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Posted on 6/17/24 at 6:34 pm to No Colors
Can you explain whether you’re illiterate or just a dishonest little bitch for misquoting me earlier and not owning up to it?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 7:31 pm to texag7
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Also, the only reason these nations are increasing spending is because Trump told them to.
I can't even with this stupid shite. Given he was two years out of office when it started you would have a better argument they increased spending because Biden told them too. It's also stupid but actually more supportable.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 7:37 pm to Auburn1968
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An Aussie drone killing system.
Good video. We are going to see that type of inexpensive drone protection systems mounted on just about everything that moves in the coming years.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 8:21 pm to Obtuse1
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg stated that NATO may take steps to enhance NATO's nuclear deterrence, eliciting varying responses from senior Kremlin officials.
Russian President Vladimir Putin dismissed four deputy defense ministers and replaced them with a “close relative,” the son of a former Russian prime minister, and an economist on June 17 in an ongoing purge of officials in the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).
Tsivileva's, Fradkov's, and Gornin’s appointments support Putin’s recent efforts to introduce his relatives and the children of other senior Russian officials to the Russian public and to install economic advisors to the MoD to improve the wartime economy.
Russian milbloggers largely focused on celebrating the dismissal of Pankov, Tsalikov, Shevtsova, and Popov and largely overlooked the apparent nepotism that benefited two of the new deputy defense ministers.
A Russian state media outlet manipulated an interview with International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi to blame Ukraine for strikes against the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) in an attempt to legitimize Russia's illegal occupation of Ukraine.
Ukraine's Western partners continue efforts to train more Ukrainian pilots on Western-provided F-16 fighter jets.
The Kremlin confirmed on June 17 that Russian President Vladimir Putin will visit North Korea on an official state visit on June 18 and 19.
Russian forces recently advanced near Siversk, Chasiv Yar, and Avdiivka.
Russia is reportedly experiencing issues with producing artillery shells and select artillery systems.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 8:28 pm to Obtuse1
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Good video. We are going to see that type of inexpensive drone protection systems mounted on just about everything that moves in the coming years.
In that vein, we got some interesting news a few days ago about the manufacturing and repair facility that Rheinmetall is setting up in Ukraine.
The initial announcement had been that it would manufacture Lynx IFVs. It's still going to do that, but the facility will also be putting Skyranger systems on old Leopard 1 hulls.
Perhaps there are a number of Leopard 1 tanks out there with bad turrets that still have good hulls. Maybe even Greece or Turkey would donate some.
In any case, it makes sense to send tanks into battle with a mechanically identical tracked vehicle (easy for maintenance and repair) that will shoot down all the drones that threaten the tanks.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 8:34 pm to StormyMcMan
How dare Ukraine shoot down our plane! We will be taking legal action! You literally can't make this stuff up
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How dare Ukraine shoot down our plane! We will be taking legal action! You literally can't make this stuff up
The hilarious part is that, until now, Russia claimed that the plane was accidentally downed by friendly fire.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:23 pm to VolSquatch
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Can you explain whether you’re illiterate or just a dishonest little bitch
Now now. Personal attacks don't give your argument any weight.
I can't even remember which of your arguments I was refuting?
The one where you claimed that the Russian unit wasn't really encircled?
Or the one where you think European countries are increasing defense spending, not because of Russia's invasion, but because Trump wanted them to?
Or where you said the 2022 surrender deal was the best Ukraine would ever get, all the while the terms are getting better?
Or the one where you think the west needs to let Putin have his way, because he has nukes, and because the next leader of Russia "might be worse"?
Or the one where you LOL when someone said that Russia had run war game simulations on invading parts of Europe (with a reminder that....Ukraine is part of Europe).
You seem to get flustered that I am not apologizing for calling you out on your bullshite. But whatever.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:29 pm to No Colors
His Ilk are already shitting themselves over Putin ''hitting Miami''. You just have to walk away. These types are in a cult.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:41 pm to cwil1
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His Ilk are already shitting themselves over Putin ''hitting Miami''. You just have to walk away. These types are in a cult.
With a salvage tug!
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:49 pm to TBoy
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This isn't driven by fear of Trump. Your premise is insane.
I don't know... I can see them thinking Trump might send troops to help Putin...
(Half-Sarcasm)
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Actually, it was just announced that 23 NATO members will hit the target this year, not 20.
I'm puzzled why anyone thinks that President Trump would try to pull us out of NATO. Trump's irritation with NATO was that European nations weren't meeting their obligations and paying their share, and that's no longer the case.
His irritation with NATO sought reasons to justify itself, according to the people who had to think up ways of delaying and distracting him not to try to get that ball rolling.
But most of you guys have much, much, much, much, much more faith in him than I do... so... whatevs
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:45 am to Lee B
Oh, this is very interesting. As I have said before, previous estimates have indicated that Russia was manufacturing about 20 new tanks per month, in addition to repairing and upgrading a similar number of older tanks.
We now have new evidence that Russia is making, at the very most, about 8 new tanks per month, and the likely number is only half that.
