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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:22 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:22 am to Harry Rex Vonner
What I am concerned with is the death toll. NYT says that half a million have been killed with Russia losing 400,000 military personnel. That would mean that just about their entire Army has been wiped out in less than 2 years. I call bullshite.
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:28 am to beerJeep
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beerJeep
Let me guess: you're another idiot in this thread who believes that "there was Gorbachev", and "then Yeltsin came along later"???
Also, that quote you attributed to me was actually written from a link from the other guy's post.
Layers of lies - that's what Solzhenitsyn called much of the same type thing going on in here
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:31 am to GOP_Tiger
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Especially when the president of Russia assures a secretary of state (and the rest of the world) that he is not about to invade Ukraine.
So you get your info from that leftist bitch on FOX, or all the leftist bitches on CNN?
Do you understand timelines?
Do you understand some lies are almost three decades old?
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:46 am to AUstar
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What I am concerned with is the death toll. NYT says that half a million have been killed with Russia losing 400,000 military personnel. That would mean that just about their entire Army has been wiped out in less than 2 years. I call bullshite.
I think they've taken 100k casualties, max figure. And it's probably 60k.
When the BBC did their obituary survey, the total was much lower than expected. And there's no sign of domestic distress that you would get with a big death toll. The battlefield would also look very different, thinner defenses, fewer unit rotations.
That total is a Ukrainian figure, and it was probably intended to justify their own losses to the public. Washington has been 'okay' pushing it, because it serves purpose.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 4:57 am
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:00 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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So you get your info from that leftist bitch on FOX, or all the leftist bitches on CNN?
I do not have watch cable news. I do not even have cable. I do not even know which leftist bitches you are referring to (there's a leftist bitch at Fox?).
Am I to suppose that you advocate getting one's news exclusively from pure sources such as Newsmax and Tucker? I suppose that doing so could protect one from any views contaminated by reality.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 5:01 am
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:03 am to StormyMcMan
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ISW Update
You mean, ISW Op-Ed, assisted by American advisors
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:46 am to cypher
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Ukrainian authorities rarely comment on attacks on Russian soil.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:05 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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American Democrats or American Republicans only make global agreements that go as far as domestic American politics?? Holy shite you're an idiot.
You just keep digging your hole.
There is a massive difference between an executive agreement and a treaty.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:32 am to beerJeep
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 07 February 2024
The new field commander of the Russian private military company Wagner, Anton "Lotos" Yelizarov, has made his first video statement since the death of Wagner's former owner Yevgeny Prigozhin and the former field commander Dmitry "Wagner" Utkin in an August 2023 plane crash.
In his video, Yelizarov detailed the location of Wagner's new headquarters at Kazachi Lageri "Cossack Camps", almost certainly in Rostov, southern Russia, co-located with the barracks of Russia's 150th Motor Rifle Division. Yelizarov further claimed that Wagner's new base would also house the Russian National Guard's (Rosgvardiya) new Volunteer Corps, implicitly confirming Wagner's subordination to Rosgvardiya. Rosgvardiya is likely preparing a new Volunteer Corps formation of experienced Wagner personnel to reinforce Russia's war effort in Ukraine and expand Russian influence in Africa.
The Russian state highly likely authorised the construction of Wagner's new base and highly likely perceives that by subordinating Wagner to Rosgvardiya, it has removed any potential threat Wagner might pose to Russia's regime security.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 07 February 2024
The new field commander of the Russian private military company Wagner, Anton "Lotos" Yelizarov, has made his first video statement since the death of Wagner's former owner Yevgeny Prigozhin and the former field commander Dmitry "Wagner" Utkin in an August 2023 plane crash.
In his video, Yelizarov detailed the location of Wagner's new headquarters at Kazachi Lageri "Cossack Camps", almost certainly in Rostov, southern Russia, co-located with the barracks of Russia's 150th Motor Rifle Division. Yelizarov further claimed that Wagner's new base would also house the Russian National Guard's (Rosgvardiya) new Volunteer Corps, implicitly confirming Wagner's subordination to Rosgvardiya. Rosgvardiya is likely preparing a new Volunteer Corps formation of experienced Wagner personnel to reinforce Russia's war effort in Ukraine and expand Russian influence in Africa.
