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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:15 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:15 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Mate I apologised to you, yet you continue to attack me. I have no option at this point but to consider these overtures as having been rejected.
It's very sad.
It's very sad.
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:21 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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You're a Russia loving traitor.
Why is Russia considered an enemy of the United States?
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:24 pm to Warfox
LOL
Posted on 3/1/24 at 12:44 pm to Warfox
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Why is Russia considered an enemy of the United States?
Russia is a fascinating country. I would love for us to have good relations. Unfortunately they keep doing unfriendly things.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:10 pm to lsu777
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It's propaganda for his voters. and it's working. Russians for the most part think the Ukrainians are Nazis that want to eradicate ethnic Russians and that Vlad is fighting the good fight against the West who just wants Russians to die
The phenomenon of Russians believing Ukrainians are Nazis is because of World War II. It is indeed true the Nazis enjoyed a good deal support in Ukraine during the war. The question is why did the Ukrainians support Nazi Germany.
You have to remember that when the Wehrmacht marched into the Soviet Union in June, 1941 it was only a few years after Stalin’s catastrophic manmade famine in Ukraine had lead to millions of Ukrainians starving to death. In the early days of Operation Barbarossa many Ukrainians looked to the Germans as liberators from the brutal oppression of the Soviets. And on top of this, you can factor in the Nazi message of anti-communism, which many Ukrainians had turned against due to mistreatment under the Soviet system. This is why many in Ukraine supported the Germans and even went so far as to serve in various roles ranging from laborers, concentration camp guards, and even combat roles. Upwards of a quarter of a million Ukrainian men served in the Wehrmacht during WWII.
History, as is the case with most things in life, is a matter of perspective. While we in the west see the Nazis in WWII from a prism of pure evil with no redeeming qualities. The viewpoint from Ukraine is far more complex. And that is due to their own experience under Soviet rule prior to the war.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:32 pm to Darth_Vader
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Thousands of people defied the threat of arrest by attending the funeral of Alexei Navalny in Moscow, embracing one of the last remaining avenues to register their anger at President Vladimir Putin as well as mourning one of the few politicians capable of standing up to the Russian leader.
The Kremlin had warned Russians against attending what it called spontaneous memorials for the opposition leader, who died in an Arctic prison camp last month. But security forces largely took a hands-off approach to the procession of mourners that made its way from the Church of the Icon of the Mother of God to the cemetery where Navalny was laid to rest. His parents looked on as people placed dirt on his coffin.
Some in the crowd shouted, “No to war.” Others joined in with calls of “Putin is a murderer” and “Free political prisoners.”
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The city was on edge in the hours before the service. Russian independent media reported heavy police presence Friday morning around the church and cemetery. Heightened security was also evident around some public buildings and metro stations, residents said.
By noon, crowds had begun to gather at the church where the service was to be held. Fences had been erected outside to control the crowds. Long lines of people waited to pay their respects, many carrying flowers.
The crowd erupted in applause and cries of “Navalny, Navalny” as the hearse carrying his coffin entered the church compound.
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The risk of attending the funeral was real. At least 400 people were arrested across Russia for laying flowers in memory of Navalny after news of his death emerged on Feb. 16, according to OVD-Info, a Russian rights-monitoring organization.
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After Navalny’s team struggled for days to find a venue that would agree to host his memorial service, his allies said on Thursday that no mortuary had agreed to send a hearse to bring his body to the church for the funeral service. The businesses had reportedly received calls from unknown people threatening them not to transport Navalny’s body anywhere, according to Navalny’s spokeswoman, Kira Yarmysh.
The funeral was held in an area where Navalny once lived. Among those attending were the U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Lynne Tracy, who carried flowers. Other senior Western diplomats were also present.
The U.S. Embassy in Moscow said on its X account that Navalny’s fate “is a tragic reminder of the lengths the Kremlin will go to silence its critics.”
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Despite stringent laws forbidding criticism of the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine, security forces in Moscow largely held back. OVD-Info, the Russian rights-monitoring group, reported that 56 people were detained across the country in 14 cities in connection with Navalny’s funeral, including in the Urals city of Yekaterinburg, where 10 people were taken into custody while laying flowers, and in Novosibirsk in Siberia, where authorities detained seven people at a rally in memory of Navalny.
Some of those detained were quickly released, according to information from OVD-Info.
Thousands Defy Kremlin to Attend Alexei Navalny’s Funeral in Moscow (WSJ)
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:33 pm to trinidadtiger
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No it should scare the French, that is a direct act of war, and Russia has made that crystal clear.
First of all: from my understanding, France has a pretty strong military. Their gear is good and their training is good. From what we've seen, a professional French army would likely crush the badly damaged Russian army that still exists.
Secondly: this is only happening because Russia is trying to open a second front in Western Ukraine with Transnistria. Macron et al are offering to put soldiers in Western Ukraine to prevent a western invasion, and also so Ukraine can free up those soldiers to move east.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:42 pm to StormyMcMan
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But security forces largely took a hands-off approach to the procession of mourners that made its way from the Church of the Icon of the Mother of God to the cemetery where Navalny was laid to rest.
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Despite stringent laws forbidding criticism of the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine, security forces in Moscow largely held back. OVD-Info, the Russian rights-monitoring group, reported that 56 people were detained across the country in 14 cities
Interesting. As this occurred across 14 cities, someone gave the goons the order. Will the protestors test the water again this week?
Posted on 3/1/24 at 1:43 pm to StormyMcMan
Random tweets
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Argentine President Javier #Milei has handed over to Ukraine two Mi-17 helicopters that the country received from Russia
Additionally, Argentina is planning to hold a Latin American support summit for Ukraine later this year.
