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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/26/23 at 7:47 am to Chromdome35
Posted on 6/26/23 at 7:47 am to Chromdome35
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from reports on russian social media and the battle tracking i am doing the 810th is now on the line engaging or about to engage ukr forces....
the 810th is one of the LAST forces in the south that has any real firepower and is the current army res force in kherson..
its been beat bad every place its been so far in this war
If this is true, this is a very significant development. Any more updates on this since last night?
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Posted on 6/26/23 at 7:47 am to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
No, and wherever you’re getting that info from is not a reliable source.
You aren’t the first I’ve seen claim this. No idea where its coming from, but no.
You aren’t the first I’ve seen claim this. No idea where its coming from, but no.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 7:55 am to LSUnation78
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No, and wherever you’re getting that info from is not a reliable source.
You aren’t the first I’ve seen claim this. No idea where it’s coming from, but no.
While you can never discount the Russians doing something absurdly stupid, theres no chance of everything from the past week being a ruse to lure the Ukrainians into a nuclear trap.
Such a move would involve the Russians dropping a nuke on what they consider Russian soil. They’re not going to do that unless something develops like the Crisis of 1941 where Army Group Center was at the gates of Moscow.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 7:58 am to LSUnation78
A politard agreed with my sarcastic remark about Nuland being the mastermind. What percentage of Politards rode the short bus to school?
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:04 am to Darth_Vader
The thing is, its not like the ukrainians are funneling into one valley.
Its a 20km front just around Tokmak. Then theres Kherson, and the eastern front. So there is no “drawing them in”. If they wanted to use nukes they could just throw a bunch around now… they wont.
Im not convinced they wouldnt sabotage the ZPP. But thats a different story.
Its a 20km front just around Tokmak. Then theres Kherson, and the eastern front. So there is no “drawing them in”. If they wanted to use nukes they could just throw a bunch around now… they wont.
Im not convinced they wouldnt sabotage the ZPP. But thats a different story.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:07 am to LSUnation78
I was agreeing with you. The Russians are not long to nuke the Ukrainians here. If for no other reason, they won’t do it because it would radiate the land route that connects Crimea to the rest of Russia.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:21 am to LSUnation78
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Im not convinced they wouldnt sabotage the ZPP. But thats a different story.
I saw something about a false flag the other day, but I see that type of story run at least once a month. It's starting to feel like the boy who cried wolf
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:23 am to StormyMcMan
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Prigozhin was spotted at the Green City Hotel in Minsk, Belarusian opposition media reported.
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Prigozhin was spotted at the Green City Hotel in Minsk, Belarusian opposition media reported.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:25 am to StormyMcMan
Yea, im there with you. I dont buy the propaganda every time they say its about to happen (like right now)… i just dont think its completely outside the realm of possibility.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:29 am to Darth_Vader
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I was agreeing with you. The Russians are not long to nuke the Ukrainians here. If for no other reason, they won’t do it because it would radiate the land route that connects Crimea to the rest of Russia.
Other nations have frequently thrown it in our face that we used nukes. I’m not saying we were wrong, but our enemies use that fact against us for political reasons whenever they can.
I really don’t think Russia would use their nukes in Ukraine. They would for survival, but this isn’t about their survival as a nation.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:29 am to GOP_Tiger
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1673090716363366402
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My thoughts on the Kadyrovite execution of what they claimed was a Wagner fighter:
Note: I have no problem with anyone who chose to post the video since it is important for the world and history to see what Russia really is/was. I do, however, have serious problems with anyone who posts it and then does not act like an adult.
1) There is no way to tell if the soldier killed by the Kadyrovites was Wagner or some poor ChMobik that they decided to make a TikTok video with.
2) If Putin was involved, it was a huge mistake unless he convinced every one of the Wagnerites to surrender their arms. This will backfire seriously and you will see part two of the coup but in Ukraine as the remaining Wagnerites start going after the Kadyrovites, Russian Commanders and anyone else in their way.
3) I wrote earlier about Putin having two choices: going nuclear and hanging everyone he thinks is a traitor; or, firing Shoigu, blaming him for everything, and making Prigozhin a hero who saved Russia. If this video is correct, Putin chose the first option.
4) If Putin decided to kill all of the Wagnerites, Russia is going to collapse. The Wagner group are heroes to the Russian people for both their fighting skills and among the soldiers and much of the population for challenging Putin and Shoigu and the way they have needlessly killed 10's of thousands of them. This will also cause some of the regular army soldiers to revolt, surrender or join in the mutiny.
5) If the Kadyrovites did this on their own, which I currently doubt, then they may have tipped the war irreversibly in favor of Ukraine.
6) Putin always escalates.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:30 am to GOP_Tiger
It’s important to remember the distinction of Wagner vs Wagner supporters.
My understanding is those being executed are Russian soldiers who supported Wagner, not actual wagner soldiers.
I’m sure this is great for morale.
My understanding is those being executed are Russian soldiers who supported Wagner, not actual wagner soldiers.
I’m sure this is great for morale.
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 8:31 am
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:34 am to Chromdome35
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1) There is no way to tell if the soldier killed by the Kadyrovites was Wagner or some poor ChMobik that they decided to make a TikTok video with.
Doesn't matter. I'm rooting for the death of everyone siding with Russia that enters Ukraine with bad intentions.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:39 am to LSUnation78
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i just dont think its completely outside the realm of possibility.
Its difficult, but you have to look at this the way the Russians do.
"Russia" is a storefront for a massive criminal enterprise. Everything that has value or generates revenue (land, the "government", businesses, war) pay up the chain to whatever crime boss has control of that revenue stream.
Part of the "settlement" with Prig was to give him control over three "very productive" oblast. SO the Russians arent going to nuke a revenue stream. Even if its the front, people are making money. Money is power.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 9:06 am to Lakeboy7
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The Kazakh Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated today that the Russian Federation did not request any Military Assistance from the CSTO during the Rebellion by the Wagner PMC Group this past weekend.
LINK
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The Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sergey Lavrov announced that the Wagner PMC Group will continue to conduct Training and Combat Operations in Mali and the Central African Republic under the “Blessing” of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
LINK
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BREAKING: Russian independent media outlet Verstka reports that a camp will be built in the Mogilev region of Belarus to accommodate Wagner PMC fighters
Versta reports that the camp will have the capacity to house 8,000 Wagner fighters
A source close to the leadership of the Mogilev region confirms that they have been instructed to build a camp for Wagner fighters
The information that the mercenaries will be sent to Belarus is also confirmed by relatives
LINK
Posted on 6/26/23 at 9:09 am to Lakeboy7
Posted on 6/26/23 at 9:18 am to Lakeboy7
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"Russia" is a storefront for a massive criminal enterprise. Everything that has value or generates revenue (land, the "government", businesses, war) pay up the chain to whatever crime boss has control of that revenue stream.
Almost like _ _ _
Posted on 6/26/23 at 9:29 am to Pfft
This is based on Ukraine's claims, but you can clearly see the strategy here: Ukraine is using its newly provided counter-battery radars to wreak destruction on Russian artillery, after which it will be much easier for Ukrainian troops to advance.
Posted on 6/26/23 at 10:32 am to GOP_Tiger
Progozhin released an audio statement.
Maybe the missile attack did actually happen. Who knows?
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“Despite the fact that we did not show any Aggression, a Missile Attack was launched on us. 30 Fighters were Killed and others were Injured. This served as a trigger for our Immediate Advance.
Maybe the missile attack did actually happen. Who knows?
Posted on 6/26/23 at 10:34 am to Decatur
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Progozhin released an audio statement.
This is the beginning not the end of all this.
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