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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/13/23 at 2:06 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105276 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 2:06 am to
The way he's eliminated potential rivals and surrounded himself with toadies, I lean toward dictator. OTOH he strikes me as not quite as rigidly obsessed as Putin, at least not yet.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:38 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 13 June 2023

In recent months, Russia has highly likely worked to ensure its long-term, high-volume supply of one-way-attack uncrewed aerial vehicles (OWA-UAVs). By supplying these weapons, Iran continues to breach UN Security Council Resolution 2231.

Russia has likely moved from receiving small deliveries of Iranian OWA-UAVs by air transport, to larger consignments by ship from Iran via the Caspian Sea. This 'International North-South Transit Corridor' has assumed much more importance since the invasion. It allows Russia to access Asian markets - including arms transfers - in ways it hopes are less vulnerable to international sanctions.

Russia is also working to start domestic production of OWA-UAVs, almost certainly with Iranian assistance. Russia is highly likely investing in OWA-UAVs because it provides Russia with a relatively cheap long-range strike capability at a time when it has expended a large proportion of its cruise missile stocks in Ukraine.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:45 am to
Air Force: Ukraine downs 11 Russian missiles, 1 drone overnight

Ukraine’s air defenses shot down 11 out of 14 Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles fired by Russian forces overnight, the Air Force reported on June 13.

Russia also launched up to four Iranian-made Shahed-136/131 drones, one of which was destroyed by Ukraine’s military, according to the report.

Russian missiles hit the city of Kryvyi Rih in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, resulting in three civilians killed and 32 wounded, according to the regional governor.

A five-story residential building and several civilian infrastructure facilities were damaged in Kryvyi Rih, said Serhii Lysak.

The Kyiv Independent

Update: 6 killed in Russian missile attack on Kryvyi Rih

Update 2:
The head of the Kryvyi Rih Military Administration Oleksandr Vilkul said this on Telegram, Ukrinform reports.

"As of 13.00, ten people were killed, one is under the rubble, 28 are wounded, 12 of them in moderate, serious and very serious condition in the city hospitals," he wrote.

This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 6:48 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:37 am to
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I truly do not understand Russia's strategy with these missile attacks on random Ukrainian population centers. What good does hitting an apartment building do for Russia? Why not attack military targets instead?


There are three factors:

1) Sometimes, a residential building can house Ukrainian troops

2) Russian gets bad intel and mismanages it

3) Some of their missiles and/or targeting are inaccurate


After a number of strikes such as this, one eventually reads that there is a military target nearby -- sometimes the adjacent building.

Yes, Russia does not really care if they hit civilian buildings and kill innocent people. But most of the time, it's simply that Russia is bad at doing what it tries to do.

Look at how many times during the GWOT the US bombed an innocent civilian house due to bad intel or bad targeting, and then multiply that times ten because of how much Russia sucks at all of this.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:14 am to
LINK

The 47th mechanized has taken brutal criticism in the wake of the photos showing all the dead Bradleys and Leopards. The commander has a video response (with subtitles).

He says that they only lost five men that night. He says that they have destroyed 18 Russian tanks in the last few days, two TOS-1As, and so many BMPs and other vehicles that he can't keep up with the count.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:29 am to
This guy has 158k followers who eagerly lap up the absolute BS that he regularly puts out.



EDIT: I decided to bold the "absolute BS" part. There is no evidence that Ukraine has advanced an inch towards Volnovakha -- that's just not the axis upon which Ukraine is attacking.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 8:50 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24850 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:36 am to
That is big news if true, but probably not.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 7:37 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38442 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:55 am to
quote:

since the Sino-Vietnamese War which means they have effectively zero combat experience in the entire military


shite, son. The Chinese been fighting the Indians up in the mountains with sticks, stones and shields for a few years now.

The leaked videos are fricking hilarious
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:39 am to
WSJ: US to provide depleted-uranium tank shells for Ukraine

by Martin Fornusek and The Kyiv Independent news desk June 13, 2023 4:11 PM

The U.S. is set to provide depleted-uranium tank shells after weeks of discussion, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) wrote on June 13, citing U.S. officials.

