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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:06 pm to
But if you look at the flying times of those with zero load its about 20 min tops. Put any weight on it and its drastically reduced.

I know this because I'm doing very important work on how to stop the Union win at the battle of New Orleans. Me and my 6 Seal team members can only go thru the time machine with what we can hold off the ground for 30 seconds.

After I figure out what to carry, I'll figure out the time machine stuff.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:33 pm to
Media: Explosions reported across occupied Crimea

by Rachel Amran and The Kyiv Independent news desk May 23, 2024 11:39 PM

Editor's note: This is a developing story and is being updated.

Explosions were reported in Sevastopol, Yevpatoriia, and Alushta in occupied Crimea during the late hours of May 23, according to Suspilne Crimea.

At around 10:18 p.m., Suspilne reported hearing explosions in Yevpatoriia. By 10:30 p.m., passenger transport had been suspended in Sevastopol. A video later surfaced online presumably depicting an explosion in the Alushta district on the southern coast of Crimea. At least five explosions were reported in Alushta.

Within the hour, the Telegram channel Krym Realii announced that residents heard three explosions near the territory of the Belbek airfield in Sevastopol, as well as the work of air defense from Novofedorivka. A total of eight explosions were allegedly heard.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:43 pm to
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The problem from a Pentagon perspective is that, the defense contractors have corrupted the procurement process through bribery, and the contractors ultimate goal is to make money, whether the equipment works well, or is best suited to our needs, that’s not strictly relevant. It would be very difficult for someone to stop or revise a contract because circumstances have changed. There is an overwhelming incentive to do the opposite, do nothing, and not to rock the boat. But this isn’t unique, it’s normal. That’s why it’s important to fight frequently and test (in this case) your equipment in battle. You can buy and deploy a weapon system that doesn’t work. It happens fairly often. Look at the LCS, or the Defiant to use a very old example from the UK. In an actual war, that weapon system will get fixed or junked. In peacetime, that doesn’t necessarily happen.


Not necessarily the case. A friend is a lobbyist for a naval shipbuider.

The LCS typs hulls worked just fine in passenger/freight service in Australia for several years. They didn't work with combat type duties, even trials.

The defense industry was forced to consolidate beginning at the start of the Clinton Admin, and further decimated under Obama with munitions plant closures.

A lot of innovation occurs during a hot war due need. Every accountable military has observers in Ukraine, just like in every other hot war. France actually had a more modern and larger army than Germany, but it relied on a fixed line of defense and didn't account for "impenetrable" areas. Germany had developed combined arms offense. It was France's lack of communications which actually doomed it to defeat.

As far as Ukraine, it seems obvious that it is not that worried about the front collapsing with its continued strikes deep into Russia as vulnerable strategic targets and we only know about what both sides allow us to know about. There afe definitely sabotage ops going on deep inside Russia.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 4:44 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 5:11 pm to
FTR, open bidding doesn't mean lower cost/ better performance. We have definitely seen how bad large projects with major companies have gone since Sarbanes Oxley was passed. Negotiated with trusted entities with proven track records provides lower costs, better performance. Any jack leg with financing behind then can get a bond to bid on open projects. Additionally, subcontractors should be familiar with each other and the prime contractor enough for good communications. There are always change orders and these are best negotiated with give and take inside deals.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:03 pm to
This video has multiple shots of the type drone's they are using. These are all purpose built for their role. Not the same stuff you are buying at bestbuy.

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:04 pm to
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Winston Churchill is rolling in his fricking grave.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:25 pm to
So Vovchansk has not fallen? Trinidadtiger is probably madder than Nick Saban after a fumble right about now.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:29 pm to
Kennard runs a nutbag far leftist Greta Thornburg website.

Your sources are shite sources, always have been.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:32 pm to
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So Vovchansk has not fallen? Trinidadtiger is probably madder than Nick Saban after a fumble right about now.

More like a combined Saban, Woody Hayes and Bobby Knight throwing a giant tantrum
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
907 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:33 pm to
Lol, so a few nazis in the battalion makes it a ''neo-nazi'' batallion? You know how many nazis are in certain US millitary units? Does that make that unit a nazi unit?
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:34 pm to
Or we bring back old school AA guns. I don't see why the current CRAM can't be used to shoot drones down.
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This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 6:35 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:37 pm to
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Or we bring back old school AA guns. I don't see why the current CRAM can't be used to shoot drones down.


Quad 50 cals work wonders
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:45 pm to
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Not sure what to make of this:


Me either.


PBS:Reagan used Iran hostage crisis for Election gain

Of course, just one hostage (there are others, there) that America has forgotten about if they ever knew isn't quite as big of a deal...
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:58 pm to
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I know this because I'm doing very important work on how to stop the Union win at the battle of New Orleans


you're on the wrong side.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:37 pm to
John Conyers speaking in 2015

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Foreign Policy magazine has characterized the 1,000-man Azov Battalion as ``openly neo-Nazi'' and ``fascist.'' Numerous other news organizations, including The New York Times, The Guardian, and the Associated Press have corroborated the dominance of White supremacist and anti-Semitic views within the group; yet Ukraine's Interior Minister recently announced the Azov Battalion will be among the units to receive training and arms from Western allies, including the United States.

Azov's founder, Andriy Biletsky, organized the neo-Nazi group the Social-National Assembly in 2008. Azov men use neo-Nazi symbolism on their banner.

These groups run counter to American values, and once the fighting ends, they pose a significant threat to the Ukrainian Government and to the Ukrainian people. As we have seen many times, most notably within the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, these groups will not lay down their arms once the conflict is over. They will turn their arms against their own people in order to enforce their hateful views.

I urge the support of my amendment and to make it U.S. law that we will not equip this dangerous neo-Nazi militia.


This was the status quo opinion in Washington at the time. DC looked the other way when the war started, because these people became useful.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted by sta4ever
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:41 pm to
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John Conyers


I wonder what he says about the Civil War, Confederate Flag, and Southern sympathizers?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:12 pm to
There’s video of 8 ATACMS being fired off at once so if there were 8 explosions heard there’s a very good chance every single one got through Russian air defenses which means that their constant assault on Crimean air defenses is bearing significant fruit. It was pretty evident from the launch that 2 M270 launchers were used to launch 4 ATACMS as they flew almost side by side and were on the same course. Then you had 4 separate launches from HIMARS on 2 different courses, 2 missiles each. I wonder just how many ATACMS we really had in inventory because it’s obviously a lot higher than was first reported. The original rumor was we gave the Ukrainians 100 ATACMS of different variants but they obviously have much more than that if they are confident launching off salvos of anywhere from 2-10 missiles at a time.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:13 pm to
I wonder if Conyer’s believed we should have allied ourselves with Stalin to defeat Germany?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20428 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:28 pm to
The original Azov crew were dangerous and nasty people. Even for Eastern Europe. But I wouldn't take their ideology seriously. They were funded by a Jewish gangster/oligarch.

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I wonder what he says about the Civil War, Confederate Flag, and Southern sympathizers?


Conyers was probably posturing for donors.

As far as the South goes, I don't know. I guess I don't care what outsiders think of the South. They're not us.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 8:32 pm
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