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Posted on 6/26/23 at 10:42 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 10:42 am to
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This is the beginning not the end of all this.


Some situations Progozhin needs to avoid:

1) a barber’s chair.
2) a revolving door
3) elevators
4) in bed with hookers
5) tall steps
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 11:05 am to
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4) in bed with hookers


This would take a lot of willpower in Belarus
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3596 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 11:05 am to
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Some situations Progozhin needs to avoid:



Windows... you forgot windows...

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105479 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 11:11 am to
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Versta reports that the camp will have the capacity to house 8,000 Wagner fighters


If I'm a Wagnerite, I'm doing everything I can to stay out of that camp. Something tells me once they're concentrated there, they're not coming out.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 11:25 am to
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If I'm a Wagnerite,


There may or may not be a deal with Prig, but the day to day leadership of Wagner has to be shitting bricks. Nobody gives a shite about the privates but the guys running the show cant be allowed to live.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32815 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 11:32 am to
Also cologne…Eau de Polonium
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 11:46 am to
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If I'm a Wagnerite, I'm doing everything I can to stay out of that camp. Something tells me once they're concentrated there, they're not coming ou


Remember Josey Wales?
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 11:51 am
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1166 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 12:05 pm to
$500 million aid package from the US tomorrow. Mostly ground equipment based.

Replacement Bradley's?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21029 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 12:06 pm to
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$500 million aid package from the US tomorrow. Mostly ground equipment based.

Replacement Bradley's?


Reuters

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WASHINGTON, June 26 (Reuters) - The United States plans to announce as soon as Tuesday a new military aid package for Ukraine worth up to $500 million, keeping up U.S. resolve to help Ukraine against Russia as Moscow deals with a mutiny by some of its soldiers.

The package will include ground vehicles as Ukraine presses its counteroffensive, two U.S. officials said. Expected to be included are 30 Bradley fighting vehicles and 25 Stryker armored personnel carriers, one of the officials said.

As a part of the aid package, Ukraine will receive munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), anti-tank weapons including Javelins and munitions for Patriot and Stinger anti-aircraft systems, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The package was still being finalized and could change, they said. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The package would be funded using Presidential Drawdown Authority, or PDA, which authorizes the president to transfer articles and services from U.S. stocks without congressional approval during an emergency. The material will come from U.S. excess inventory.

The security assistance package would be the 41st approved by the United States for Ukraine since the Russian invasion in February 2022, for a total of more than $40 billion.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:07 pm to
New Message from Prig, nothing really new here.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1673349336585871362
quote:

Prigozhin recorded his first audio message after his march. Main points:

?? Wagner PMC was to cease existing on 1st July 2023 due to ministry of defense manipulations;

??First the mercenaries planned to transfer their military equipment to MoD in Rostov on 1st July, but then a missile attack was performed on their camps (Prigozhin says about 30 mercenaries died - earlier he said about "thousands" of losses)

?? their "Justice march" (as Prigozhin calls it) has demonstrated huge problems with security in Russia - Wagnerites had no resistance;

??Russian people support Wagner and asked them to continue;

??Mercenaries did not intend to overthrow the regime in Russia.


Translated video at this link
https://twitter.com/vidtranslator/status/1673347524424503297
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 1:08 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:12 pm to
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Summary of Prigozhin's 26 June address to clarify the situation: it was to demonstrate protest against the "destruction of PMC Wagner, not toppling the Russian authorities":

What were the prerequisites for the March for Justice?
- PMC Wagner carries out tasks around the world. It was meant to stop existing on 1 July 2023. “Employees” all refused to sign the contract with MoD, only 1-2% decided to join the Russian army.

- The original plan was to go to Rostov on 30 July and transfer all vehicles to MoD, which were ready for transport.

- Despite any aggression, Wagner suffered a missile attack, followed by helicopter attack. Around 30 PMC Wagner fighters died. This triggered an immediate decision to move out early and respond militarily.

- Throughout the 24-hour march, one column went to Moscow, another to Rostov. They made 780 km of progress in one day. They regret being forced to attack the army aircraft but the bombs were dropped which caused the response. During the march, all military objects on the way were blocked and disarmed. None of the military have died on the ground.

- The objective was to not allow destruction of Wagner and take to responsiblity those who with their unprofessional actions made a huge number of mistakes during the SMO. All the military met along the way supported this.

- Wagner stopped when the advanced storm unit deployed artillery, conducted reconnaissance and realised a lot of blood will be shed in an upcoming battle. They decided that demonstration of the protest was enough, and turned around.

- Factors that made Wagner turn around: first, they didn’t want to shed Russian blood. Secondly, they wanted to demonstrate their portest, not overtake the authority in Russia.

- Lukashenko offered to find solutions for further legal operation of Wagner legally. Columns turned aroound and went back to field camps.

- The march showed many things demonstrated before. Serious secruity concerns around the country. All military bases and airfields were blocked.

- If actions on 24 Feb 2022 were done by forces as trained as Wagner, the special operation could have ended in 1 day. This shows the level of organisation that the Russian army should be following.

Audio: t.me/concordgroup_o…

The guy's backtracking on his origian goals real bad here, also says Wagner didn't kill any Russian military "on the ground", which is false, according to reports.

Also, what sort of "legal framework" can Luka provide?