The Russian state highly likely authorised the construction of Wagner's new base and highly likely perceives that by subordinating Wagner to Rosgvardiya, it has removed any potential threat Wagner might pose to Russia's regime security.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:41 am to BoardReader
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Baker discussing it and advocating for it never gave it force of law, treaty, or international agreement. It gives it the force of a policy position one camp in the Elder Bush administration chose to try to advocate for-- nothing more and nothing less, unlike the Trilateral Agreement which actually was on paper, and actually was ratified, and that actually exists beyond dispute.
In other words, you root mightily for war provocateurs
chickenhawk Democrat
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:42 am to BoardReader
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Baker discussing it and advocating for it never gave it force of law, treaty, or international agreement. It gives it the force of a policy position one camp in the Elder Bush administration chose to try to advocate for-- nothing more and nothing less, unlike the Trilateral Agreement which actually was on paper, and actually was ratified, and that actually exists beyond dispute.
In other words, you root mightily for war provocateurs
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:45 am to cypher
Five Dead After Russia Launches Yet Another Mass Missile Strike
This morning, russia launched another massive air attack on Ukraine, using 20 Shaheds and 44 missiles of different types.
The Ukrainian air defense shot down 44 air targets:
- 26 Kh-101/Kh-555/Kh-55 cruise missiles;
- 3 Kalibr cruise missiles;
- 15 Shahed UAVs.
We are grateful…
— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) February 7, 2024
The Kyiv Post
This morning, russia launched another massive air attack on Ukraine, using 20 Shaheds and 44 missiles of different types.
The Ukrainian air defense shot down 44 air targets:
- 26 Kh-101/Kh-555/Kh-55 cruise missiles;
- 3 Kalibr cruise missiles;
- 15 Shahed UAVs.
We are grateful…
— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) February 7, 2024
The Kyiv Post
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:53 am to beerJeep
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There is a massive difference between an executive agreement and a treaty.
So when Clinton made the USA into liars, you cheered that. You loved it.
I see.
Lie and provoke and poke and fan the flames for endless war, and little chickenhawks back home on message boards will cheer it.
I see.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:55 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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So according to your, something?, American Democrats or American Republicans only make global agreements that go as far as domestic American politics?? Holy shite you're an idiot. So if rabid leftist freak doesn't like James Baker's views on gun control or abortion, then that renders James Baker null and void on global agreements? How embarrassing for you that you would even post that out in the open, wow. Please take "Vanderbilt" off of your fan insignia, Vanderbilt should cancel you
You’re so mad I can’t even tell what you’re trying to say. You need to calm down and wipe the spittle off your screen.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:02 am to REG861
Checking in for the melt about the incoming Putin interview.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:02 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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So conversations between United States Secretaries of State with presidents of other nations should be understood as complete and utter folly?
No.
They should be considered for what they are; conversations, discussions, bargaining.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:05 am to REG861
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You’re so mad I can’t even tell what you’re trying to say. You need to calm down and wipe the spittle off your screen.
He needs to sober up.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:07 am to theunknownknight
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Checking in for the melt about the incoming Putin interview.
Why?
Do you think Putin is going to say anything that is going to undermine his position? I don’t.
Putin goes public all the time. He handles interviews well. I do not expect anything new.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:07 am to Harry Rex Vonner
but not with US made weapons.
Don't taze me bro
Don't taze me bro
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:36 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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So when Clinton made the USA into liars, you cheered that. You loved it.
I’m very sorry that you don’t understand that EXECUTIVE AGREEMENTS ARE NOT BINDING and they last only as long both leaders are in power.
The second the leader of either country changes, that executive agreement is no longer valid.
EXECUTIVE AGREEMENTS are NOT TREATIES and are NOT binding.
I’m sorry that you can’t figure that out.
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