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The repair and upgrade number may be correct, but this still means that Russia is going to run out of tanks in the next 6-9 months. The math of losing 200 tanks per month while manufacturing 8 new ones has only worked so far because of how many tanks were in storage, but the storage depots are emptying out.
We now have new evidence that Russia is making, at the very most, about 8 new tanks per month, and the likely number is only half that.
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The repair and upgrade number may be correct, but this still means that Russia is going to run out of tanks in the next 6-9 months. The math of losing 200 tanks per month while manufacturing 8 new ones has only worked so far because of how many tanks were in storage, but the storage depots are emptying out.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:20 am to GOP_Tiger
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We now have new evidence that Russia is making, at the very most, about 8 new tanks per month, and the likely number is only half that.
As their storage depots, which really amount to boneyards, are emptied, the refurbishable tanks will become nil long before total number is nil.
Let's not forget that their vaunted T-34 rarely was able to travel more than 125 miles on its own before complete overhaul needed. Craftsmanship was never a thing for Russia. They lost something like 85% of all of them built to both mechanical failure and loss on the battlefield.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:46 am to CitizenK
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State border guards discovered five men in a boat sailing across the Tisza to Hungary.
The men paid dealers from 7 to 10 thousand dollars for the organization of the "crossing
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A court in Estonia sentenced an ex-professor of the University of Tartu to 6 years in prison
A court in Tallinn has sentenced former professor of the University of Tartu, Russian citizen Vyacheslav Morozov to 6 years and three months in prison, ERR reports citing the court's press service.
According to the court's version, Morozov collected information on domestic politics, defense and security policy of Estonia, as well as provided foreign intelligence information on the political situation in the country and its relations with the European Union.
According to the Director General of the Security Police, Morozov shared the collected information with representatives of the Russian intelligence services.
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Interesting analysis: The "overall output of T-90Ms amounts to at least 231 built and modernised since April 2020; but it could be as high as 267 if all batches included 15 tanks."
"This would suggest an increase in annual output from about 40 before February 2022 to a wartime output of 60–70 for 2023, with possibly even more to be produced over the course of 2024. Based on this pattern, the production rate from 2025 could be more than 90 annually."
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The main legal entity of the Swedish retailer H&M in Russia - H&M LLC - has started the process of liquidation of the company
Swedish H&M Hennes & Mauritz owns the Russian company. In 2022, the Swedish chain, which also owns the COS, Monki, & Other Stories, Arket and H&M Home brands, suspended sales in Russia and then closed all its Russian stores.
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Polish farmers have resolutely confronted illegal migrants in an unusual way
They decided to fill the border strip between #Poland and #Belarus with pig manure.
Polish farmers learned the idea from the Greeks, who a few years ago tried to stop refugees from the Middle East in this way.
Polish farmers also assume that most of the foreigners on the Polish-Belarusian border are Muslims who don't eat pork.
"We count on the fact that if we spread pig manure, illegal migrants will not pass through this strip because their faith will not allow them to do so," the farmers say.
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Hungary legalizes Ukrainians who cannot restore their passports during martial law - decree by Prime Minister Orban
Ukrainian citizens will be able to obtain a residence permit even with an expired passport during the state of emergency imposed in Hungary and within six months after its completion.
This norm does not apply to procedures for obtaining Hungarian citizenship.
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Italy will transfer Storm Shadow to Ukraine, Fatto Quotidiano newspaper with reference to sources.
The long-range missiles are to be part of Rome's next military aid package, along with the Samp-T air defense system, to be announced by the end of the month.
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The European Commission has set up an audit commission to oversee a €50 billion loan to Ukraine
The audit commission is designed to help Kyiv monitor the use of the aid provided, as well as to prevent fraud, corruption and conflicts of interest.
At least six meetings will be held annually to discuss the results of the audits and at least six visits to Kyiv.
The commission itself will be based in Brussels.
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Overnight, the AFU once again carried out a drone attack in the Rostov region.
At least five explosions and subsequent fire were recorded in the area of the Azov seaport and industrial zone.
Azovproduct CJSC, which produces methanol and Donterminal oil tanks are located nearby. As of 7 am, the total area of the fire was about five thousand square meters.
Over 200 employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and almost 40 units of equipment, as well as a fire train are involved in extinguishing the fire. According to preliminary data, there are no casualties, and no exceeding the maximum permissible concentrations of pollutants in the air.
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One signature has disappeared from the list of signatory countries of the summit on Ukraine in Switzerland
The signature of Rwanda has disappeared from the final communiqué. This country is no longer on the list of signatories on the website of the Swiss Foreign Ministry, although it was there yesterday.
Thus, the number of signatories is now 77
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Hurriyet: Turkish security services helped Russia prevent a second terrorist attack in Moscow after the Crocus attack
Turkish special services helped Russia to prevent another terrorist attack, which was planned in Moscow after the attack on the Crocus City Hall. This is reported by the Turkish edition Hurriyet.
According to the publication, members of the ISIS cell "Wilayat Khorasan" planned to attack the shopping center in Moscow, but the attack was prevented after Turkish intelligence contacted Moscow. Russian security forces did not report the thwarted terrorist attack.
