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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:39 pm to trinidadtiger
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:39 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:
By the way what does Iran's constitution say, should we abide by that as well.
No
Iran should abide by their constitution, we should abide by ours and Ukraine theirs.
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:41 pm to trinidadtiger
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And some of you cheer this on. Disgraceful, just disgraceful.
Huh???
You need to cut back on the liquor. You aren’t making any sense.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:50 pm to NC_Tigah
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We had the option not to expand NATO. We had the option to extend a Marshall plan to Yeltsin's democratized Russia. We had the option to walk back NATO to Ukraine/Georgia. We had the option to not illegally overthrow a Ukrainian government in 2014. We had FAR more than "three options."
Duh, we are talking about options after Feb of 22. Please keep up.
And btw, US foreign policy is not designed to cater to Russia. Furthermore, other Europesn nations also don’t cater to Russia, they wanted in NATO for good reason.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:16 pm to doubleb
Only in seditious politard land does the practice of weakening America to placate Russia make sense.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:21 pm to Hateradedrink
They will all commit ritual suicide if their God aka Trump commands it. They are no longer Americans they are just sheeple of a madman, and a clear and present danger to the USA and the constitution and be treated as such.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:39 pm to TutHillTiger
FWIW, no real power outages in Ukraine this year, since all the Russian crap substations have been replaced.
Natural gas in Europe is the lowest it's been since April 2021. More people froze from lack of heat in Russia (with failing central steam plants for heat) than in Europe and Ukraine. This even though Tucker the Stupid Phucker was telling us that Europe was going to freeze without Russian natural gas.
Dullards buy all sorts of fake news.
Natural gas in Europe is the lowest it's been since April 2021. More people froze from lack of heat in Russia (with failing central steam plants for heat) than in Europe and Ukraine. This even though Tucker the Stupid Phucker was telling us that Europe was going to freeze without Russian natural gas.
Dullards buy all sorts of fake news.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:34 am to StormyMcMan
quote:
Belarusian and Kazakh companies are reportedly helping Russia circumvent international sanctions intended to deprive the Russian defense industrial base (DIB) of Western components and machines.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:17 am to doubleb
quote:
quote:
By the way what does Iran's constitution say, should we abide by that as well.
No
Iran should abide by their constitution, we should abide by ours and Ukraine theirs.
You stated its in ukraines constitution to enter the EU, apparently you believe you can just crash it, no need for the EU members to approve......after all you said its in their constitution.
So if thats the case we should abide by Iran's. Heck we should pass an amendment and void all our debt and make all US citizens handsome and beautiful, and it will be so.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:17 am to SirWinston
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 22 February 2024
On 14 February 2024, Russian Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists that while the "special military operation began as an operation against Ukraine, over time it has taken on the form of a war against the collective West, a war when the countries of the collective West, led by the United States, are directly involved in this conflict." This is broadly consistent with a trend in Russian official rhetoric that seeks to excuse the length of the conflict, and scale of Russian losses through the depiction of the war as a direct conflict with the West.
Peskov went on to acknowledge that the 'special military operation' "may last a bit longer, but this can't change the course of things." This forms part of the Russian official narrative almost certainly aimed at situating the domestic population for a long-term conflict and the associated decline in domestic living standards, while providing reassurance of ultimate Russian victory.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 22 February 2024
On 14 February 2024, Russian Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists that while the "special military operation began as an operation against Ukraine, over time it has taken on the form of a war against the collective West, a war when the countries of the collective West, led by the United States, are directly involved in this conflict." This is broadly consistent with a trend in Russian official rhetoric that seeks to excuse the length of the conflict, and scale of Russian losses through the depiction of the war as a direct conflict with the West.
Peskov went on to acknowledge that the 'special military operation' "may last a bit longer, but this can't change the course of things." This forms part of the Russian official narrative almost certainly aimed at situating the domestic population for a long-term conflict and the associated decline in domestic living standards, while providing reassurance of ultimate Russian victory.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:19 am to CitizenK
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FWIW, no real power outages in Ukraine this year, since all the Russian crap substations have been replaced.
Natural gas in Europe is the lowest it's been since April 2021. More people froze from lack of heat in Russia (with failing central steam plants for heat) than in Europe and Ukraine. This even though Tucker the Stupid Phucker was telling us that Europe was going to freeze without Russian natural gas.
Dullards buy all sorts of fake news.
Odd thing to brag about, spending US tax dollars to build power stations in foreign countries while our homeless vets freeze on our streets. But to each his own.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:51 am to StormyMcMan
quote:ISW makes a joke...
A Ukrainian HIMARS strike against an undefended Russian training ground near occupied Volnovakha, Donetsk Oblast likely inflicted significant casualties, triggering a point of neuralgia for the Russian ultranationalist milblogger community.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:32 am to trinidadtiger
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Odd thing to brag about, spending US tax dollars to build power stations in foreign countries while our homeless vets freeze on our streets. But to each his own.
