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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:21 pm to
ISW Update

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Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut and advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 6. Ukrainian military sources noted that Ukrainian forces continued successful offensive actions south of Bakhmut near Andriivka (8km southeast of Bakhmut)

Russian forces appear to have recently conducted a regimental rotation in the Orikhiv area, demonstrating an ability to sustain their defenses in this critical sector of the frontline. A Ukrainian military observer reported on October 6 that elements of the 291st Motorized Rifle Regiment (42nd Motorized Rifle Division, 58th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District), which were recently “partially restored,” withdrew to positions east of Nesteryanka (about 10km northwest of Robotyne) after the Russian command previously committed them to the area.[5] The Ukrainian observer also suggested that elements of the 71st Motorized Rifle Regiment (also of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division) are ”persistently” counterattacking on the northern outskirts of Novoprokopivka (2km south of Robotyne)...ISW previously assessed that Russian forces were likely struggling to conduct tactical to operational level rotations along the entire frontline, but is revising this assessment considering the apparent rotation of substantial elements of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division and two VDV divisions to and from the frontline south of Orikhiv.

Russian forces reportedly resumed an offensive effort near Kupyansk on October 6, but the majority of the Russian forces reportedly deployed to this sector of the front likely remain combat ineffective. Ukrainian military officials reported a decrease in Russian activity near Kupyansk in recent weeks, but Ukrainian Eastern Group of Forces Spokesperson Captain Ilya Yevlash stated on October 6 that Russian forces resumed combat operations in the Kupyansk-Lyman direction.[11] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces launched an offensive push near Synkivka (8km northeast of Kupyansk) and that Russian forces are heavily shelling the N26 (Shevchenkove-Kupyansk) highway.[12] One milblogger characterized the renewed Russian offensive push towards Kupyansk as “large-scale” in a now-deleted post.[13] Ukrainian Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) Head Lieutenant General Kyrylo Budanov previously reported that the Russian military deployed elements of the newly formed 25th Combined Arms Army (CAA) (reportedly formed under the Eastern Military District) to the Kupyansk direction to replace elements of the 41st CAA (Central Military District)

Russian forces may be expanding military training infrastructure in occupied eastern Ukraine as part of ongoing efforts to increase the training and mobilization capacity of the Russian military. A Ukrainian reserve officer published satellite imagery on October 5 showing that Russian forces are expanding multiple training facilities in rear areas in occupied Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, including near Novopavlivka in occupied Luhansk Oblast.[17] The Ukrainian reserve officer stated that Russian forces are likely attempting to alleviate logistical bottlenecks and improve infrastructure to support continued mobilization and training.[18] Russian forces may be expanding training infrastructure in rear areas of occupied eastern Ukraine as part of the effort to establish nine reserve regiments, as well as ”self-sufficient” force groupings, in occupied areas of Ukraine as part of ongoing large-scale military reforms

The Kremlin’s continued attempts to deflect blame for the crash of Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plane crash and disgrace Prigozhin are generating continued praise for Prigozhin and efforts to defend his legacy among select information space communities. Pro-Wagner and Wagner-affiliated channels largely lampooned Putin’s suggestion on October 5 Prigozhin’s plane crashed due to grenades detonating onboard, possibly due to the passengers using alcohol or drugs onboard.[22] Some channels called Putin’s claims “laughable,” “a farce,” and disrespectful to “heroes” of Russia.[23] A Russian insider source claimed that members of the Russian Presidential Administration ”provoked” Putin to deliver these statements in order to “de-heroize” Prigozhin, since Prigozhin’s previous statements questioning the reasons for the start of the war in Ukraine are apparently gaining popularity throughout Russia.

Former Russian military commanders who participated in the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 reportedly remain in peripheral positions of some influence within the Russian military or defense-industrial base. A Kremlin-affiliated milblogger amplified a claim by a Russian insider source on October 6 that listed the current positions of Russian military commanders whom the Russian military leadership replaced after the initial invasion of Ukraine in 2022 failed to achieve its intended goals.[25] The source claimed that former Western Military District (WMD) Commander Colonel General Alexander Zhuravlev and former Southern Military District (SMD) Commander Army General Alexander Dvornikov are currently advisors to High Precision Complexes (a subsidiary of Rostec, Russia’s primary state-owned defense conglomerate) and the Almaz-Antey Aerospace Defense Concern (another state-owned defense enterprise), respectively. The source claimed that Dvornikov is still in “army circles” and hopes to return to the military. The source claimed that former Central Military District Commander Colonel General Alexander Lapin is currently the Chief of Staff of the Russian Ground Forces. The source claimed that former Eastern Military District (EMD) Commander Colonel General Alexander Chaiko served in Syria and the Russian General Staff after his dismissal as EMD commander but that his current position is unknown. Former United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defense Ben Wallace stated on October 1 that the Russian military leadership had removed all commanders who led major Russian units into Ukraine in February 2022