Hurriyet writes that Turkish intelligence services have been monitoring Wilayat Khorasan's activities since the attack on St. Mary's Church in Istanbul in January 2024. During the investigation, Turkish security services questioned several people and then contacted the Russian side.
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putin will arrive in North Korea today to meet with Kim Jong-un, reports russian media.
One of the main goals of the visit, according to observers, will be to find ways to expand military ties between moscow and Pyongyang. In particular, the conclusion of agreements to increase the supply of North Korean shells and missiles to russia in exchange for the transfer of russian military technologies to the DPRK.
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Preparations are still underway in the North Korean Capital of Pyongyang for the Arrival later today of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is set to hold his First Official Visit to the Country in over 20 Years, where he will meet with Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un.
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:51 am to StormyMcMan
SBU drones hit Russian oil depots in Rostov Oblast, source says
by Martin Fornusek June 18, 2024 12:17 PM
Drones operated by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) hit two oil depots in Russia's Rostov Oblast overnight on June 18, a source in security and defense forces told the Kyiv Independent.
Russian authorities reported fires at several oil storage tanks in the Russian town of Azov in southwestern Rostov Oblast earlier the same day.
According to the source, the drone attack successfully targeted the oil depots Azovska and Azovnaftoprodukt, where 22 oil storage tanks were located. Powerful fires erupted following the reported attacks.
"The SBU will continue to implement 'drone sanctions' against the Russian oil refining complex and reduce the economic potential of the enemy, which provides the aggressor with resources for waging war against Ukraine," the source added.
The Kyiv Independent
by Martin Fornusek June 18, 2024 12:17 PM
Drones operated by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) hit two oil depots in Russia's Rostov Oblast overnight on June 18, a source in security and defense forces told the Kyiv Independent.
Russian authorities reported fires at several oil storage tanks in the Russian town of Azov in southwestern Rostov Oblast earlier the same day.
According to the source, the drone attack successfully targeted the oil depots Azovska and Azovnaftoprodukt, where 22 oil storage tanks were located. Powerful fires erupted following the reported attacks.
"The SBU will continue to implement 'drone sanctions' against the Russian oil refining complex and reduce the economic potential of the enemy, which provides the aggressor with resources for waging war against Ukraine," the source added.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:54 am to cypher
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 18 June 2024
Russian forces have likely taken control of the village of Novooleksandrivka, located approximately 20km north of Avdiivka, Donetsk oblast. The area has seen heavy fighting throughout 2024 and Russia has been gradually advancing since capturing Avdiivka in February 2024.
By taking control of Novooleksandrivka, Russiamoves closer to threatening the T-05-04 road, one of the main supply routes for Ukrainian forces further east. It is highly likely that the village of Vozdvyzhenka will be Russia's next objective as it seeks to sever the road and disrupt Ukrainian logistics.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 18 June 2024
Russian forces have likely taken control of the village of Novooleksandrivka, located approximately 20km north of Avdiivka, Donetsk oblast. The area has seen heavy fighting throughout 2024 and Russia has been gradually advancing since capturing Avdiivka in February 2024.
By taking control of Novooleksandrivka, Russiamoves closer to threatening the T-05-04 road, one of the main supply routes for Ukrainian forces further east. It is highly likely that the village of Vozdvyzhenka will be Russia's next objective as it seeks to sever the road and disrupt Ukrainian logistics.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:01 am to No Colors
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Or the one where you think European countries are increasing defense spending, not because of Russia's invasion, but because Trump wanted them to?
Find where I said that and link it, because I don't believe that. More dishonesty, attributing others comments to me because you don't actually have any coherent thoughts yourself.
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Or where you said the 2022 surrender deal was the best Ukraine would ever get, all the while the terms are getting better?
So Russia is negotiating now? But Putin won't ever negotiate? But the terms are better? Which is it?
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Or the one where you think the west needs to let Putin have his way, because he has nukes, and because the next leader of Russia "might be worse"?
Just because you take my comments a certain way doesn't mean that is what I'm saying. I think its obvious that you have to treat countries with nukes differently than you do ones without, and the proof is in the fact that the against a country like Iran the US is willing to go further in terms of direct action with our own weapons than we were (and still are in some ways) letting Ukraine go while using our weapons.
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Or the one where you LOL when someone said that Russia had run war game simulations on invading parts of Europe (with a reminder that....Ukraine is part of Europe).
I was LOLing at the prospect that he would, or was even capable, of invading Europe. Some of you bots rely on that argument still like it has any bearing.
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You seem to get flustered that I am not apologizing for calling you out on your bullshite. But whatever.
I think when you obviously misquote someone you should at the very least correct yourself. I don't want or expect an apology from dishonest people, its not worth anything anyway.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:03 am to cwil1
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His Ilk are already shitting themselves over Putin ''hitting Miami''. You just have to walk away. These types are in a cult.
Yes I am very worried about Russia hitting Miami
ETA: I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well. Below picture is a joke about the sub being there to watch the Panthers' Russian Goaltender in the Stanley Cup.
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