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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:27 am to
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Oh no, Ukraine lost. Again!

#InsiderSources confirmed the loss. Again.


The summer will be bad. Ukraine is having trouble filling the gaps in the line because of the losses they’ve suffered and the shortfalls they’ve seen in recruiting. Shortages are also a pressing issue. And it’s not just ammunition, the 153rd Mechanized is no longer mechanized because they don’t have enough infantry fighting vehicles to equip it.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:42 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:46 am to
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The summer will be bad. Ukraine is having trouble filling the gaps in the line because of the losses they’ve suffered and the shortfalls they’ve seen in recruiting. Shortages are also a pressing issue. And it’s not just ammunition, the 153rd Mechanized is no longer mechanized because they don’t have enough infantry fighting vehicles to equip it.



At that point you have to fill in the gaps with more weapons and people, or pull back and remake the line smaller. There is also risk in becoming more concentrated, though.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:54 am to
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At that point you have to fill in the gaps with more weapons and people, or pull back and remake the line smaller. There is also risk in becoming more concentrated, though.


And everyone is talking about how they'll have to pull back, including Zelensky. So they do understand it, and they're preparing the public for it.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:54 am to
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The summer will be bad. Ukraine is having trouble filling the gaps in the line because of the losses they’ve suffered and the shortfalls they’ve seen in recruiting. Shortages are also a pressing issue. And it’s not just ammunition, the 153rd Mechanized is no longer mechanized because they don’t have enough infantry fighting vehicles to equip it.


I’ve said it multiple times, everyday this war continues the worse Ukraine’s position will become. If the Western allies really want to help Ukraine, they’ll find ways though diplomatic means to secure the best peace possible for Ukraine. But I say “best peace” as a relative term because already Ukraine is not in a position to secure a good peace. However, with each passing day, whatever peace they can get is worse than the one they could have got the day before.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Sorry for going against tNarrative. Go pray to your John McCain altar to calm yourself down GOP


Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:07 pm to
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That was never Russia's goal. They always wanted ALL of Ukraine


Omg this is so ignorant


This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Give Ukraine 155mm shells until Russia finally gives up


You've said some variation of this at least 5x this week. It never stops being funny
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:35 pm to
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You've said some variation of this at least 5x this week. It never stops being funny



Nevermind that 155mms aren't a new thing, but they will definitely work this time!
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:36 pm to
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The summer will be bad. Ukraine is having trouble filling the gaps in the line because of the losses they’ve suffered and the shortfalls they’ve seen in recruiting. Shortages are also a pressing issue. And it’s not just ammunition, the 153rd Mechanized is no longer mechanized because they don’t have enough infantry fighting vehicles to equip it.

Yeah, I've heard this for 2+ years. We'll see.
Posted by notiger1997
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Member since May 2009
61745 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Nevermind that 155mms aren't a new thing, but they will definitely work this time!


The point is that if they have enough of these, Russia can’t gain any ground.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:38 pm to
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You've said some variation of this at least 5x this week. It never stops being funny

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ColtRange

I don't think you'd be amused if I posted images of what those 155mm shells did to Russians for the past 2+ years.

I think you'd be rather upset.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I don't think you'd be amused if I posted images of what those 155mm shells did to Russians for the past 2+ years.


The problem is we don’t have the stocks, nor the production levels, to meet Ukrainian needs. We have already depleted our stocks down to a level that we barely have enough for our own needs. The war in Ukraine is a war of attrition. The key to winning such a war is war materials production. Russia has put their industrial base on a wartime footing. We have not. I’m sorry, but the West doesn’t have enough, nor can they make ent, 155mm artillery rounds to keep Ukraine in the fight long term. I know the Czech Republic has a scheme to provide Ukraine something like 1M 155 shells. That is a band-aid that will help only short term. Unless there is a mobilization in the west not seen in 80 years, there is no way the West can provide Ukraine the armaments they need.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5744 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:05 pm to
Ukrainian strikes have taken out at least 10% of Russia's oil refining capacity – NATO assessment
Oleh Pavliuk, Yevhen Kizilov — Thursday, 4 April 2024, 19:17

NATO believes that Ukrainian drone strikes on Russia's oil refining infrastructure have significantly affected Russia's fuel market and incurred additional financial costs.

Source: European Pravda’s correspondent from Brussels, citing a NATO official who spoke on condition of anonymity

Details: The source noted that Russia significantly increased its petrol imports from Belarus in March and has imposed a six-month ban on petrol exports to stabilise domestic prices. In addition, Moscow has not ruled out increasing crude oil exports, as it cannot refine it in sufficient quantities.

"The strikes have likely taken out over 10% of Russia's refining capacity, possibly over 15%. And depending on the extent of the damage, repairs could take a considerable time and involve considerable costs," the NATO official added.

The source also pointed out that some of the Ukrainian drone strikes have been conducted at a distance of over 1,000 km, underscoring the scale of the attacks.

"I believe that in the future, fewer and fewer of these Russian energy infrastructure facilities will be protected from potential attacks, and the Russian economy will be increasingly affected in this area," the source concluded.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
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The point is that if they have enough of these, Russia can’t gain any ground.


Russia already has the sea access they want. We really should just negotiate a peace now. But all the “muh Hitler, muh Poland is next” mongs are stridently opposed for some reason (profit, most likely).
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42767 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Russia already has the sea access they want


Russia has fought wars for centuries trying to get access to the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Seas. This war had made things worse for their navy, not better.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
8186 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:41 pm to
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That is a band-aid that will help only short term. Unless there is a mobilization in the west not seen in 80 years, there is no way the West can provide Ukraine the armaments they need.


I'm not sure we could stand up the manufacturing quickly enough to support ourselves if we got into a real war.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5744 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:44 pm to
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Russia had fought wars for centuries trying to get access to the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Seas. This war had made things worse for their navy, not better.


What's left of their Black Sea fleet is hesitant to leave port.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16147 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:58 pm to
Russia needed Iran and North Korea to their stocks, much of it old and beyond what we would call expiration dates.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74024 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:03 pm to
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I'm not sure we could stand up the manufacturing quickly enough to support ourselves if we got into a real war.


Sadly, I think you’re 100% correct. It would take us decades to rebuild our manufacturing base to the point it could support a major war.
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