Russian forces conducted a Shahed-131/136 drone strike targeting port, grain, and border infrastructure in southern Ukraine on the night of October 5-6. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces launched 33 Shahed drones from Cape Chauda, Crimea and that Ukrainian air defenses shot down 25 of the drones.[28] The Ukrainian Southern Operational Command reported that the Russian strike damaged port infrastructure and a granary along the Danube River in Odesa Oblast, and geolocated footage published on October 6 indicates that the strike hit the Orlivka-Isaccea ferry crossing that connects Odesa Oblast and Romania.


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:22 pm to
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Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut and advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 6.

Russian forces appear to have recently conducted a regimental rotation in the Orikhiv area, demonstrating an ability to sustain their defenses in this critical sector of the frontline.

Russian forces reportedly resumed an offensive effort near Kupyansk on October 6, but the majority of the Russian forces reportedly deployed to this sector of the front likely remain combat ineffective.

Russian forces may be expanding military training infrastructure in occupied eastern Ukraine as part of ongoing efforts to increase the training and mobilization capacity of the Russian military.

The Kremlin’s continued attempts to deflect blame for the crash of Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plane crash and disgrace Prigozhin are generating continued praise for Prigozhin and efforts to defend his legacy among select information space communities.

Former Russian military commanders who participated in the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 reportedly remain in peripheral positions of some influence within the Russian military or defense-industrial base.

Russian forces conducted a Shahed-131/136 drone strike targeting port, grain, and border infrastructure in southern Ukraine on the night of October 5-6.

Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Lyman line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas.

Ukrainian forces conducted offensive operations near Bakhmut and advanced in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Russia has reportedly recruited up to several hundred Serbian nationals to fight in Ukraine.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:22 pm to
Don’t worry all you trump cockolds, they are already setting up a new enemy for us the others. They will attack and kill newly elected president trump in a massive attack upon the world. It’s been in the works for 30 years.

It’s complete utter bullshite but you dumb fricks will buy it lock stock and barrel
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21126 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:24 pm to
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Don’t worry all you trump cockolds, they are already setting up a new enemy for us the others. They will attack and kill newly elected president trump in a massive attack upon the world. It’s been in the works for 30 years.

It’s complete utter bullshite but you dumb fricks will buy it lock stock and barrel

I miss OML, for quality content like this.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 10:25 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5649 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:10 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 07 October 2023

On 01 October 2023, the Russian Black Sea resort town of Sochi was struck by uncrewed aerial vehicles for the second time in two weeks. Media reporting stated a helicopter landing site at Sochi Airport was damaged.

The previous attack on 20 September 2023 caused a large fire at an oil storage facility, near the airport. It was the first recorded strike on the area since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Sochi is a popular holiday destination, heavily associated with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and serves as the summer base for many of Russia's elite. Strikes near the city mark a further example of the war directly affecting Russia's population well away from the Ukrainian border.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:04 am to
Just because it's a possible flash point

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Iran will support Hamas "until the liberation of Palestine and Jerusalem".

"We welcome the Palestinian fighters," -said Rahim Safavi, an adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, quoted by Al Jazeera.

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Qatar says Israel alone is responsible for the ongoing escalation of violence and calls on both sides to exercise restraint - Reuters

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Official statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation:

"In Moscow, there is grave concern about the sharp escalation of the situation in the area of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

In this regard, we reaffirm our principled and consistent position that this conflict, which has lasted for 75 years, has no military solution and can only be settled by political and diplomatic means, through the establishment of a full-fledged negotiation process based on the known international legal foundation. This foundation envisions the creation of an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders with its capital in East Jerusalem, living in peace and security alongside Israel.

We view the current large-scale escalation as another highly dangerous manifestation of the vicious cycle of violence, which is a direct consequence of the chronic non-fulfillment of the relevant UN resolutions and its Security Council and the actual blocking by the West of the work of the Middle Eastern 'Quartet' of international mediators consisting of Russia, the USA, the EU, and the UN.

We urge both the Palestinian and Israeli sides to immediately cease fire, refrain from violence, show necessary restraint, and, with the assistance of the international community, establish a negotiation process aimed at achieving a comprehensive, lasting, and long-awaited peace in the Middle East."

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Horrible messages from Israel. My condolences to all those whose family and friends lost their lives in the terrorist attack. We believe that order will be restored and terrorists will be destroyed - Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the events in Israel.

