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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:25 am to Chromdome35
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:25 am to Chromdome35
If the reports of missile debris showing they were recently manufactured are true, I’d think Russia’s stocks are not very deep.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:37 am to Chromdome35
Chromedome35 said:
The source is very much Pro Ukraine but does a decent job of refuting those questioning their projections.
Their response to those comments further in the thread question the fact the stock levels haven't changed much since March it comes down to how accurate the Ukrainian data on initial stocks and production levels are since the current stocks are from those two figures minus reported launches.
The contrarians do have a point regarding the validity of the data but there is also evidence pointing towards to it being somewhat accurate - Russia severely curtailed cruise missile use for much of the last 3 months and mainly relied on drone strikes during that period.
When coupled with the claims from the more recent strikes turning up debris indicating Q4 production dates this would indicate Russia regenerated its stocks during that period to enable the recent larger launches, most likely planning to catch Ukraine off guard due to the reports of their own low AD stocks and disrupt their counter offensive.
I also ran across this while going down the tangent above:
The GUR building in Kyiv looks to have been struck in the last several days at some point.
Note: This source is fairly biased towards Russia but has most of the main claims and talking points in the thread.
https://twitter.com/stellarman22/status/1663663624949202945
There are claims from Russian sources linked to seismic activity in that period that it was actually targeted at an underground bunker using a penetrator type munition hence the minor surface damage. There also some fairly big and thus far unsubstantiated claims that large numbers of senior staff were killed by it.
To my inexpert eye the damage looks far too superficial to have been much more than a drone strike - would a penetrator munition strike cause so little damage on the building as I would have thought the foundation would be severely undermined and there would be at least a partial collapse?
Edit: Clarity
quote:
I wonder how close to reality this is?
LINK
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Russia’s Long Range Missile Stocks based on Ukraine’s reporting as of May 31, 2023
Russia is currently estimated to have 194 Kalibr, X-101/Kh-555, Iskander, and Kinzhal missiles in stock
The source is very much Pro Ukraine but does a decent job of refuting those questioning their projections.
Their response to those comments further in the thread question the fact the stock levels haven't changed much since March it comes down to how accurate the Ukrainian data on initial stocks and production levels are since the current stocks are from those two figures minus reported launches.
The contrarians do have a point regarding the validity of the data but there is also evidence pointing towards to it being somewhat accurate - Russia severely curtailed cruise missile use for much of the last 3 months and mainly relied on drone strikes during that period.
When coupled with the claims from the more recent strikes turning up debris indicating Q4 production dates this would indicate Russia regenerated its stocks during that period to enable the recent larger launches, most likely planning to catch Ukraine off guard due to the reports of their own low AD stocks and disrupt their counter offensive.
I also ran across this while going down the tangent above:
The GUR building in Kyiv looks to have been struck in the last several days at some point.
Note: This source is fairly biased towards Russia but has most of the main claims and talking points in the thread.
https://twitter.com/stellarman22/status/1663663624949202945
There are claims from Russian sources linked to seismic activity in that period that it was actually targeted at an underground bunker using a penetrator type munition hence the minor surface damage. There also some fairly big and thus far unsubstantiated claims that large numbers of senior staff were killed by it.
To my inexpert eye the damage looks far too superficial to have been much more than a drone strike - would a penetrator munition strike cause so little damage on the building as I would have thought the foundation would be severely undermined and there would be at least a partial collapse?
Edit: Clarity
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 4:39 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:58 am to OutsideObserver
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 1 June 2023
On 27 May 2023, Russian opposition politician Boris Nadezhdin appeared on Russia's NTV channel and called for a new president to be elected in 2024, in order to rebuild normal relations with Europe.
Nadezhdin has been a vocal critic of the war since the invasion, but this is highly likely the first call for Putin to be replaced on Russian state-approved TV since it began.