LINK

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Igor Girkin citing a Russian combat officer on the front in Ukraine

"Everyone, especially officers, hates Shoigu and Gerasimov. Their authority in the troops is absent and even minus. Their very presence is a demoralizing factor"

LINK

quote:

"PMC Wagner will retain their structure and combat training. PMC Wagner will continue to be a reserve force in the event of an uncontrollable situation in Russia, a source in PMC Wagner says" - Brief

t.me/rusbrief/130536

LINK

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#Hungary again blocked a tranche of military aid to #Ukraine from the #EU.

"We are ready to change our decision if the Ukrainians put an end to the situation when Hungary's largest bank is on the list of war sponsors," Hungarian Foreign Minister Szijjártó said.

LINK

quote:

#Poland will transfer a large batch of weapons to #Ukraine: thousands of assault rifles and millions of rounds of ammunition.

"Soon we will begin supplying weapons for the National Guard of Ukraine, for the assault brigades of the #Ukrainian police and the Border Guard Service. This will be thousands of automatic rifles, millions of rounds of ammunition, which will allow the Ukrainian defenders, defenders of Europe to fight effectively," Polish Interior Minister Mariusz Kaminski said.

LINK

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#Latvia stops issuing any visas to #Russians from July 26 due to "unpredictable developments in domestic political events in #Russia."

First response says it's June not July but can't confirm
LINK

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The local zoo in #Rostov is on fire. Animals and employees are getting evacuated.

LINK

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Currently, there is no data to confirm the information about the construction of a camp for the PMC Wagner in the Asipovichy district, Belarus.
1/6

Today, the Russian media Wyorstka reported that construction of a camp for Wagner mercenaries allegedly began in the Asipovichy district. It’s said that the journalists received confirming comments in the forestry and a source “close to the administration of Mahiliou region.”
2/6

The text says that there will allegedly be several camps for 8000 mercenaries and that the current camp area is 24,000 square meters.
In addition, the post says that several relatives of the PMC Wagner mercenaries confirm that they will be sent to Belarus.
3/6

What can the Belarusian Hajun say?
As of 17:30 26.06, we can definitely say that in the past 24 hours there has been no activity in the Asipovichy district, not to mention the construction of such a large facility.
4/6

The data of a foreign (Russian) edition that they were able to get comments from sources close to the administration of Mahiliou region are questionable. However, Belarusian independent media haven’t received such comments and haven’t confirmed this information yet.
5/6

As for the possible transfer of the PMC Wagner mercenaries to Belarus, we will be able to confirm or deny this information by direct observation. Currently, there are no PMC columns moving to Belarus or that are already in Belarus.
We continue to monitor the situation.
6/6

LINK

quote:

Footage has emerged of the bombing of a highway near #Voronezh during the movement of the #Wagner PMC convoy towards #Moscow.

LINK

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Prigozhin’s plane flew from Rostov to St. Petersburg after the mutiny ended, independent Russian outlet iStories reports

t.me/istories_media…

LINK

quote:

??The USA was ready for a number of scenarios in connection with the recent events in russia, –– Joe Biden commented on the mutiny of the leader of the Communist Party "Wagner" Prygozhin.

The US president also made a number of statements:

- The USA and the West in general were not involved in the attempted rebellion in the russian federation.
- On June 26, new telephone consultations will be held with other Western leaders regarding the situation in the russian federation.
- The USA has assured Ukraine that it will continue to provide assistance regardless of the development of events in the russian federation.

??Follow
@Flash_news_ua

LINK

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105479 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:24 pm to
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PMC Wagner will continue to be a reserve force in the event of an uncontrollable situation in Russia


Hmm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

that several relatives of the PMC Wagner mercenaries confirm that they will be sent to Belarus.
3/6


The British playbook during the Boer War.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61743 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:28 pm to
Wonder how many dummies from the other board still think this was a hoax or something?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:30 pm to
CIA op
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11914 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Maybe the missile attack did actually happen. Who knows?


Very well could be true, but it seems like the MoD guys were about to get Wagner under the MoD thumb and thus it smells more like a rationalization than a reason to me. Is there any confirmation that there was any missile strike?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105479 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
There was video of some broken trees in a forest. That's all I saw.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Wonder how many dummies from the other board still think this was a hoax or something?


Group A: USA Hoax

quote:

Dear Mr Putin.....they have offered me 7 billion for a coup..

DO THE COUP THEN!!!

Yes sir......

Dear Mr Putin - Our Troops have reached Moskva and they have paid the 7 Billion

Excellent - You may keep 1 billion now turn around and leave...

Yes Sir...On my way!!



Group B: It's real
quote:

quote:

Is he even alive?



No idea. I really don;t care one way or the other. It's interesting though.

Putin is known for killing off people that have left Russia after opposing him. To agree to this is death. Noway Putin can afford to allow him to live.


Group C: USA Hoax and Russia is stronger for it
quote:

Putin stronger, Wagner & it’s Neo-Nazi leadership is still in tact, Putin was able to oust some of his adversarial Generals who talked him into going after Ukraine, the Russian people rejoice because the Ukraine war is over with, and the US/West blew billions.

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

There was video of some broken trees in a forest. That's all I saw.


Don't forget the two campfires. Clearly a missile strike

I really don't buy the missile strike video, it just looks too fake to me. Then again, I'm not military and have no background so if I'm wrong I'm wrong.
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