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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/21/24 at 2:14 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 2:14 am to
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You can’t because it never happened.


FYI you got trolled.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:10 am to
Chrome, my man, WestCoastAg regularly does this satire where he makes the worst arguments of the Putin boys to mock them.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:12 am to
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CitizenK
Tikhoretsk provides the a great 4th of July type fireworks display with a muchroom cloud


Always nice to wake up to exploding Russian munitions.

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:31 am to
Reading up on Tikhoretsk, it seems to have been smaller than Toropets, and more of a distribution center than a long-term storage facility.

Tikhoretsk was expanded a few months ago to accommodate more North Korean ammo.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:35 am to
If I were Russian and lived anywhere near an ammunition storage facility, I am quite sure that I would move.

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UPDATE: Thousands of people have now been evacuated from the area.
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Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:10 am to
Holy cow. Ukraine also hit another ammo dump last night, the secondary ammo dump near Toropets (where the main facility was destroyed a day ago).

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This is going to force Russia to completely reimagine its logistics. It's equivalent to when we first gave HIMARS to Ukraine.

By the way, I'm seeing a lot of speculation that the Tikhoretsk strike was ATACMS. We shall see.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:18 am to
Luckily for Russia, they shot down all the drones last night. Imagine the damage if they hadn't.

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Last night, 101 aircraft-type UAVs were shot down over Russia.

Most of the drones — 53 units — were destroyed over the Bryansk region. Another 18 drones were shot down over the territory of the Krasnodar Territory, 16 — over the waters of the Sea of ??Azov, 5 — over the Kaluga region, 3 each over the Tver and Belgorod regions, one each over the Kursk and Smolensk regions, as well as over the territory of the Crimean Peninsula.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:32 am to
In a truer world, I'd have been born Russian rather than British.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:34 am to
Also last night:

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Molkino military base, home for former PMC Wagner is on fire in Krasnodar Krai of Russia.
Now it is a base for "African Corps"


I don't want to burden the page with too many embedded tweets, so for this one, you can click the link yourself if you want to see the burning HQ building:

LINK
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:37 am to
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Luckily for Russia, they shot down all the drones last night. Imagine the damage if they hadn't.


It wasn't the drones-it was the falling debris that caused the explosion.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:44 am to
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It wasn't the drones-it was the falling debris that caused the explosion.


We laugh, but this is not at all impossible when large amounts of ammo are stored out in the open, as seems to have been the case at both ammunition bases struck last night. There are satellite videos (just a few days old) showing hundreds of crates of ammo just open to the air.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:48 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:54 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:59 am to
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In a truer world, I'd have been born Russian rather than British.



Yeah, you could've grown up using a outhouse in the winter when the temperature is - 30 degrees in said outhouse. Wouldn't that have been awesome -- literally worried every day about your butt freezing to the seat?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:03 am to
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decent size explosion...



Yeah, that's from the Tikhoretsk strike. By the way, Tornado-S Smerch rockets from the ammo dump ended up hitting in the center of the city, over 4.5 miles away.

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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:11 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 21 September 2024

Overnight on 17/18 September 2024, Ukraine conducted a successful one-way attack (OWA) uncrewed aerial vehicle (UAV) strike on Toropets strategic ammunition depot in Russia's Tver region, approximately 500km from Ukraine. This depot is a storage site of the 107th Arsenal of the Russian Main Missile and Artillery Directorate, and almost certainly housed munitions of varying calibres for frontline use, as well as missiles and glide bombs used by nearby airfields. Ammunition procured from North Korea was also reportedly stored here.

Renovated in 2018, this is one of Russia's largest strategic ammunition depots directly supporting its operation in Ukraine, storing more than 30,000 tonnes of ordnance. Recent improvements to the site had been driven by previous poor storage of aging explosive material leading to a series of explosions across several depots. One such explosion in June 2011 in Pugachevo, Udmurtia, saw 3,000 homes damaged and 30,000 people evacuated.

The explosion at Toropets was recorded at 2.7 on the Richter scale, equivalent to a mild earthquake, with fires covering a 6 km-wide area. It is highly likely that poor storage of munitions, left vulnerable to OWA UAVS, caused a chain reaction of cascading detonations within the bunker system, resulting in enormous losses of ordnance. Russian air defence continues to struggle with Ukrainian deep strike operations, despite claiming to have intercepted more than 50 UAVs in this attack. Although part of a wider supply network, this loss will highly likely disrupt Russian ground operations, particularly in the Kursk region.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:14 am to
The Tikhoretsk strike may have yielded even more fruit -- there are large fires at the air base near Tikhoretsk. LINK



At this point, it's unknown whether the air base was also attacked, or whether the explosions from the ammo dump caused the fires at the air base.

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Tikhoretsk AB is the home to 627 Training Aviation Regiment used by the Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots. Sat photos from 28 April '24 shows that in addition to the usual complement of L-39C and DA-42T trainers, at least 10 Su-27s (or Su-35) were deployed there
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Low resolution Sentinel-2 sat imagery from 16 September 2024 shows up to 12 Su-27/Su-35 fighters present at the air base.


Photos at link.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:23 am to
Dachas generally have outhouses. That’s why the toilet figure is strange. They’re second houses and specifically summer house and it just doesn’t appear to be a big deal for ordinary people.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:25 am to
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The Tikhoretsk strike may have yielded even more fruit


If I read it correctly this strike was the first one (23rd Arsenal of GRAU) in the Defense Express article listing similar targets to Toropets.

Assessment of Other Key GRAU Arsenals As Big as in Toropets Within Ukraine's Reach



Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:05 am to
It was late and I was halfway through a fifth of whiskey. So if it was a troll I did fall for it; and apologize for calling West a dumbass. The sentiment still applies to the rest of the dumbasses.
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