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Switzerland decided to join the 13th package of EU sanctions against Russia
This move comes in response to Russia's ongoing military aggression against Ukraine over the past two years.
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North Korea may have stopped supplying ammunition to Russia
At least North Korean cargo ships have not sailed to Russia for three weeks, the 'NK Pro' publication says.
The reason for the cessation of deliveries by sea is unknown. However, it's speculated that North Korea may still supply weapons to the occupiers by air or rail.
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:05 pm to WeeWee
Yeah the Russians attacked a Marine unit with a few special forces that were vastly outnumbered in Syria and they still fricked the Russians up.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:06 pm to Darth_Vader
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You have to remember that when the Wehrmacht marched into the Soviet Union in June, 1941 it was only a few years after Stalin’s catastrophic manmade famine in Ukraine had lead to millions of Ukrainians starving to death. In the early days of Operation Barbarossa many Ukrainians looked to the Germans as liberators from the brutal oppression of the Soviets.
Had the Nazis acted more like liberators in fact, the rotten house of the Soviets would have had a better chance of falling. Hitler wasn't interested in "inferior" people though, he just wanted their land.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:18 pm to SirWinston
I too will vote for Trump and he will stop this slaughter of men for the sake of money.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:20 pm to WestCoastAg
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Now every piss arse country in NATO that wants to start something they cant finish can drag our arse into it.
there are so many examples of this happening
You really dont understand what this conflict is about son, stay on the porch and let the big boys talk.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:29 pm to RuLSU
Ukrainian pilots were practicing air to air and air to ground strikes today in the F-16A which means they are flying alone and not the F-16B which is the 2 seater that they were trained on. That first batch of pilots are getting awfully close to being declared operational.
Also Crimea and particularly Sevastopol has been hit hard today with what is believed to be a new shipment of Storm Shadows.
Also Crimea and particularly Sevastopol has been hit hard today with what is believed to be a new shipment of Storm Shadows.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:33 pm to lsu777
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are you saying we shouldn't help any country that is invaded and just allow rogue states to run wild so long as they dont actually attack us?
You right, any rogue forces overtaking a country we should come to their aid where do you want to start:
Yemen, Burma, Democratic Republic of the Congo (I can never say that without laughting), Sudan, South Sudan (ask Clooney to chip in here, he invented the country with our tax dollars), Somalia, Ethiopia, Nigeria. Lets help them all eh?
The reason we dont is we dont trust them to give kickbacks after we fund them.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:34 pm to LSUPilot07
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Also Crimea and particularly Sevastopol has been hit hard today with what is believed to be a new shipment of Storm Shadows.
The goal seems clear: blow up air defense, get F-16, blow up the Kerch bridge and then starve Crimea.
Not saying it will work, just saying that appears to be the strategy. Looks like it's getting closer and closer to fruition.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:46 pm to RuLSU
Priority #1 is clearly blinding Russian surveillance of Ukrainian airspace and located then targeting air defenses. Ukraine wants Crimea more than they want the Donbas IMO. The Netherlands have also contributed $150 million to the artillery shell deal the Czechs have. That’s about 37,500 shells if they are really selling around $4,000 a piece right now. $150 million should be able to buy 150,000 shells. There’s no reason they should cost more than $1K but greed comes out in wartime. This deal needs to get done though. 850,000 shells buys Ukraine what they need most right now. Time. They can effectively defend themselves for months. Ukraine has also said they have acquired or made 200,000 FPV drones already this year so that takes a lot of work off the artillery.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 2:47 pm to RuLSU
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First of all: from my understanding, France has a pretty strong military. Their gear is good and their training is good. From what we've seen, a professional French army would likely crush the badly damaged Russian army that still exists.
While it has been over 30 years (JFC I am getting old) my unit fought beside the French 6e DLB (Light Armored Brigade). They were on the far NW flank of the Desert Storm offensive and my unit was just inside of them so I got to know them as best I could beforehand because we would have to coordinate. They appeared and performed like a professional army and I expect they are as good now. The interesting thing was their light infantry unit (2E REI) was a foreign legion unit there were several others in the brigade but I mainly talked to the grunts since we spoke the same language (Neanderthal). At the time I thought the French Foreign Legion was a completely separate entity. Let's just say that motley crew looked like they could take on Satan single-handed and come out victorious without even missing their beret. The was one Morraccan Sub-lieutenant who mocked us relentlessly for how we dressed our berets and would break out into "Raspberry Beret" in his best broken English Prince impersonation.
Posted on 3/1/24 at 3:12 pm to Obtuse1
The Czech general staff said the EU has come up with half the money needed for the 850,000 shells. It’s obvious they are waiting on the U.S. now. If true then 425,000 shells need to be getting their arse to Ukraine but I doubt they send the first shell until the entire deal is complete.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 3/1/24 at 3:18 pm to RuLSU
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First of all: from my understanding, France has a pretty strong military. Their gear is good and their training is good. From what we've seen, a professional French army would likely crush the badly damaged Russian army that still exists.
Best in Europe, but it's a small expeditionary force. It doesn't have the mass to fight the Russians. The Armée de Terre is about 120k men. They also wouldn't be able to sustain combat for very long. The casualties would be a problem, one, but they would run down their heavy weapon systems, and you would see issues with equipment breakage, and shortages of spare parts. They don't budget for something like this.
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Secondly: this is only happening because Russia is trying to open a second front in Western Ukraine with Transnistria. Macron et al are offering to put soldiers in Western Ukraine to prevent a western invasion, and also so Ukraine can free up those soldiers to move east.
If Ukraine invaded Transnistria, the Russians wouldn't be able to stop it. The Ukrainians would overrun it. For that reason, I believe Transnistria is the one pushing these headlines.
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