The Pentagon has reportedly long urged sending the depleted-uranium ammunition to Ukraine along with the scheduled 31 M1 Abrams tanks.

In the past, several White House officials raised concerns that the U.S. may become open to criticism for sending shells that may carry environmental and health risks, the WSJ wrote.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14223 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:05 am to
quote:

sending shells that may carry environmental and health risks,


We can use them for decades in the desert.

But might get criticized for environmental impact if we send any to Ukraine.




Lmao
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:08 am to
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In the past, several White House officials raised concerns that the U.S. may become open to criticism for sending shells that may carry environmental and health risks, the WSJ wrote.





This is the kind of shite the DoD has to deal with, and the State Dept.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40922 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:19 am to
Weapons and ammo pose a health risk??? Who'da thunk it?
Posted by Kansas City King
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2020
3674 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:30 am to
Video was just posted by "The Sun" on YouTube showing Russian troops in the process of capturing an abandoned Leopard 2A6 and a few Bradleys

YouTube
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:31 am to
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This guy has 158k followers who eagerly lap up the absolute BS that he regularly puts out.


Thanks for calling out BS from both sides, it's rare.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:32 am to
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If attacks on Russian territory continue, we will consider creating a 'sanitary zone' inside Ukraine - Putin

Translation: Putin is talking about a buffer zone on the Ukraine-Russia border, presumably in Kharkiv, Sumy and Chernihiv oblast

LINK

quote:

Russia submitted a bill to parliament pardoning all small and medium crimes of participants of the so-called "SMO".

Both professionals and mobiks will be exempted from criminal prosecution even if the crimes were committed before the law came into force. Those who receive state awards or retired from service will also be exempt.

The Russian army is becoming criminal not only de-facto but also de-jure.

LINK


quote:

??President of Poland Andrzej Duda called for NATO countries allow Ukraine to join. However, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron prefer to talk about security guarantees.

They spoke about this at a meeting of the heads of state and government of Poland, France and Germany, – the German news service Tagesschau writes.

LINK

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:19 am to
Putin says on TV:

quote:

“The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the counteroffensive amount to 160 tanks, we lost 54 tanks,” Putin said.


Video at LINK

Very interesting. That 54 tanks is more than Oryx has counted during this operation. [Edit: Oryx has not even counted to 10.] And I think that there are six or seven documented Ukrainian tank losses so far.

EDIT: Rybar also highlights other points from Putin's speech:
quote:

??For many years, the Russian Federation has helped Ukraine, providing it with food and supporting its economy.

The Russian state had nothing to do with the events in Donbas in 2014.

??Russia was deceived and betrayed by the Minsk agreements, the other parties were not going to fulfill them.

??In Ukraine, monuments to Lenin are being replaced by a fascist and scoundrel Bandera.

??Ukrainians violated all the agreements reached in March 2022 after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kyiv.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73585 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:19 am to
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WSJ: US to provide depleted-uranium tank shells for Ukraine


This is what we used in the First Gulf War. It will go though a T-72 like shite through a goose.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14223 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Ukrainians violated all the agreements reached in March 2022 after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kyiv.



Lol wut
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:35 am to
Girkin apparently did not enjoy Putin's speech. From his Telegram:

quote:

Today's speech by the Supreme Non-Commander to the military correspondents instantly dispelled all my restrained optimism, which arose from the results of the first week of the enemy offensive.

I cannot characterize him otherwise than in the words of Comrade Shvonder from The Heart of a Dog:

- "This is... some kind of shame!"


LINK

I really wonder how he is still alive.

EDIT: A few other bits of Girkin's thoughts, who appears to have done something of a live commentary on the speech:

quote:

Lord, who made up his speech? What a moron?
quote:

From the president's speech to the military commanders, one can (if we discard the verbal husk) "squeeze out" the main strategy of the leadership of the Russian Federation:

"If there is the slightest opportunity to do nothing, we will definitely take advantage of this opportunity!"

When Putin talked about a new monument park:
quote:

And there will be no mobilization. Monuments are better.

This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:51 am to
New Prigozhin video from @wartranslated:

quote:

Prigozhin gathered another meeting to discuss the current state of events, said the Ukrainian offensive is moving competently and carefully, not enough is being done to stop them.
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