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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:20 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:20 am to WestCoastAg
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Didnt you openly cheer over dead Ukrainian citizens
Absolutely not.
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:21 am to LSUPilot07
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30 million rounds of small arms ammo. That’s a shite ton of bullets
Not really man, everybody is on full auto and should be on select fire. A lot of Ukrainian soldiers dont even know they have select fire as an option...
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105 mm tank ammo.
These initially are surplus rounds but they will get some of the newer 105 rounds that are absolutely able to kill anything they will see with one shot.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:22 am to SirWinston
I seem to recall that you did. It wasn't unlike when you were a massive coward and threw away that cab driver's pray rug. Or those times you spent your entire trip to Europe eye-fricking random people you thought were Muslim.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:05 pm to Lakeboy7
Yeah I notice a lot of the videos of Ukrainian troops storming trenches when they get to points in the trench line where there is a blind turn they just hold their guns up above their heads and fire blindly on full auto around the corner and then run around the corner. I wasn’t infantry and don’t claim to know all the proper ways to take a trench or fortified position like we are seeing in this war but it would seem like the better option would be throwing grenades and then making their move in small 2-3 man teams with each man covering the other around the corner versus just blindly firing hoping for the best. You are right though, the way they use ammo no amount could probably ever be too much for them. The best gift we can give the Ukrainians isn’t tanks or f-16s, it’s proper training on a large scale. I know NATO countries trained around 30,000 for this offensive but if they could get 100,000-150,0000 troops properly trained that would make a world of difference compared to Russian conscripts who go to 10 day training then get sent to the front to attract Ukrainian bullets.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:55 pm to notiger1997
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Right on cue one hour after I showed that it is fake news
Of course there is a thread on the PT and they all think it’s 100% for sure from Ukraine.
Gotta hand it to the poli board they all 100% know what is truth and false on the internet and media within seconds. Wish we all had that power
Posted on 6/1/23 at 1:22 pm to StormyMcMan
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Gotta hand it to the poli board they all 100% know what is truth and false on the internet and media within seconds.
It is pathetic how they believe any claim that confirms their preconceived biases unquestioningly no matter how absurd.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 1:51 pm to StormyMcMan
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Gotta hand it to the poli board they all 100% know what is truth and false on the internet and media within seconds. Wish we all had that power
I’m constantly amazed how they can digest news in seconds and determine it’s legitimacy. They are great with polls too.
I read about a poll and scratch my head, but in less than a minute they can tell you if the numbers are real or fake.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 2:02 pm to doubleb
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I’m constantly amazed how they can digest news in seconds and determine it’s legitimacy.
Until the the OP is soundly debunked, none of the initial responders return with any comment, the thread dies, and the cycle begins again.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 2:13 pm to Chromdome35
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Bilhorod thread! The Russian Volunteer Corps and the Freedom Legion have entered the region again. Heavy battles are reported near Shebekino. Updates will be posted in this thread
IMO these are probably more likely to be Ukrainian commando/SF units than anti-Putin Russians but either way this is a huge embarassment for Russia IMO, and more important than the usual stuff about aid packages and what not. Think of the Doolittle raid and what that did for US (and Japanese) morale/confidence.
There are rumors online they've had to evacuate the town. It's not a small village either 40,000 people live there.
This war has been a catastrophe for Russia. Failed regime change, haven't taken the entire Donbass, 100k total casualties, pushed Ukraine completely into the western orbit (even if not officially in NATO or the EU by now they might as well be). Just an utter cluster!@#$
Posted on 6/1/23 at 2:16 pm to mattfromnj
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pushed Ukraine completely into the western orbit (even if not officially in NATO or the EU by now they might as well be). Just an utter cluster!@#$
Pushed Sweden and Finland two historically independent countries into NATO.
Got much of NATO off their collective asses.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 2:41 pm to CitizenK
quote:Looking at it right now, and there appears to be black bands on both sides of the yellow band, meaning live round.
Right on cue one hour after I showed that it is fake news
I mean, it's grainy but it appears to be there. . .and no less compelling than fat tiktok guy, or whatever.
And ftr, I really don't have much of an opinion on Ukraine or Russia. Either could conquer the other, I dgaf.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:11 pm to Roaad
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appears to be black bands on both sides of the yellow band, meaning live round.
I see it, its there. God be praised!!!!!!!!!!
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I really don't have much of an opinion on Ukraine or Russia.
"I dont care who wins" BUT GUYS LOOK, LLOK I found an old picture of an AT4 trainer in Mexico and one of the sites that conforms my bias (ok I do care who wins) said it was sold by the Ukrainians.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:18 pm to Roaad
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I mean, it's grainy but it appears to be there. . .and no less compelling than fat tiktok guy, or whatever.
I think what you see in the part of the video is some compression around the yellow, it isn't there in other parts of the video. It really doesn't matter because if you have ever seen the markings IRL the bands are wrong for a non-inert AT4. The black is wide and the yellow is more narrow. At least all the ones I have held, fired or seen close up. McBeth is former military which is more than I can say for a lot of OSINT Vloggers.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:35 pm to Obtuse1
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I think what you see in the part of the video is some compression around the yellow, it isn't there in other parts of the video. It really doesn't matter because if you have ever seen the markings IRL the bands are wrong for a non-inert AT4. The black is wide and the yellow is more narrow. At least all the ones I have held, fired or seen close up. McBeth is former military which is more than I can say for a lot of OSINT Vloggers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe these countries operate the AT-4 in South America.
Argentina
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Venezuela
It makes no sense to me why the Cartel would go through the trouble of getting an AT-4 all the way from Ukraine when they can get them in their backyard. However, maybe I am wrong about the above information.
edit: didn't FARC rebels in Venezuela have AT-4s back in 2009?
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:41 pm to Obtuse1
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all the ones I have held, fired or seen close up
Hang on, Winston is going to call you a "larper". To his credit in his world I'm certain nobody ever did any military things.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:45 pm to Lakeboy7
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Not really man, everybody is on full auto and should be on select fire. A lot of Ukrainian soldiers dont even know they have select fire as an option...
This isn't true at all.
ETA: I watch a lot of videos on r/CombatFootage and I have come away with the feeling that these guys rely way too much on grenades. They throw a shite ton of grenades while trying to take these trenches. Like another poster said, I have never been a grunt trying to take a trench or an occupied building, so I am not up on the latest tactics for these objectives. But I am not seeing a whole lot of "spray and pray" from the Ukrainian troops (or the Russians for that matter). Maybe a former grunt can weigh in on the thought process of carrying more grenades vs loaded mags or more mags vs less grenades. It just seems to me they are really leaning on the grenades. I know the engagement distances in Afghanistan/Iraq are night and day in difference compared to this conflict, but I've seen very few combat clips of US troops using grenades in actual combat vs what we are seeing now. Again, they throw a bunch of the things.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:55 pm to Lakeboy7
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"larper"
To be quite frank most military service is actually the very definition of LARPing, just LARPing with intent. The intent to prepare one for the short periods of time it is real.
Also in fairness to the markings they tend to change subtly or significantly from lot to lot and from era to era so the yellow band on high-octane AT-4s could be very different from my experience.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:57 pm to TacoNash
Because they are abundant and cheap? Just spitballing
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