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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/9/23 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 5:34 pm to
Here is an interesting map of deaths from Stalin's Holodomor or death by starvation. He followed it up with a campaign of "Russification."



Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 5:54 pm to
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SouthFront is based in Crimea and reportedly run by the FSB.

Its credibility is negligible.

No, I believe Ukraine is using ISIS. That's what Ukraine is reduced to since Russia took over their biolabs and destroyed their genocide pigeons.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 5:54 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 7:42 pm to
ISW Update
And just for our lovely troll erererr LINK

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The Kremlin remains focused on promoting the purported legality and legitimacy of Russian internal politics despite Kremlin officials’ admissions to the contrary. Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov responded on October 9 to Chechen Head Ramzan Kadyrov’s October 7 proposal to cancel the upcoming 2024 presidential election and instead hold a unanimous vote for Russian President Vladimir Putin, remarking that this will not happen because Putin has “emphasized the need to comply with all of the requirements of democracy, the constitution, and accordingly, to hold these elections.”[1] Peskov then claimed that Russian society has consolidated behind Putin with unprecedented unanimity and suggested that Putin is “a politician with whom it is unlikely that anyone, even theoretically, can compete in any way electorally.”

Peskov’s strong comments also indicate the Kremlin's desire to posture confidence and steadfastness against the backdrop of Kremlin concerns over Russian opinions on and support for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Peskov’s suggestion that Russia intends to hold regular elections has the effect of emphasizing that Russia is still a functioning and confident state despite the war, and the insinuation that Putin will win the elections unanimously also frames him as an effective and capable war-time leader with the total support of his society.

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations and reportedly advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast and near Bakhmut on October 9 amid reports of deteriorating weather conditions in Ukraine. The Ukrainian General Staff and Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Colonel Oleksandr Shtupun reported that Ukrainian forces achieved partial success west of Verbove (18km southeast of Orikhiv), and near Klishchiivka (5km southwest of Bakhmut) and Andriivka (10km southwest of Bakhmut).[6] Russian milbloggers claimed that rainfall has worsened visibility in southern Ukraine, hindering Russian and Ukrainian reconnaissance drone operations.[7] One Russian milblogger claimed that the ground has become muddy and obstructs tracked vehicle movement, though another milblogger claimed that the ground has not yet become muddy enough to inhibit vehicle movement.[8] Exact conditions likely vary along the frontline, though weather conditions are generally worsening. Ukrainian Eastern Group of Forces Spokesperson Captain Ilya Yevlash reported that Russian forces are relying less heavily on aviation and drone activity in the Kupyansk-Lyman direction due to heavy rainfall.[9]

Russian forces reportedly launched localized offensive operations south of Hulyaipole, Zaporizhia Oblast, and may have reorganized the Southern Grouping of Forces, likely in an attempt to further defend against Ukrainian counteroffensive operations. A Russian milblogger and a Ukrainian military observer both independently reported that elements of the Russian 64th Motorized Rifle Brigade (35th Combined Arms Army, Eastern Military District) advanced several hundred meters in a contested ”gray zone” in the Marfopil-Chervone (6km southeast of Hulyaipole) direction on October 9.[10] Russian forces reportedly attacked at the battalion level or less, indicating that these operations are likely tactical and aim to draw and pin Ukrainian forces south of Hulyaipole rather than further west in Zaporizhia Oblast.

Imprisoned former Russian officer and ardent nationalist Igor Girkin reiterated his previous claims that the Russian military will continue to conduct a strategic defense to freeze the frontlines before the Russian presidential elections in March 2024. Girkin’s wife published a letter on October 9 which Girkin reportedly wrote on September 29 in which Girkin discussed the current state of the war and his forecast of Russian actions. Girkin has continually claimed that a specific faction within the Russian leadership has advocated for freezing the current frontline in Ukraine and has opposed another faction that advocates for continued Russian offensive operations and domestically improving the war effort.[15] Girkin claimed he is “99 percent” certain that the Kremlin will decide to “freeze the frontline” until after the Russian presidential elections in March 2024.[16] Girkin claimed that Russian forces will likely continue conducting a strategic defense on the existing frontlines and focus on preventing Ukrainian breakthroughs or “sensitive operational successes.”[17] Girkin further claimed that any Russian government actions to strengthen the Russian military before the 2024 presidential elections would likely aggravate the Russian social, economic, and internal political situations.[18] Girkin also claimed that the Russian government would likely gradually increase domestic repressions ahead of the elections.[19]

The Russian government is moving toward revoking Russia’s ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty. Reuters reported on October 9 that Russian State Duma leaders gave the Duma International Affairs Committee until October 18 to discuss the process of revoking Russia’s ratification of the treaty.[20] Russian President Vladimir Putin first commented on the possibility of Russia revoking Russia’s ratification of the treaty on October 5


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Key Takeaways:

The Kremlin remains focused on promoting the purported legality and legitimacy of Russian internal politics despite Kremlin officials’ admissions to the contrary.

Peskov’s strong comments also indicate the Kremlin's desire to posture confidence and steadfastness against the backdrop of Kremlin concerns over Russian opinions on and support for Putin‘s invasion of Ukraine.

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations and reportedly advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast and near Bakhmut on October 9 amid reports of deteriorating weather conditions in Ukraine.

Russian forces reportedly launched localized offensive operations south of Hulyaipole, Zaporizhia Oblast, and may have reorganized the Southern Grouping of Forces, likely in an attempt to further defend against Ukrainian counteroffensive operations.

