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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:44 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:44 am to
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We have no idea if they can hit trains or railroads. Only civilian Ukrainian infrastructure and casualties are reported.


Every video clip or photo which I saw of a Ukrainian power plant hit, was the substation, not the electric power generation. Transformers and associated gear were replaced by more reliable western equipment than the existing Soviet stuff
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:27 am to
Russians strike kindergarten in Vovchansk

"According to the investigation data, around 18:30 on April 28, the Russian military hit the roof of a kindergarten in the town of Vovchansk: the building was partially destroyed," the press service of the Kharkiv Regional Prosecutor's Office posted on Telegram.



UKRINFORM
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:30 am to
It’s time for Ukraine to unleash hell on Russia.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:05 pm to
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We have no idea if they can hit trains or railroads. Only civilian Ukrainian infrastructure and casualties are reported.



Dude, what are you talking about? In this conflict, both sides brag about their successful equipment kills and show videos. Just in the last 48 hours, there's been a lot of discussion about Russian Lancet strikes on a S-300 launcher and a Gepard.

Almost nothing in this war gets hit without video of it.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Just in the last 48 hours, there's been a lot of discussion about Russian Lancet strikes on a S-300 launcher and a Gepard.
It bounced off the Gepard, but Russians only show a still of it about to hit

Edit: link so the politards would believe it and not the Russian fake news LINK
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:37 pm to
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It bounced off the Gepard, but Russians only show a still of it about to hit


Complete video show the disabled (reportedly threw a track in soft soil) being hit but vehicle looked to be fine afterwards. Not sure extent of damage on external systems (radar and weapon)

Also to Tor-m1 that the Russians showing being hit was also a minor damage hit.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Dude, what are you talking about? In this conflict, both sides brag about their successful equipment kills and show videos. Just in the last 48 hours, there's been a lot of discussion about Russian Lancet strikes on a S-300 launcher and a Gepard.


Yesterday someone pointed out that Ukrainian air defenses were taking a beating and someone said that poster was not to be taken seriously. Pardon my confusion.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:47 pm to
LINK

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THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT ORDERS SUSPENSION UNTIL THE 1ST APRIL 2024 OF THE PUBLICATION OF STATISTICS ON OIL, GAS AND CONDENSATE PRODUCTION - TASS.


Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:15 pm to
Hmmm. Now I wonder why they would do that. LOL
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:30 pm to
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THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT ORDERS SUSPENSION UNTIL THE 1ST APRIL 2024 OF THE PUBLICATION OF STATISTICS ON OIL, GAS AND CONDENSATE PRODUCTION - TASS.


No way in hell that they can make up lost sales of natural gas. VLCCs loaded with crude from Texas enroute to China as I type
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:30 pm to
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Hmmm. Now I wonder why they would do that. LOL


It’s obvious, they are trying to hide the fact their economy is booming.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105280 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:52 pm to
Bandera was as anti Polish as he was anti Russian. The modern Poles seem to have gotten past it and don't see it as a threat, unlike the Russians who used a supposed resurgent Banderite movement as an excuse to invade Ukraine.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:58 pm to
It's the equivalent of a leftist today saying that the fact that Thomas Jefferson appears on our money is proof that America promotes slavery.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:08 pm to
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Nothing I posted can’t be found on Google. The DOD directives for COMSEC, which govern the topic are in the public domain guy.


I think anyone within the cleared world would agree that “need to know” is not treated as seriously as it ought to be treated and that way too many people are approved for TS/SCI who just should not need that clearance level.

It’d be nice to see some changes there but the DoD apparatus is incredibly slow to react to problems.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5070 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:43 pm to
Are we in favor of replacing the spring offensive wording with summer offensive yet? Looks like timelines are slipping a bit.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21123 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:47 pm to
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Are we in favor of replacing the spring offensive wording with summer offensive yet? Looks like timelines are slipping a bit.

It has been spring for ~5 weeks, and summer is still another ~8 weeks off.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13133 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Yesterday someone pointed out that Ukrainian air defenses were taking a beating and someone said that poster was not to be taken seriously.


It's possible that both are true. I was genuinely curious about the post and reviewed the posters history. That isn't someone I'll take seriously given his history here. So I have to question the source as well. But it's certainly possible that Ukrainian air defense is getting pounded. I just want a credible source.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 5:51 pm to
I had a look and the sources seem as legitimate as most other Twitter/Telegram ones when they claim they struck a large number of AD assets in the last few days and given the Russian drone/missile strikes over the last 24 hours it would make sense to see an elevated targeting of the such equipment, especially as it moves closer to the front as was indicated.

I haven't managed to trace back to original sources or found geolocation yet so there is a chance they are reused or appropriated material, though initial impressions are that this isn't the case.

What I certainly dispute are the claims that everything hit was "destroyed" as many of the clips cut off after the initial impact making damage assessment difficult and unless there is a huge explosion (as was the case of the S300) it is impossible to tell if the damage renders the asset inoperable or merely damaged.

Edit: Clarity
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
13133 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 6:22 pm to
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I had a look and the sources seem as legitimate as most other Twitter/Telegram ones when they claim they struck a large number of AD assets in the last few days and given the Russian drone/missile strikes over the last 24 hours it would make sense to see an elevated targeting of the such equipment, especially as it moves closer to the front as was indicated.


OK, I will take you seriously based on post history, and give more credit to your sources.

Vetting sources isn't completely impossible, unless you are a true believer in some cause. In that case good luck.

This isn't hard, it's not that difficult to filter things really, but it does take some effort. OK, even then it can be difficult.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
784 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 6:23 pm to
Van go boom.

Ukraine reportedly field testing a ground based drone (UGV?) armed with T-62 anti tank mines. Bit hard to see if the target is just a wooden dummy or an actual van, and I would have preferred to have seen it used on an actual tank or armoured vehicle, but these look like they will cause some real fun.

Looks to use a spotter UAV although it may be being used for recording purposes.

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