"Israel's right to defense cannot be doubted. All the circumstances of this terrorist attack must be clarified so that the world knows and brings to justice everyone who incited the attack and helped organize it. Every life matters! We condemn every manifestation of terror," -the president of Ukraine emphasized .

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20971 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:11 am to
Thinking about the implications of the new Hamas vs Israel war:

- There is the immediate possibility of a much larger war between Israel and Iran. It's quite possible that Israel will strike Iranian facilities in the next few hours, and strike them hard. Hamas is backed by Iran and committing their slaughters today with Iranian weapons.

- The depths of Iran's new partnership with Russia will soon be tested. Israel may end up fully on the side of Ukraine in the Russo-Ukrainian war.

- Russia, Armenia, and Iran are all allies, while Azerbaijan and Israel are allies. With the Azeri-Armenian conflict not quite over, there is the possibility that Azerbaijan attempts a new attack on southern Armenia in order to try to establish a "land bridge" to Nakhchivan. Azerbaijan did much of its recent conquest of Karabakh with Israeli weapons.

- Expect Iranian proxies in Syria and Iraq to attempt new attacks on US troops in those places.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:12 am to
The Israelis don’t play. They got caught off guard with this attack but you can bet your arse there’s going to be a reprisal in force for what just happened. They already have F-16s delivering air strikes in return while they get their ground forces moving. Iron Dome got overwhelmed with the amount of rockets shot into Israel all at once. If you know anything about the Iron Dome you know that has to be a shitload of rockets to overwhelm those systems.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 8:16 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:13 am to
Does Israel have F35s?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:14 am to
Yes 2 squadrons of F-35s so far with another 4-5 squadrons on order. The F-16 and F-15 are still the backbone of their air arm though. They recently received their first squadron of F-15 Strike Eagles also.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 8:18 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:16 am to
Just wondering if this is going to be the first time we see what the F35 is really capable of, if they go at Iran
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:20 am to
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Just wondering if this is going to be the first time we see what the F35 is really capable of, if they go at Iran



That would be a lot of airspace to get permission to cross to not piss off currently "neutral" parties
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28570 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:21 am to
This attack on Israel is horrifying.

So I guess our resident Russians will start saying that there will only be peace when Israel stops defending its land and people.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:21 am to
It’s possible. There’s a lot that goes into where and how they strike back but the amount of damage and dead that has happened to civilian targets right now honestly anything can happen. Iran has nothing they can put in the air against the IAF and the Israelis have some of the very best pilots on earth that train closely with us. So to answer your question if they decide to use air strikes on Iran itself I would expect the aircraft to be used would be the F-35 and the F-15 Strike Eagles. But again, a lot would have to go into a strike on Iran. There’s a lot red tape with that issue but they will respond in kind for what happened, that much is absolutely certain. A whole bunch of Israel ground forces had their cell phones ringing to get their arse to base and get geared up.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 8:25 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:29 am to
Yeah, it would be messy. But this is bad, and Israel isn’t known for just taking shite.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20971 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:36 am to
Israel has been able to strike Damascus recently, indicating that they are not afraid of Russian air defense. I also don't think that Iraqi F-16s or Su-25s would try to do anything to stop Israeli attack jets.

There would certainly be dramatic diplomatic consequences of an Israeli attack on Iran, but I think that Israel has the military ability to conduct whatever strikes they want.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:39 am to
The “over extension” goes both ways, and Russia is absolutely not in a position to start fricking with Israel.

Especially with these videos coming out. If you think China is being “cautious” to support Russian aggression in Ukraine, they absolutely wont do shite to help Russia if they impeded Israel after this.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:40 am to
Israel CAN’T take shite, they are surrounded by unfriendly areas. They have no choice but to take a hard line when shite like this happens. Remember though in Israel you have a small ground force that are always on active duty but they have many many more that are like reservists in our country that they are trying to get in gear right now. That takes a little time but by this afternoon they will all be called to base.The Palestinians have taken hostages to basically use as human shields and drug them over the border. That’s not going to end well for Palestine because Israel is going to come across in force and they have every right to do it now.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:44 am to
They do and they are not scared of Russian air defenses one bit. The Iraqis won’t do anything, they want to stay out of this shitstorm. Iran however is going to get some kind of response and there’s not much they can do about it but Palestine is going to really feel Israel here shortly.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20971 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:49 am to
I can't see any way that this ends except with Israel re-occupying Gaza. They can't just go into Gaza for a raid. From their point of view, it's now obvious that the decision to leave Gaza was a big mistake.
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