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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:18 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:18 am to
Napoleon was blinded by megalomania at the end like many a great conquerer. He was a legendary strategist in his prime.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 12:19 am
Posted by foosball
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:19 am to
Yevgeny Prigozhin net worth: 6.2 billion
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:20 am to
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Go back to page 2920 and read my post on what I think could be going on. There is another post I made on page 2930.



While I think it extremely unlikely Putin would be down there the timing of the strike claimed to be on a military HQ in Henichesk yesterday is good popcorn for the "what if" aspect of things.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:29 am to
quote:

While I think it extremely unlikely Putin would be down there the timing of the strike claimed to be on a military HQ in Henichesk yesterday is good popcorn for the "what if" aspect of things.


Maybe that strike really did leave a hole in the chain of command that Prig is trying to exploit?

The question I just keep asking is what could possibly be the end game for Prig in all this. He seems to have put himself into a corner where the only way out is an open window or control of Russia
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:34 am to
Maybe Putin sees this as a way out and sanctioned Prig to go after the MOD.

Putin removes the MOD leadership and uses the "they lied to me narrative" to end the war.

Seems a very low probability to me.

Or more likely put Prig over the MOD and amps up their war efforts.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 12:35 am
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:37 am to
We have an answer, Wagner just went to Rostov on Don to compete in some tank drifting

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672473742759321600 - Video
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:39 am to
at :20 of the video, that looks like a Wagner patch on his arm, but it certainly isn't definite.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:40 am to
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672478877019512832
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On the air of Russian Perviy Channel - it was announced that Putin's address should be expected at 9 o'clock in the morning...?? 23 minutes
Posted by LeClerc
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:40 am to
I’m going to bed but please wake me if RT plays Swan Lake.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:45 am to
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at :20 of the video, that looks like a Wagner patch on his arm, but it certainly isn't definite.



Looks to be partially obscured.

Interesting to see the reactions from the Pro-Russian twitter channels I monitor of events thus far, they have ranged from being relatively mute, taking a wait and see approach, or trying to draw attention away from footage by making comparisons of the cleanliness of Russian streets to US streets in it as somehow nullifying said footage.

One has also started claiming that Wagner is already withdrawing and this was just a demonstration.
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:49 am to
quote:

Wagner just went to Rostov on Don to compete in some tank drifting


Kamikaze drones would have been nice right about then.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:50 am to
With all the chaos now would be an excellent time for the USA (or NATO) to bomb the Kremlin and install someone to our liking there.
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:09 am to
Looks like Putin is going to speak shortly.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:11 am to
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Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:14 am to
Guessing Prig is off Putin's Christmas card list and on the Uranium tea list.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:29 am to
LINK

quote:

According to pro-Wagner channels, Wagner troops have entered Voronezh. When completed then it will bring the second Oblast's capital under Wagner's command.
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:33 am to
320 miles south of Moscow. Wow

Prig is really trying to be the DPR/LPR to Russia.

They are going to have to spend a lot of time to uproot these guys from these cities.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:34 am to
From the Russian MoD
https://t.me/SoVetBeZ/3258
quote:

Full text of the appeal of the Ministry of Defense to the soldiers of PMC "Wagner":

"You were tricked into Prigozhin's criminal adventure and participation in an armed rebellion.

Many of your comrades from several squads have already realized their mistake in asking for help in ensuring the ability to safely return to their places of permanent deployment.

Such assistance from our side has already been provided to all the fighters and commanders who applied.

We ask you to be prudent and get in touch with representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense or law enforcement agencies as soon as possible. We guarantee everyone's safety."
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:44 am to
quote:

320 miles south of Moscow. Wow

Prig is really trying to be the DPR/LPR to Russia.

They are going to have to spend a lot of time to uproot these guys from these cities.




quote:

The map was drawn by Osinters according to the Wagner channels, about the territory they control


https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672492623448121344
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:45 am to
Imagine if Blackrock took San Diego (11th largest city) and occupied Winston Salem (330 miles from Washington DC) with little resistance.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 1:52 am
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