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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:12 pm to notiger1997
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:12 pm to notiger1997
The 2nd assault batallion of the already famous 3rd separate assault brigade cleared positions of Russian Storm-Z units and the 72nd Separate Motor Rifle Brigade.
"This operation lasted more than 12 hours, the Russians were pushed back 1,800 meters. They tried to counterattack, but ended up being completely defeated and demoralized. Neither reserves nor artillery helped."
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Donbas Canal west of Andriivka.
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"This operation lasted more than 12 hours, the Russians were pushed back 1,800 meters. They tried to counterattack, but ended up being completely defeated and demoralized. Neither reserves nor artillery helped."
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Donbas Canal west of Andriivka.
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:14 pm to jfan244888
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Anyone else surprised that mine clearing items are missing from that list ,,?
Look again. Third item on the list.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:16 pm to jfan244888
Russia threatens all ships heading to Ukrainian ports after midnight
"Economichna Pravda" — Wednesday, 19 July 2023, 18:54
Russia will consider all ships, regardless of flag, heading to Ukrainian ports from midnight on 20 July as involved in a military conflict.
Source: Russian Defence Ministry report, quoted by the Russian media
Details: The Russian Defence Ministry reported that informational warnings were issued about the withdrawal of safety guarantees to seafarers in connection with the termination of the Black Sea Grain Initiative.
Quote: "On 17 July, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation announced that the termination of the 'grain initiative' means the withdrawal of shipping safety guarantees, as well as the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor and the closure of the Joint Coordination Centre (JCC) in Istanbul," Russian media reported.
"From 00:00 Moscow time on 20 July, all vessels travelling to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea will be considered potential carriers of military cargo," the report reads.
Details: The Defence Ministry also stated that "the flag countries of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of Kyiv".
"Economichna Pravda" — Wednesday, 19 July 2023, 18:54
Russia will consider all ships, regardless of flag, heading to Ukrainian ports from midnight on 20 July as involved in a military conflict.
Source: Russian Defence Ministry report, quoted by the Russian media
Details: The Russian Defence Ministry reported that informational warnings were issued about the withdrawal of safety guarantees to seafarers in connection with the termination of the Black Sea Grain Initiative.
Quote: "On 17 July, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation announced that the termination of the 'grain initiative' means the withdrawal of shipping safety guarantees, as well as the curtailment of the maritime humanitarian corridor and the closure of the Joint Coordination Centre (JCC) in Istanbul," Russian media reported.
"From 00:00 Moscow time on 20 July, all vessels travelling to Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea will be considered potential carriers of military cargo," the report reads.
Details: The Defence Ministry also stated that "the flag countries of such ships will be considered involved in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of Kyiv".
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:19 pm to cypher
could be their biggest frick up of the war if they back that up
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:22 pm to cypher
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This is a terrorist act not against Ukraine, but against the whole world," he stated. "If we cannot export food, then the population of the poorest countries will be on the verge of survival."
This sucks. And with news that Russia may target merchant ships, they are about to FAFO.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:24 pm to GOP_Tiger
Yep my mind skipped right over that. 
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:24 pm to riverdiver
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In fact, if you read your own link, that’s just an estimate from the CBO. Nothing firm, nothing binding.
Have you got better information? If so present that instead of being a boo bird sitting on the fence.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:30 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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But it doesn’t answer the question. Why is the Ukrainian counteroffensive not yielding the results expected
Obviously Ukraine doesn’t have everything necessary to roll back the Russians who have had all winter and spring to entrench.
They certainly lack air power, engineering and mine removal, and enough well trained and battle tested soldiers.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:31 pm to GOP_Tiger
Port and harbor security seems like a new item.
Any guess what that is? I'm sure we'll know soon enough.
Any guess what that is? I'm sure we'll know soon enough.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:34 pm to cypher
Did we ever get any information on what Russia might have offered Turkey for them to back off in their pledge to protect grain shipments?
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:40 pm to notiger1997
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This sucks. And with news that Russia may target merchant ships, they are about to FAFO.
They are going the route of Germany in WW1/WW2.
But Ukraine are the real Nazis!
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:46 pm to cypher
Theory: Russia is using the threat of refugees to strongarm the end of the war.
If a global famine happens, refugees will flood into Europe like never before. As they get overrun, those countries shift further to the right politically, which brings more isolationist policies.
So they’re using refugees as a weapon to starve Ukraine of aid.
If a global famine happens, refugees will flood into Europe like never before. As they get overrun, those countries shift further to the right politically, which brings more isolationist policies.
So they’re using refugees as a weapon to starve Ukraine of aid.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:49 pm to jfan244888
Easy to see who the real warmongers are…
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:02 pm to riverdiver
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Why is the West so hell bent on refusing to negotiate an end to the killing?
Be honest, what’s there to negotiate?
Russia wants Ukraine and Ukraine wants Russia out. Both have proven over time that they will sacrifice their men and resources to achieve their goals.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:10 pm to doubleb
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Have you got better information? If so present that instead of being a boo bird sitting on the fence.
What do you think the word “estimate” means?
They’ll blow through that support, then need more…much earlier than the “estimate” that the allotted funds should last until 2026.
You happy with your tax money being wasted?
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:10 pm to doubleb
Ukraine claims more forward movement near Bahkmut.
Russian forces were pushed out from their positions near the village of Orikhovo-Vasylivka, lying northwest of Bakhmut, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces spokesperson Andrii Kovalov said on July 19.
"During the hostilities, the Russian occupiers were forced to retreat from their positions northeast of Orikhovo-Vasylivka," the spokesperson said.
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Russian forces were pushed out from their positions near the village of Orikhovo-Vasylivka, lying northwest of Bakhmut, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces spokesperson Andrii Kovalov said on July 19.
"During the hostilities, the Russian occupiers were forced to retreat from their positions northeast of Orikhovo-Vasylivka," the spokesperson said.
LINK
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:13 pm to doubleb
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Be honest, what’s there to negotiate?
Their only answer is "Ukraine has to give up more territory, demilitarize, and promise to never join NATO" which is of course completely ridiculous b/c that would mean that Russia will just do this all over again in 5-10 years.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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It’s not. The majority of weapons and equipment are new in box.
A new in the box VCR is still obsolete.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:25 pm to DabosDynasty
If it can kill it is not obsolete.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:26 pm to riverdiver
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You happy with your tax money being wasted?
As if wasted tax dollars hasn't been the status quo for everyone here for our entire lives. Nevermind that I don't agree that they're being wasted in this case, why is this the thing that has you guys all aflutter? You guys suddenly pretending to give a shite about things like infrastructure and helping "everyday Americans" is as hilarious as it is transparent.
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