Imprisoned former Russian officer and ardent nationalist Igor Girkin reiterated his previous claims that the Russian military will continue to conduct a strategic defense to freeze the frontlines before the Russian presidential elections in March 2024.

The Russian government is moving toward revoking Russia’s ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty.

Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in western Donetsk Oblast, in the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas on October 9.

Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations near Bakhmut, in western Donetsk Oblast, and western Zaporizhia Oblast, and reportedly advanced in some areas.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 8:40 pm to
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This is ominous.

North Korea's state media has issued a a short statement saying that an "important report" is coming up.

The initial dispatch was sent at 7:28 a.m.

Nothing yet, but it is, rather unusual.

LINK
Currently 10:40 over there so probably a nothingburger, but posting just in case
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7681 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 8:48 pm to
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just in case


Just in case what?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Just in case what


They announce direct support for Russia and/or Hamas. Normally wouldnt pay any attention to it, just with everything going on just an odd time to make an announcement that you have an announcement especially a party aligned with Russia and Iran.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:17 pm to
Your intelligence reports rival the NSA. You're the next Snowden.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:02 pm to
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This is what Errerrwhere supports.


Funny. You obviously do not know what I support. But since you bring it up; I will tell you.

I support the US defending its own border. Defending it against illegal aliens, sex trafficking and a fentanyl epidemic.

I do not wish to join the immorality of most of the US politicians in defending borders of other nations before their own.

So, why would you want to take care of Ukraine's and Israel's before our own?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 5:23 am to
Senator Josh Hawley (R) Missouri calls for immediate divert of funds from Ukraine to Israel.

turn out the lights....

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 6:21 am to
Seen several reports of this from mainly pro Russian accounts

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Several Russian sources this morning talk about apparent Russian advancement in Avdiivka - reportedly they advanced 200m in the settlement which has seen active fighting since day 1 of the war. Battle continues. This is primarily reported by state-affiliated military reporters.

Simultaneously, other Russian sources describe a mass artillery barrage by Ukrainians near Robotyne and Verbove in preparation for another attack.

Both claims will be tested today.

LINK
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74850 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 6:31 am to
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You're the next Snowden.
Misspelled “Snowdon”.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:08 am to
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Senator Josh Hawley (R) Missouri calls for immediate divert of funds from Ukraine to Israel.


Why can’t we focus on our problems at home like sex trafficking before sending money to Israel ? Why are you ok with defending Israel’s borders before our own?
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 7:10 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17714 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:17 am to
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Senator Josh Hawley (R) Missouri calls for immediate divert of funds from Ukraine to Israel. turn out the lights....


No doubt Russia and Iran encouraged the attack in Israel. This only hardens my support for Ukraine. The US and Euro have enough resources to support both. Especially since Israel won’t need much due to their massive internal stockpile.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:20 am to
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Especially since Israel won’t need much due to their massive internal stockpile

You would think, but they had their hands out, asking the US for munitions, as soon as this thing kicked off.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 7:27 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:09 am to
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Especially since Israel won’t need much due to their massive internal stockpile.


They’ll run out of JDAMs if the war spreads to Lebanon. They’ll need to be resupplied.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20971 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:23 am to
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I support the US defending its own border. Defending it against illegal aliens


Nah. So many of those crossing into the US illegally are from Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. And those people are coming because Russia has propped up the Communists running those countries.

Any long-term solution to the problems in the Western Hemisphere require us to end Russia's malign influence in Latin America.

So, quit pretending that you care about the border crisis.

EDIT: Even besides the communist-controlled countries I mentioned above, the other countries in Latin America that are sending lots of migrants our way are messed up from left-wing agitators funded by Russia/USSR.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5649 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:56 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 10 October 2023

Russia's presidential election will take place on 17 March 2024. Russian President Vladimir Putin will almost certainly run again, despite having not yet publicly announced his intention to do so. There is speculation that Putin's election campaign will begin informally in November 2023.

While elections in Russia are subject to interference and control by the Kremlin, they remain a core tool of political legitimisation. It is almost certain that Putin's election campaign will focus on the theme of Russia as a separate civilisation in need of defence from external enemies - a narrative frequently used to justify the state's actions and Putin's consolidation of power.

In the build-up to the election, the Kremlin will almost certainly seek to minimise unpopular policy moves. It is therefore highly unlikely that any further mobilisation wave will be implemented before the March 2024 presidential election.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5649 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:11 am to
Russian Glider Bombs Are Hitting Ukrainian Positions with Impunity

Ukraine has received a lot of air defense systems but none of them are very useful in dealing with big numbers of newly fielded Russian glider bombs, many now potentially being used in Avdiivka.
by Stefan Korshak | October 10, 2023, 2:40 pm

The latest wave of 250 and 500 kg munitions, according to field reports, at least ten weapons, were dropped by Russian fighter bombers hitting Ukrainian positions around the Donetsk Region town of Avdiivka in the morning of Tuesday, Oct. 10.

In the afternoon Russian forces were reportedly attempting to encircle Avdiivka using “all means.”

“For over a year, there has been the danger that (Avdiivka) can be occupied, but now the situation has worsened rapidly,” said Vitaliy Barabash, head of the town's administration, AFP reported.

Kyiv Post

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26490 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:20 am to
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So, why would you want to take care of Ukraine's and Israel's before our own?


Having promised to guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty in exchange for them giving up their post Soviet nukes is no small matter for America, UK and Russia. Of course, if our word means nothing...
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:22 am to
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So, why would you want to take care of Ukraine's and Israel's before our own?


Who have we neglected at home due to a lack of funds?
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 11:18 am
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