russian state media is increasingly emphasizing the participation of foreign nationals in the Russian war effort in Ukraine, likely to reassure domestic audiences that Russia continues to recruit sufficient manpower and will not need to declare another mobilization wave.

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There was no universe where Crimea wasn't Russian. That was an attempt at humiliation. The response was predictable by anyone with a higher than toddler level of logical cognition and a local newspaper in Odessa.

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There was no universe where Crimea wasn't Russian. That was an attempt at humiliation. The response was predictable by anyone with a higher than toddler level of logical cognition and a local newspaper in Odessa.

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During the vote to separate from the USSR, Crimea voted to leave, and it wasn't even close. Go play with the other ignorant politards

Rightttttt....

Ok

I see what we've got here.

Interesting.

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So we didn't agree to not push NATO into Ukraine when the Soviet Union collapsed and everyone was shitting bricks about Nuclear proliferation so they gave all the nukes to Russia?

Seems kinda relevant considering we lied and did it anyway.


The US actually held up application to join NATO for each of the former Warsaw Pact nations for several years. Keep buying what the nutbags are telling you after they get their talking points from the Kremlin. Russia never once voiced opposition of these applicants as being a threat to Russia.

There was no real want by Ukraine to join NATO until after Feb 2022.

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Yes, as we've discussed 378 times in this thread, Ukraine had some vague desire to join NATO, NATO was lukewarm at best... mainly because leftover Soviet corruption still plagued Ukraine, as well as it just seeming like a trouble spot.

The real threat to Putin was the Ukraine was set on joining the EU. Your average Ukrainian in the countryside already lives much better and more modern than you average Russian out in the countryside... and those countrysides are not that far apart. So if Ukraine's economy really prospered with EU membership, that really drives home to Russian peasants that Putin and the Oligarchs are stealing the riches in the country and not sending anything their way. Bad enough that you have Estonia (the most "online" country on earth), Latvia and Lithuania prospering right on the border, but they're small and it's explained away as the West just giving them money to fake being successful to try to make Russia look bad. If Ukraine and Georgia, places Russians are used to just driving to, explode with economic success, that reveals that the Russian system is rotten... and that foments an uprising by the people on the bottom and middle. Putin's biggest fear is a color revolution taking him out.

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Should Ukraine turn goats loose among the Chechens?

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poor fricking goats, man... and I knew it would involve Hezbollah fricking goats... I remember a bunch of video clips of the Taliban and ISIS being shot by snipers while they were fricking goats...

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what these LARPERs dont get that you and i understand is that NATO literally broke a treaty to not expand. people who act like Putin isnt within his rights are embarrasing

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I will give you $100 if you can provide a link to a treaty NATO signed with Russia not to expand. Please back your BS up.

You can’t because it never happened.

ETA: you dumbfricks come into this thread spew your uneducated bs. Then slink off for a while after you get owned, just like what you will do now that you have been called out. Yet you act like you have some great knowledge that no one else has when in fact you just out yourself as an ignorant dumbass.