Odd that homeless vets were freezing before Feb 2022 but somehow you think that they weren't.
Try harder next time
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:21 am to trinidadtiger
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You stated its in ukraines constitution to enter the EU, apparently you believe you can just crash it, no need for the EU members to approve......after all you said its in their constitution.
No I did not. I just responded to your dumb question about the Iranian constitution. Sober up.
quote:
So if thats the case we should abide by Iran's. Heck we should pass an amendment and void all our debt and make all US citizens handsome and beautiful, and it will be so.
Get off the sauce.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:24 am to CitizenK
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Odd that homeless vets were freezing before Feb 2022 but somehow you think that they weren't.
You’d think there’s an allotment of cold cash in a bank somewhere dedicated to the homeless that Biden diverted to Ukraine. Same thing with cash to control our border.
The facts are clear, Biden and his ilk have no intention of helping vets or securing our border. They are spending TRILLIONs elsewhere and it’s not on Ukraine.
And don’t you love the idea of sending aid to Russia through a Marshall Plan? The guy that says it’s bad to aid Ukraine would rather aid Russia!
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 9:07 am
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:41 am to doubleb
US Senate to hold hearing on presence of US-made chips in Russian weapons
by Nate Ostiller and The Kyiv Independent news desk February 22, 2024 2:52 PM
Blumenthal wrote that the hearing may particularly focus on the four largest producers of semiconductors in the U.S., whose exports to third-party countries close to Russia have grown exponentially since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.
The companies' exports to Kazakhstan increased more than 1,000 times from 2021 to 2022. In the same time period, exports to Georgia and Armenia were 34 and 28 times greater, respectively.
"This data raises significant questions about the export control and compliance programs at these American semiconductor manufacturers," the announcement read.
The Kyiv Independent
by Nate Ostiller and The Kyiv Independent news desk February 22, 2024 2:52 PM
Blumenthal wrote that the hearing may particularly focus on the four largest producers of semiconductors in the U.S., whose exports to third-party countries close to Russia have grown exponentially since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.
The companies' exports to Kazakhstan increased more than 1,000 times from 2021 to 2022. In the same time period, exports to Georgia and Armenia were 34 and 28 times greater, respectively.
"This data raises significant questions about the export control and compliance programs at these American semiconductor manufacturers," the announcement read.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:51 am to cypher
Well, that was hard to figure out. It seems as though it could have been seen happening in real time if the administration had just a little common sense.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:02 am to CitizenK
quote:Without US backing, support, and frank leadership, "NATO's option" has less worth than your nose booger.
NATO's option for the first.
quote:So you don't know WTF the Marshall Plan was? Instead of shooting from the hip with poorly considered knee jerk responses, pick up a book and read something now and then.
We paid for rehab of their existing shitty oil
quote:No. However, every one of yours are made by an ill-informed nitwit. They speak for themselves.
Every single one of your points is made by the Kremlin
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:52 am to NC_Tigah
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No. However, every one of yours are made by an ill-informed nitwit. They speak for themselves.
I am infinitely better informed than you are.
Those were 100% Kremlin talking points spread by useful idiots.
The oil profits built today's Russia.
BTW, Nordstream was approved for political reasons, not economic ones. Natural gas is cheaper in Europe than since April 2021 and no one is freezing.
Keep on getting your info from the clueless, bought/paid for, or useful idiot media outlets
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:15 am to CitizenK
quote:No nitwit, not even on your best day.
I am infinitely better informed than you are.
E.g., Your contention that NATO expansion "options" are exclusive of obligatory US approval is rat brain stupid.
Sorry. It is what it is.
quote:Nordstream? Is this some sort of exercise in free association or is it a fight of ideas pathology?
The oil profits built today's Russia.
BTW, Nordstream was approved for political reasons, not economic ones. Natural gas is cheaper in Europe than since April 2021 and no one is freezing.
Look up the Marshall Plan. Relate it to what might have been, had the Clinton Administration been more attuned to bostering a fledgling Russian democracy as opposed to cigar insertions or oval office oral service.
quote:Your projection is both silly and revealing.
Keep on getting your info from the clueless, bought/paid for, or useful idiot media outlets
This is quite simple.
I've cited my sources.
You claim they are "Kremlin Talking Points."
Make your case.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:50 am to NC_Tigah
Keep on getting your info from the clueless, bought/paid for, or useful idiot media outlets
Russia had lots of natural resources to pay for things, AFTER we paid for them to be restored and new developed.
That point must have flown right over your head while you were praising Hillary's "Reset Button"
Russia had lots of natural resources to pay for things, AFTER we paid for them to be restored and new developed.
That point must have flown right over your head while you were praising Hillary's "Reset Button"
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