In the last 15 months, Russia has introduced limitations on freedom of speech which haven't been seen since Soviet times. However, there is a realistic possibility that recent vitriolic rhetoric by nationalist figures such as Wagner Group owner Yevgeny Prigozhin is emboldening opposition figures to challenge taboo topics.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 1 June 2023
On 27 May 2023, Russian opposition politician Boris Nadezhdin appeared on Russia's NTV channel and called for a new president to be elected in 2024, in order to rebuild normal relations with Europe.
Nadezhdin has been a vocal critic of the war since the invasion, but this is highly likely the first call for Putin to be replaced on Russian state-approved TV since it began.
In the last 15 months, Russia has introduced limitations on freedom of speech which haven't been seen since Soviet times. However, there is a realistic possibility that recent vitriolic rhetoric by nationalist figures such as Wagner Group owner Yevgeny Prigozhin is emboldening opposition figures to challenge taboo topics.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 5:10 am to cypher
Russian troops try to strike Kyiv unexpectedly from short distance with superfast Iskander missiles - Air Force spox
01.06.2023 11:18
UKRINFORM
The spokesperson for the Air Force of Ukraine Yuriy Ihnat said this on the air of the national telethon "United News", Ukrinform reports.
"During attacks by Iskander, there is very little time for shelter. 300 kilometers is not enough distance for such a missile to approach. Iskanders are superfast, so the enemy uses them to give us a minimum of time to react," Ihnat said.
He clarified that the speed of the Iskander is 900 km per hour, and 300 km for such a missile is not much.
According to him, if ballistic missiles are flying from the Caspian Sea or the Black Sea, then there is about an hour to react and take cover. "Here we are talking about a matter of minutes. That is why the enemy wants to take us unexpectedly and hit us so that the air defense system cannot react," Ihnat said.
The spokesman added that the enemy tried to use other missiles, including S-400, but Iskanders are faster.
As reported, around 2:45 a.m. on June 1, the Russian occupiers continued a series of attacks on Kyiv. A total of 10 ballistic and cruise missiles of the Iskander type were fired from the northern direction - Bryansk region of the Russian Federation. The attack killed a 9-year-old girl, her mother, and another woman.
Kyiv cancelled all events planned for Children's Day on June 1.
The air defense forces of the Ukrainian Air Force destroyed all ten missiles: seven Iskander-M ballistic missiles and three Iskander-K cruise missiles.
01.06.2023 11:18
UKRINFORM
The spokesperson for the Air Force of Ukraine Yuriy Ihnat said this on the air of the national telethon "United News", Ukrinform reports.
"During attacks by Iskander, there is very little time for shelter. 300 kilometers is not enough distance for such a missile to approach. Iskanders are superfast, so the enemy uses them to give us a minimum of time to react," Ihnat said.
He clarified that the speed of the Iskander is 900 km per hour, and 300 km for such a missile is not much.
According to him, if ballistic missiles are flying from the Caspian Sea or the Black Sea, then there is about an hour to react and take cover. "Here we are talking about a matter of minutes. That is why the enemy wants to take us unexpectedly and hit us so that the air defense system cannot react," Ihnat said.
The spokesman added that the enemy tried to use other missiles, including S-400, but Iskanders are faster.
As reported, around 2:45 a.m. on June 1, the Russian occupiers continued a series of attacks on Kyiv. A total of 10 ballistic and cruise missiles of the Iskander type were fired from the northern direction - Bryansk region of the Russian Federation. The attack killed a 9-year-old girl, her mother, and another woman.
Kyiv cancelled all events planned for Children's Day on June 1.
The air defense forces of the Ukrainian Air Force destroyed all ten missiles: seven Iskander-M ballistic missiles and three Iskander-K cruise missiles.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 5:22 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 5:37 am to cypher
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:21 am to Chromdome35
quote:
There is also footage of a Mexican cartel member carrying an AT4 that supposedly came from Ukraine. Since the source (Russian or Ukrainian) isn't explained, expect the troll brigade to visit.
AT4 that is a training device, not even armed.
