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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:47 pm to
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Why was this not sent in 2014 or 2022?


Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:33 pm to
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Singapore’s Minister of Defense, Ng Eng Hen, has announced that American F-35s have been actively engaged in missions over Ukraine. The objective of these missions is to pinpoint the exact locations of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems. “In recent activities, the United States has mobilized its F-35s to identify the deployment of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems within Ukraine. The gathered intelligence is subsequently disseminated to NATO countries,” shared the chief of Singapore’s military. 
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Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:48 am to
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Why was this not sent in 2014 or 2022?


Because we’re stupid and aren’t serious about solving world issues. What we’ve gave Ukraine since the end of 2022 still wasn’t enough for what was needed to seriously tackle this conflict. We were too late and it’s been too late. A complete failure among many administrations and politicians over the years. I don’t know how you handle all of this going forward, but we’re in for some crazy times ahead.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:26 am to
In trying to avoid escalation they've guaranteed escalation.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:57 am to
The destruction of the Sergei Kotov, the latest russian loss in The Battle of The Black Sea.

Youtube

Defence Intelligence of Ukraine confirms destruction of Russian patrol ship Sergei Kotov by Magura drones

VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — Tuesday, 5 March 2024, 08:49

Defence Intelligence of Ukraine has confirmed that the Russian Black Sea Fleet patrol ship Sergei Kotov was sunk as a result of an attack by Ukrainian Magura V5 drones.

Source: Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU)

Quote: "Group 13, a special unit of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, attacked the Russian Black Sea Fleet patrol ship Sergei Kotov on the night of 4-5 March 2024".

The mission was conducted in cooperation with the Ukrainian Navy and with the support of Ukraine’s Ministry of Digital Transformation."

Details: It is reported that the Russian Project 22160 patrol vessel Sergei Kotov sustained damage to its stern, starboard and port sides as a result of the strike by Magura V5 maritime drones.

The Kotov was hit in Ukrainian territorial waters near the Kerch Strait.

The value of the sunken ship is estimated at around $65 million.

Ukrainska Pravda

from The Kyiv Independent...

In total, Russia's Black Sea Fleet has four vessels of this design, which the Ukrainian Navy calls "the most modern:" Vasily Bykov, Pavel Derzhavin, Sergey Kotov, and Dmitry Rogachev. Only the latter has not been attacked during the all-out war.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 3:33 am
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:58 am to
Janis Kluge
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Ukraine continues to target Russian oil infrastructure, this time in Belgorod. They may have found a real vulnerability: Small drones can have a big impact, it's hard to protect all objects, and there are potentially big economic/logistical implications.



According to open sources, the oil depot of the local subsidiary of Rosneft, JSC Belgorodnefteprodukt, is located in Dolgoye.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 4:06 am
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:14 am to
WarTranslated (Dmitri)
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Fighterbomber suggests removing all russian ships from the Black Sea.



Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:21 am to
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The destruction of the Sergei Kotov, the latest russian loss in The Battle of The Black Sea.



This was a very new ship, launched January 29, 2021.

The ship had fired Kalibr missiles at Ukraine.

Ukraine continues to gain more control of the Black Sea around Crimea.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:03 am to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:05 am to
Not saying this isn't true but how would
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Singapore’s Minister of Defense, Ng Eng Hen


Know this and why share it?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:05 am to
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Details: It is reported that the Russian Project 22160 patrol vessel Sergei Kotov sustained damage to its stern, starboard and port sides as a result of the strike by Magura V5 maritime drones.

These drones each carry over 300kg of explosives and what's surprising is that they have a range of over 800km. That's enough for a trip from Odessa to Sevastopol - and back again.

Note the location of this latest addition to the Black Sea submarine fleet - the waters off the Kerch bridge. By sea, Odessa to Sevastopol is 303km and Sevatopol to the Kerch Bridge is anothe 320km. If we do the math we can see that patrol boats / barges protecting this bridge are doomed.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:06 am to
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As soon as Congress passes new aid, Ukraine will get long-range ATACMS, which will completely change the strategic calculus in Crimea.


Why was this not sent in 2014 or 2022?


Are we going to ignore this question in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2023?
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:24 am to
Obama and Hillary's Reset Button were in office in 2014. They sent blankets. Under Trump we sent javelins and training. There was zero sign of Russia enlarging the conflict until Biden had flubbed Afghanistan
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 6:45 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:34 am to
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Because we’re stupid and aren’t serious about solving world issues.
Nah.

Julian Assange hit the bullseye addressing this topic regarding Afghanistan in 2011,
“... because the goal is not to completely subjugate Afghanistan. The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the United States, out of the tax bases of European countries, through Afghanistan, back into the hands of the transnational security elite... The goal is to have an endless war, not a successful war.”
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Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:33 am to
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Why was this not sent in 2014 or 2022?



Weak leadership in the White House both times.

Obama and Mushbrain Biden

Obama needed Putin to get his Iran Nuclear Deal. So Ukraine got blankets.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 8:26 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:42 am to
5 surface drones destroy Russian patrol ship Sergei Kotov with helicopter on board
STANISLAV POHORILOV — Tuesday, 5 March 2024, 12:30

Ukraine's intelligence has published intercepted conversations of the Russians detailing the destruction of the Russian patrol ship Sergei Kotov.

Source: intercepted conversations of the commander of the 184th Novorossiysk Coastal Defence Brigade, under whose command Sergei Kotov ship was operating; Ukrainska Pravda's sources

Quote: "I understand you are referring to the tragic nighttime incident. At 00:50, five unmanned boats attacked the small patrol ship Kotov, which, along with us, is on duty for air defence and it is under my command."

Details: The Russian reported that Sergei Kotov was attacked by five unmanned boats, adding that there was also a helicopter on board.

Ukrainska Pravda's sources stated that a Ka-29 shipborne combat transport helicopter was destroyed.

Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:17 am to
Obama/Biden type of administrations have seriously emboldened our enemies. Shoot, not even just our enemies, but our allies don’t have the same kind of respect for us under these kinds of administrations.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:28 am to
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Obama/Biden type of administrations have seriously emboldened our enemies. Shoot, not even just our enemies, but our allies don’t have the same kind of respect for us under these kinds of administrations.



100%
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:59 am to
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Obama needed Putin to get his Iran Nuclear Deal.
Nah. They got much more than that.

They got the Euromaidan to overthrow a democratically elected President.

They got a truckload of CIA infiltration .. uhm .. assistance.

They got the Soros backed NABU, and

They got a billion dollars when they fired their Prosecutor General.

So, they got quite a bit from Obama.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:02 am to
It's no wonder that over 80% of Democrat voters continue to support this boondoggle in Ukraine.
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