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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:51 am to
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The US Treasury Department allowed transactions with russian banks for calculations in the energy sector.

According to the license issued by the US department, the ban on operations is lifted until November 1, 2024.

In the decree, the ministry explained that transactions related to the extraction, production, processing, liquefaction, transportation or purchase of oil and other energy resources, including liquefied natural gas, wood, coal and uranium, will be considered energy-related.


Interesting that of these listed banks and major investments of them

Vnesheconombank - Copper mining and Potash
Sovcombank - Leader for Sustainability and ESG in Russia
Sberbank - The largest in Russia and extensive ops in former Warsaw Pact nations. It's sold most of its holdings there but still sanctioned by Switzerland and even UAE. Not China.
VTB - government owned and teetered on insolvency more than once since 1990.
Alfa-Bank - part of the Russia Hoax against Trump Also strategic partner of Gazprom
Rosbank - primary stockholder is Interos heavily invested in mining and energy sectors among others. Formerly controlled by French Societe Generale which sold to Interos a under 30 cents on the dollar.
Bank Zenit - General services for retail and commercial with high value clients .
St. Petersburg Joint Public Stock Bank - a large reginal bank, general banking.

That's all I could see that was pertinent to these.

I'll have to ask my Russian friend, former finance director at Gazprom who will know more. Though I'm not sure if he is in the USA or helping Russian capital escape Putin still and somewhere not sanctioning Russian investors.

Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8118 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:56 am to
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It was a major loss for Russia; however, a year later Russia appears to have recovered.

It took Russia 8+ months of Ukraine facing sustained ammo shortages to make progress. This can't be stressed enough, especially since it still cost Russia a ton of armor/soldiers to make progress.

This seems like a pivotal point of the war. Russia is all-in to exploit Ukrainian weakness. We all pretty much agree that Ukraine is unlikely to expel Russia from its territory, so whatever it loses is lost unless the Russian army collapses.

On the other hand, if Russia can't exploit this moment ... man, they're in trouble.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11094 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:02 am to
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On the other hand, if Russia can't exploit this moment ... man, they're in trouble.

The Spring Defensive?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9746 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:03 am to
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On the other hand, if Russia can't exploit this moment ... man, they're in trouble.


It continues to be stressed to me by actual Russians with in depth knowledge of its economy (and very likely money laundering in London) how much Putin has wrecked its economy.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9746 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:08 am to
For the record, Russia is unable to meet its own gasoline and diesel needs. We are exporting crude oil from the USA so the idea that the Biden Admin is concerned about prices at the pump is misplaced. This will have zero affect on that at all.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2379 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:08 am to
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On the other hand, if Russia can't exploit this moment ... man, they're in trouble.



The problem is how we grade the results of each side. Are we giving the "every day Ukraine exists is a success" type grades? Are we saying "Russia is being stymied by a country it should be crushing"? Are we going to say "Russia is essentially fighting the US and Western Europe by proxy?".

I don't know what a good answer is. I'm just saying that the measure of what is and is not a success for either side are goalposts that are constantly moving and changed by (and sometimes devoid of) any and all context.

Regardless of our differences in opinions many of us here are fairly well informed, just by different sources. Even those of us who generally agree on whichever side of the aid issue we are on can't even agree on the motivations and goals of Russia. I know many disagree with me, but from the outset I thought Russia would be happy with the "disputed" Eastern provinces and Crimea.... others insist Putin wants all of Ukraine... others insist he wants to reunite the old USSR, and others still insist he wants to march through Europe. And even if we did agree, goals can change and be fluid based on situations and opportunities.

We can't even agree on what victory looks like on the Ukraine side. Is it "not an inch of soil will be lost" still? I doubt that's feasible now, or that it ever was.

I know they won't be made public for strategic reasons, but it seems like the west doesn't have clear operational goals for Ukraine other than to grind Russia down which isn't ultimately good for your average Ukranian citizen.

Its just impossible to accurately assess either side because there is so much fog around what an off ramp looks like.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22476 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:09 am to
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Per Bloomberg, the US has eased sanctions on at least 10 Russian banks, including the Central Bank, for energy-related operations.




"AS LONG AS IT TAKES!!"

What a damn bunch of hypocrites.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82683 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:11 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2379 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:11 am to
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Per Bloomberg, the US has eased sanctions on at least 10 Russian banks, including the Central Bank, for energy-related operations.



"AS LONG AS IT TAKES!!"

What a damn bunch of hypocrites.


They are somewhat countering Ukraine's refinery drone strike strategy
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2379 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:13 am to
This should NOT pass before November. Give the people a chance to decide on this.

In fact, there is no reason we can't have nationwide votes on issues like this given the technology that exists nowadays.

A 10 year commitment is crazy.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22476 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:24 am to
Mark my words, in 6 months to a year after this is over the Germans will be back trading with Russia like nothing ever happened. Just wait and see.

"As long as It Takes"!!"
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9746 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:50 am to
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They are somewhat countering Ukraine's refinery drone strike strategy


Zero to do with refineries or crude oil. We aren't getting any gasoline from a nation being forced to import it, or any crude oil that we don't need.

More to do with uranium and natural gas with Russia still supplying around 17% of Europe's natural gas even LNG to Germany
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2642 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:05 am to
OSINTtechnical
@Osinttechnical

Russian milblogger Rybar reports that Ukrainian forces have fired over 30 ATACMS at Russian targets in Crimea over the past two weeks.

Last night, Ukrainian forces reportedly hit targets around Dzhankoy Airbase and Gvardeyskoye Airbase with 12 ATACMS.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9746 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:11 am to
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A 10 year commitment is crazy.


Well RFK Jr who loves authoritarian oil producers and wants to shutdown drilling, refining and petrochemicals in the USA for several decades so yes it's crazy.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82683 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:13 am to
What will GOP_Tiger do now that his two choices for President are at odds on his most important issue?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13583 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:17 am to
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This should NOT pass before November. Give the people a chance to decide on this.

In fact, there is no reason we can't have nationwide votes on issues like this given the technology that exists nowadays.

A 10 year commitment is crazy.


First, it would not pass.

Second NO PRESIDENT can put in a 10 year commitment that cant be undone by the next president.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36339 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:18 am to
Is there any real evidence of this?

Biden barely got 60B approved, he isn’t about to get one trillion more.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13583 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:19 am to
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More to do with uranium and natural gas with Russia still supplying around 17% of Europe's natural gas even LNG to Germany


Basically the admin is slow walking LNG projects in the states, while fast forwarding the export of Russian natural gas.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36339 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:20 am to
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A 10 year commitment is crazy.


The one and a half trillion is the crazy.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82683 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:23 am to
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First, it would not pass.

Second NO PRESIDENT can put in a 10 year commitment that cant be undone by the next president.


Almost certainly true, but that didn't stop the people running Biden's administration from putting out the press release.
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