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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:47 pm to
Why would Ukraine need to collect Russian dna?

Couldn’t someone just, like, order a Russian bride or something if this was the goal?

Who is the actual targeted consumer of this bullshite?
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 4:48 pm
Posted by ticklechain
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:53 pm to
+1
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Why would Ukraine need to collect Russian dna?

Couldn’t someone just, like, order a Russian bride or something if this was the goal?

Who is the actual targeted consumer of this bullshite?


It's funny, because Russians constantly claim that Ukrainians are really Russians who have been brainwashed into hating their supposed mother country.

That particular bit couldn't be Russian propaganda, because everyone in both Russia and Ukraine would see how stupid it was, because they all agree that Ukrainians and Russians are genetically similar. It has to be just a Politard American idiot.
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26469 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:07 pm to
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It's funny, because Russians constantly claim that Ukrainians are really Russians who have been brainwashed into hating their supposed mother country.

That particular bit couldn't be Russian propaganda, because everyone in both Russia and Ukraine would see how stupid it was, because they all agree that Ukrainians and Russians are genetically similar. It has to be just a Politard American idiot.


Both came from the Kievan Russ mixture of Scandinavian rulers and Slavic people. The real divide started when the cousins in Moscow betrayed their leadership in Kiev to the Mongols.

Then too Stalin oversaw the liquidation of 5 or 6 million Ukrainians by "exile" or forced starvation in the 1930's. I'm sure a little thing like that has all been forgotten and full trust reestablished.

This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 5:15 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:20 pm to
Lots of this kind of comment on Russian channels now:
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Kherson direction

Air defense is on alert, the enemy is plotting something.

The lads are at the forefront, the enemy still wants to somehow break through the coastal line of defense.


There's a real sense of anticipation that Ukraine is about to attempt to increase its activity on the left bank of the Dnipro.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:29 pm to
RFK Jr. was on Lex Fridman about a week ago and I watched as much as I could stomach (about half an hour). He regurgitated the "Ukraine is losing 7x as many men as Russia" nonsense and I learned what I needed to know about him. The Russian DNA Biolab nonsense doesn't surprise me a bit. What a weird alliance out there on the fringes.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 5:48 pm to
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Who is the actual targeted consumer of this bullshite?


quote:

Checked the PT board. Yep. GumboPot had a post about it. LOL


Somehow I am entirely unsurprised
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 6:14 pm to
I swear he was also parroting some random "source" that claimed Ukraine had 300k KIA and 350k WIA minimum and Russia has only suffered 65k KIA...this war wouldn't have lasted this long with those numbers but people slurp it up as fact
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14807 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 6:24 pm to
They believe what they want to believe.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1134 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 7:07 pm to
Greenlit has Bern given to start F-16 training.

LINK

The president has given a green light and we will allow, permit, support, facilitate and in fact provide the necessary tools for Ukrainians to begin being trained on F-16s, as soon as the Europeans are prepared,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.”

Looking at least a tear for Ukraine to complete the training correct?
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:15 pm to
I know getting the F-16s will be a big deal. Just curious how these will work out in a war zone set up such as this where Russia has so many air defense systems all over?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2867 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:20 pm to
Roughly 5x as many Shermans made as well.. per wiki
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:21 pm to
RFK2 is a hero and a speaker of truth. Not surprising that neocons dislike him.
This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:24 pm to
I want everyone to read this and just appreciate how insane the poliboard has gotten.

You’re a neocon if you don’t think Ukraine has biolabs deigned to farm Russian DNA to create a bio weapon.

Words have become utterly meaningless.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150128 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:25 pm to
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I want everyone to read this and just appreciate how insane the poliboard has gotten.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37518 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:28 pm to
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RFK Jr. was on Lex Fridman about a week ago and I watched as much as I could stomach (about half an hour). He regurgitated the "Ukraine is losing 7x as many men as Russia" nonsense



It is wild how all over the place the man really is. Totally rational about the need to roll back state and corporate power over individuals. But seems to consistently seek out and believe alternative facts about things ranging from nuclear power to vaccinations.

You'd think the fact that Russia is massively larger, was repulsed from Kiev, and is clearly grinding in a war of attrition against a much smaller enemy would erase the seven to one stuff but no. Sometimes smart people believe things too dumb for dumber people to think about.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30448 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:29 pm to
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You’re a neocon if you don’t think Ukraine has biolabs deigned to farm Russian DNA to create a bio weapon.


The crazy part is to get DNA from the ethnicity Putin actually cares about all they would have to do is roll up their sleeves for the phlebotomist.
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:39 pm to
My guess? The be used used primarily for the guided munitions they can carry. Also they can easier integrate with NATO missiles/other guided bombs. The F-16 can supposedly track the long range missiles Russia is launching to hit civilians much better than the Mig's/Su-25.

They aren't going to be dogfighting Su-35s. But if they do find them away from AA range they can at least engage much farther way than the Mig-29 they are flying now as well.

Ukraine will use them in the best that ensures their survivability. Much like Himars, getting one destroyed will not be a good look, and Russia will of course celebrate it. The question is which version will they get? The F-16A/B are most common, but they are also the oldest. The C/D are the more modern versions.

I'm still curious why Ukraine hasn't requested additional helicopters other than additional Russian ones they currently fly? Given the initial success the Russian had using their attack helicopters wonder why Ukraine doesn't want to try them?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26469 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

I know getting the F-16s will be a big deal. Just curious how these will work out in a war zone set up such as this where Russia has so many air defense systems all over?


Poland gave Ukraine their Mig 29s that had been retrofitted to fire American HARM, radar seeking, missiles. That may be what happened to Russia's counter battery fire.
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