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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 7:52 pm to
I don’t think Russia would tac nuke the front line because it won’t stop the war.

That’s the only reason I think if they use, it would be on Kyiv or Odessa.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

don’t think Russia would tac nuke the front line because it won’t stop the war.

That’s the only reason I think if they use, it would be on Kyiv or Odessa.


What makes you think using a tac nuke on Kyiv or Odessa would stop the war?
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

The biggest lie in that particular Theiner statement was that Ukraine had 35 brigades prepared for the offensive.


It depends what he is counting. Besides the AFU, there is National Guard and Border Guard. If you count all of them it could be closer to 45 brigades. AFU can take territory but not have to police it afterwards. However as noted they call any unit a brigade.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:56 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways

Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in at least three areas of the front and made territorial gains on June 10 and 11.

Ukrainian forces made visually verified advances in western Donetsk Oblast and western Zaporizhia Oblast, which Russian sources confirmed but sought to downplay.

Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated that Russian forces are transferring their most combat-capable units from the Kherson direction to the Bakhmut and Zaporizhia directions.

Russian forces conducted a limited series of drone strikes targeting eastern Ukrainian border areas overnight on June 10 to 11.

Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin characterized the Russian Ministry of Defense’s (MoD) plan to formalize volunteer formations by July 1 as an attack on him and his forces.

Russia and Ukraine conducted a near one-for-one prisoner of war (POW) exchange.

Russian forces continued limited ground attacks south of Kreminna.

Ukrainian and Russian forces continued limited ground attacks around Bakhmut and on the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.

Ukrainian forces made gains near the administrative border between Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts and in western Zaporizhia Oblast as of June 10.

Russian milbloggers claimed that rain along the Zaporizhia Oblast front may slow Ukrainian operations in the coming days.

The Republic of Chechnya reportedly formed two new regiments – Akhmat-Russia and Akhmat-Chechnya – equipped with commercially-available Chinese armored equipment.

Saboteurs, reportedly including Ukrainian partisans, conducted two discrete improvised explosive device (IED) attacks against railways in occupied Kherson Oblast and Crimea.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:06 pm to
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Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:11 pm to
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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:11 pm to
That has played over and over with several links for a few days now.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:19 pm to
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That has played over and over with several links for a few days now.



Sorry about that. I read every post in this thread and try not to repeat stuff, but I'll admit that I don't watch every video. But I also get a bit annoyed when people repost stuff for the 3rd time, so I'll try to be more careful.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24854 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:30 pm to
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conducted two discrete improvised explosive device (IED) attacks


Is that the normal way to describe them? idk. discrete I would assume is "hidden".
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:33 pm to
Truthfully? International hesitancy to escalate and a frank inability of UA to coordinate anymore.

I’m not as certain china would condemn Russia as others here are.

I am not saying I think Russia will do it, I’m saying that the next few weeks are probably the highest risk and I don’t see a big advantage for Russia to nuke the front lines.

UA cannot retaliate equally to this and I don’t believe Russia is moving tac nukes to Belarus for NATO alone.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11315 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 10:06 pm to
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Truthfully? International hesitancy to escalate and a frank inability of UA to coordinate anymore.

I’m not as certain china would condemn Russia as others here are.


I disagree, I think the international world would be forced to react and respond against Russia. And I think that would involve more than just new sanctions. Russia cannot survive a war with the west. The west knows it. Russia knows it. The world knows it. Something like that would be the end of Russia.

And while China might not outright condemn, they'd be forced into a position where they would need to stop supporting Russia. While there's no doubt China is a world power, if they outright side with Russia at that point theyd be left on an island to starve with Russia alone.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105280 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 10:13 pm to
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Russia and Ukraine conducted a near one-for-one prisoner of war (POW) exchange.


It's bizarre that they've continued exchanging prisoners throughout this conflict.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105280 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

>vehicle is called "Mine Resistant Ambush Protected"


It's resisiant and protected, not invulnerable. It gives the occupants a chance to survive over what would happen in an unprotected vehicle. It was never meant to be a substitute for an APC.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196538 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 10:17 pm to
China is a failing State Xi's Covid clampdowns, the Damage of the One child policy , The Propped up economy the emerging warlords the military being a separate country within a country economy within an economy citizenship within a citizenship


It all will explode and crumble in the next 10 years
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73588 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

don’t think Russia would tac nuke the front line because it won’t stop the war.


The sole purpose tactical nuclear warheads is to use on battlefield environments.
Posted by TitusCrow
Member since Mar 2020
74 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

discrete I would assume is "hidden".


you're thinking of discreet. discrete means separate.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24854 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 11:05 pm to
TY............
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
784 posts
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:58 am to
Ukraine is now posting video evidence of having liberated Storozheve which confirms earlier claims and reports.

quote:

Great way to start the day. Storozheve liberated




https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1668133287762571264 - Video in comments

Claimed to be geo-confirmed although the confirmation image isn't very good.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1668134226712051712


Edit: Removed illegible characters
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 1:28 am
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:42 am to
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1668139533009924098
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Russian military blogger Sladkov reports that the AFU is advancing towards Staromlynivka. He reports fierce battles in Urozhaine.


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Translation:
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Staromlynovskoe direction.
The enemy is advancing.
The settlement Urozhaynoye is defended by the OBTF "Cascade" (DPR). Units of the Ministry of Defense withdrew in an organized manner to the next line of defense. The military support the "Cascade" with artillery. There is no weather, aviation does not work. There are intense battles.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:44 am to
This is all over Russian social media. The Chechans signed a contract with the Russian MOD

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1668136855458422787
quote:

"Akhmat" signed the first contract defining the activities of volunteer units in the special operation zone.

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