LINK
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:58 am to CitizenK
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1664149760939286528
quote:
Bilhorod thread! The Russian Volunteer Corps and the Freedom Legion have entered the region again. Heavy battles are reported near Shebekino. Updates will be posted in this thread
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:09 am to Joshjrn
Mexican TV reporting weapons given to Ukraine are being sold to Cartels
Slava Sinaloa!
Slava Sinaloa!
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 7:10 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:27 am to Chromdome35
quote:
expect the troll brigade to visit.
That didn’t take very long at all!
See above
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:29 am to TheGasMan
They are consistent and predictable
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:48 am to Roaad
Right on cue one hour after I showed that it is fake news
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:49 am to Chromdome35
Russian freedom fighters staged another raid into the occupied Belhorod region of Ukraine overnight that the Putinist forces have temporarily repelled. LINK
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:00 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:
He's playing a role here
He tries, but he often breaks because he is also desperately lost and wants the world to conform to his views. He also realizes that it won't and simultaneously complains about whatever the media tells him is the issue. He's a massive loser.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:01 am to LSUPilot07
quote:
Also the 105 mm tank ammo. I’m guessing that’s for the Leopard 1s and maybe the AMX-10s
It's for the Leopard 1. The AMX-10 doesn't use a standard NATO round (only the French make it).
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:06 am to CitizenK
Good link on the cartel AT-4. He also shows video of the cartels having these weapons over a year ago.
LINK
LINK
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Venezuela is well known to have sold AT-4 to FARC terrorist in Colombia and the Colombian military have had this system during it’s internal conflict so it is very likely these AT-4s made it to Mexico. TO BE CLEAR IT IS RARE TO SEE SUCH WEAPONS IN CARTEL HANDS BUT THEY HAVE THEM
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:44 am to GOP_Tiger
I thought that the French 105 wasn’t NATO standard but wasn’t completely sure, thanks for the correction. You’d think Germany and the other countries that are supplying the Leopard 1s would also send the tank rounds with it but I guess we pay that tab as well. I’m assuming we still have a pretty sizable inventory of 105 mm tank ammo from the early M1 Abrams and the M60 Patton tanks. Admittedly tanks are a little out of my depth but I’m pretty sure we still house a good many M60 tanks at SIAD in California mainly for Taiwan because they still use the M60 as their primary tank.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:48 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:He's (SirWinston) absolutely playing a role. He started out under a different username and went through a couple of different personas until he found traction on the poli board (go figure) as some sort of bizarre homosexual white nationalist. But I think he's been at it so long that he's actually morphed into the character he was initially pretending to be.
He's playing a role here, in the same way that reality TV stars aren't really giving you a picture of their lives.
Either that or he's actually Milo Yiannopoulos.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:58 am to CitizenK
quote:
Right on cue one hour after I showed that it is fake news
Of course there is a thread on the PT and they all think it’s 100% for sure from Ukraine.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:15 am to notiger1997
US to buy Gepard air defense system for Ukraine in $118 million contract
The U.S. Department of Defense will buy Gepard self-propelled anti-air systems for Ukraine worth $118.3 million, the Pentagon announced in a press release on June 1.
A Florida-based company Global Military Products has received the contract for the purchase and delivery of the German-made 35-mm Gepard anti-aircraft systems.
The work covered by the contract will be carried out in Amman, Jordan, with the expected completion by May 30, 2024, the press release said.
The funds for the purchase were allocated from Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative.
The U.S. Department of Defense will buy Gepard self-propelled anti-air systems for Ukraine worth $118.3 million, the Pentagon announced in a press release on June 1.
A Florida-based company Global Military Products has received the contract for the purchase and delivery of the German-made 35-mm Gepard anti-aircraft systems.
The work covered by the contract will be carried out in Amman, Jordan, with the expected completion by May 30, 2024, the press release said.
The funds for the purchase were allocated from Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:15 am to northshorebamaman
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northshorebamaman
Wait are you the one that was going through the divorce a while back (or contemplating it)?
Hope you’re doing alright man. Godspeed
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