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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:12 pm to
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For people of color, it's systemic racism. For white males, it's the Deep State.


Literally the most wealthy and powerful man in the history of civilisation (a white male) believes the deep state is real.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19564 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:13 pm to
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Russian sources largely characterized the Ukrainian withdrawal as disorganized and costly and claimed that Russian forces managed to encircle large Ukrainian groups in Avdiivka, but ISW has observed no evidence supporting these Russian claims.


The soldiers that made it out crossed open ground under direct Russian fire from both sides. The corridor they went through was at best 1km wide.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30525 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:16 pm to
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If you don't understand that this conflict affects us, I don't know what to tell you


That's a convenient glossing over of an answer. In other words, it's not an answer at all. The fact is that Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union for 75 years and it didn't affect the United States one iota. In fact, the United States achieved a level of prosperity not seen before in world history.

Now it's your and every other Slava Ukraine! type globalists' contention that Russia - a country literally half the size of the USSR and whose military is so inept it can't whip a third rate country like Ukraine - poses some kind of existential threat to our way of life? Really?

Let's say tomorrow Russia just magically overruns Ukraine and meets its military/political goals. Exactly how is that going to have a dramatic impact on us?

Also explain why Western Europe can't handle this themselves?
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1347 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:19 pm to
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If you don't understand that this conflict affects us, I don't know what to tell you


It doesn’t.

We’ve already wasted how much? Over $100 billion? And we’re expected to pay pensions and salaries of Ukrainians?

Hammer out a peace deal, stop this nonsense.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35736 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:20 pm to
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civilisation

Yikes.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1347 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:31 pm to
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Do you think that China intentionally released the virus as a weapon? That makes zero sense, as China suffered more from COVID than the US did, and that would have been foreseen by the Chinese authorities.


Absolutely they did.

And despite different branches of our government trying to muddy the waters by claiming they don’t know how/where it started, they absolutely 100% know where it came from.

Don’t be oblivious.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
83154 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:33 pm to
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Now it's your and every other Slava Ukraine! type globalists' contention that Russia - a country literally half the size of the USSR and whose military is so inept it can't whip a third rate country like Ukraine - poses some kind of existential threat to our way of life? Really


They believe what the MSM feeds them and then think that we are the ones who are brainwashed.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
83154 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:41 pm to
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The soldiers that made it out crossed open ground under direct Russian fire from both sides. The corridor they went through was at best 1km wide.





Honestly my heart goes out to them and the Russians who were forced to fire on sitting ducks. To fire on their brothers in genetics, in shared culture, and in Christ.

This is something that Zelenskyy would not understand or care about. It's likely why he was chosen - raised up from nowhere in a phony election that the US helped orchestrate.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 8:45 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10650 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:49 pm to
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Russians who were forced to fire on sitting ducks.


Who forced them? Why didn't they just go home?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18136 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:52 pm to
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Literally the most wealthy and powerful man in the history of civilisation


I hate to paraphrase Stalin in this thread, but if he's the most powerful, how big is his army?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9870 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:25 pm to
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Literally the most wealthy and powerful man in the history of civilisation (a white male) believes the deep state is real.


Considering that Elon Musk said that Putin was many times wealthier than him, you must mean Putin.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35736 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Honestly my heart goes out to them and the Russians who were forced to fire on sitting ducks. To fire on their brothers in genetics, in shared culture, and in Christ.


Yikes.

The words of a dyed-in-the-wool racist.

And then invokes the Lord's name to try to validate his beliefs.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9870 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:27 pm to
It appears that the new General for Ukraine had a Patriot system moved to near the frontline and downed 2 SU-34 and 1 SU-35.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10650 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:29 pm to
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Literally the most wealthy and powerful man in the history of civilisation (a white male)


I realize you're a troll farm employee and not a real person. But you do understand that the titans of industry today have absolutely nothing on the fortunes and power of ancient rules.

You know nothing of wealth, power, or politics. Yet you lecture us on all three
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22104 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:29 pm to
I have a friend that's in Kyiv right now. He says it's pretty chill.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26137 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Now it's your and every other Slava Ukraine! type globalists' contention that Russia - a country literally half the size of the USSR and whose military is so inept it can't whip a third rate country like Ukraine - poses some kind of existential threat to our way of life? Really?


Russia is the only country on Earth that poses a true existential threat to the US.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5865 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:44 pm to
Yea but he’s playing with fire doing it. They only have 3 Patriot batteries in Ukraine and they are extremely expensive. One Lancet hit would be a disaster honestly. I hope he doesn’t just have one launcher in one spot hidden all the time and never moves it. It’s ok to try every now and then but for the most part they need to be protecting military high value targets and cities like Kyiv which has one battery. That being said that’s a good day’s work knocking 3 down in one run. Russia has lost around 20 of their Su-34 fighter bombers now. Su-35 is their best fighter. I’m not acknowledging the Su-57 because they are too afraid to actually use it in the war. Having ab Su-57 downed in Ukraine would be a PR disaster for Russia.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13671 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:57 pm to
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quote:
civilisation

Yikes.


Thats British spelling, as in England, where the English language is spoken.

Yikes indeed, quite an ignorant comment.


Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13671 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:05 pm to
So a new general is installed and suddenly he shoots down three fighter jets. Reminiscent of the new president of Brasil "installed" and 48 hours later deforestation of the rainforest was down by 20%.

However, we do know he is quite reckless with lives and true to form he sent his men retreating through a gap akin to Falaise....with the same results.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3261 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:39 pm to

The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire | The Secret World of Finance



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The deep state didn’t just pop into existence


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Dangerous alliance of Rothschild and Vatican of Francis.

They continue, ‘Council members make actionable commitments aligned with the World Economic Forum International Business Council’s pillars for sustainable value creation — people, planet, principles of governance, and prosperity — and that advance the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.’

In announcing the deal with the Vatican, Lynn Forester de Rothschild declared, ‘This council will follow the warning from Pope Francis to listen to “the cry of the earth and the cry of the poor” and answer society’s demands for a more equitable and sustainable model of growth.’

Their reference to Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum is no accident. The group is yet another front group in what is becoming a globalist bum’s rush to try to convince a skeptical world that the same people who created the post-1945 model of IMF-led globalization and giga-corporate entities more powerful than governments, destroying traditional agriculture in favor of toxic agribusiness, dismantling living standards in industrialized countries to flee to cheap labor countries like Mexico or China, will now lead the effort to correct all their abuses? We are being naïve if we swallow this.

Jesuits.
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