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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:36 am to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:36 am to GOP_Tiger
Washington Post:
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DONETSK REGION, Ukraine — Even as they grapple with ammunition shortages and await materiel from Western backers, Ukrainian forces are testing Russian defenses for vulnerabilities ahead of a much-anticipated counteroffensive.
At one trench position just over a kilometer from Russian lines, a Ukrainian corporal is working with a partner unit flying commercial drones to monitor Russian forces, identify weak points and plan strikes to destroy fortifications.
“We are testing them,” he said, describing small operations aimed at identifying Russian fighting positions and measuring their response. “And of course, they are doing the same to us.” Like others in this report, the corporal spoke on the condition he be identified only by his rank and call sign, “Boxer,” in keeping with Ukrainian military regulations.
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“Of course I’m worried, the longer we wait,” said a Ukrainian lieutenant colonel commanding a tank battalion in the Zaporizhzhia region, who goes by the call sign “Thunder.” Russian forces are “fortifying themselves more and more each day,” Thunder said.
Heavily mined front lines are expected to be a particularly difficult obstacle to navigate, he said. “There are mines on both sides of the front. We planted a lot of mines, and so did the Russian side.”
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:36 am to Spaceman Spiff
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How exactly do you lend something that can't be returned?
The shells are essentially fungible. When I loan you $20 I don't expect to get back the same bill.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 12:24 pm to Obtuse1
Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin Hosted Bilat Meeting With Denys Shmyhal, Prime Minister of Ukraine at the Pentagon
April 12, 2023
Remarks of Denys Shmyhal..
Ukrainian soldiers have proven that they can master this in a short time and use them effectively on the battlefield. We will win this war. But to achieve it faster and with fewer casualties, Ukraine still needs intensive military support, more air defense systems that minimize the impact of Russian air strikes, more heavy artillery, mortars and ammunition for them. We also ask you for reconsider the possibility of providing Ukraine with long-range -- longer-range missiles.
To defend ourselves and defend Europe, we need more heavy equipment but also aircraft. We sincerely applaud the decision of the U.S. to join the tank coalition and supplying us with Abrams tanks but also to provide Bradley and Stryker infantry fighting vehicles. For our counterattack to be successful, we require an increase in such supplies.
In a modern warfare, air superiority is crucial. That is why Ukraine is initiating the building of a new so-called fire -- fire -- fighter jet coalition and we are inviting the United States to become its most important participant. America can, once again, demonstrate its leadership by providing Ukraine with F-15 or F-16 aircrafts.
Another important issue, accountability regarding American aid, is an absolute (rule ?) for us, and you mentioned this, Mr. Secretary. We constantly submit all necessary data and reports to the U.S. government, and we’ll continue to do so. We spent every dollar efficiently and transparently. Ukraine has accelerated the integration of the LOGFAS program into our military equipment control system. This allows donor countries to track new deliveries according to their state use.
Transcript
April 12, 2023
Remarks of Denys Shmyhal..
Ukrainian soldiers have proven that they can master this in a short time and use them effectively on the battlefield. We will win this war. But to achieve it faster and with fewer casualties, Ukraine still needs intensive military support, more air defense systems that minimize the impact of Russian air strikes, more heavy artillery, mortars and ammunition for them. We also ask you for reconsider the possibility of providing Ukraine with long-range -- longer-range missiles.
To defend ourselves and defend Europe, we need more heavy equipment but also aircraft. We sincerely applaud the decision of the U.S. to join the tank coalition and supplying us with Abrams tanks but also to provide Bradley and Stryker infantry fighting vehicles. For our counterattack to be successful, we require an increase in such supplies.
In a modern warfare, air superiority is crucial. That is why Ukraine is initiating the building of a new so-called fire -- fire -- fighter jet coalition and we are inviting the United States to become its most important participant. America can, once again, demonstrate its leadership by providing Ukraine with F-15 or F-16 aircrafts.
Another important issue, accountability regarding American aid, is an absolute (rule ?) for us, and you mentioned this, Mr. Secretary. We constantly submit all necessary data and reports to the U.S. government, and we’ll continue to do so. We spent every dollar efficiently and transparently. Ukraine has accelerated the integration of the LOGFAS program into our military equipment control system. This allows donor countries to track new deliveries according to their state use.
Transcript
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:10 pm to GOP_Tiger
One can only hope that little son of a bitch gets captured alive by the Ukrainians. His death should be slow and painful. He looks like the type that will talk a big game but I bet he’d be pissing in his pants crying like a little bitch if the shoe was on the other foot.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:05 pm to AuBeerStud
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just watched the video of the Russians beheading a Ukrainian
Yep. Made the guillotine seem like a humane device. Horrible.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:44 pm to S
I told you hacks months ago US troops were already in Ukraine.
LINK
That number does not include CTR that have been there since day one.
LINK
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According to the document, dated 23 March, the UK has the largest contingent of special forces in Ukraine (50), followed by fellow Nato states Latvia (17), France (15), the US (14) and the Netherlands (1).
That number does not include CTR that have been there since day one.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:56 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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That number does not include CTR that have been there since day one.
What are our 14 guys doing?
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:04 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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I told you hacks months ago US troops were already in Ukraine.
“The us (14)”
We have more than that in Russia and China…….. marines in embassies
14 is supposed to be a gotcha? Observers/advisors/training.
Also tracking arms shipments……
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:07 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/western-forces-have-100-troops-in-ukraine
So they are there working to ensure the exact thing everyone on the PT bitches we aren't doing.
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National Security Council coordinator John Kirby told Fox News on Wednesday that the U.S. troops in Ukraine are based in the embassy in Kyiv and are not on the front lines fighting against Russian forces.
"I won't talk to the specifics of numbers and that kind of thing. But to get to your exact question, there is a small U.S. military presence at the embassy in conjunction with the Defense Attaches Office to help us work on accountability of the materiel that is going in and out of Ukraine," Kirby said, referencing the military aid the U.S. has been sending the country. "So they're attached to that embassy and to that the defense attache."
So they are there working to ensure the exact thing everyone on the PT bitches we aren't doing.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:09 pm to rhar61
Got my medals before you were born son
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:16 pm to Obtuse1
quote:
The shells are essentially fungible.
quote:O/U of 15% on the percentage of folks here who actually know what this term means.
fungible
Hint to the 85%:
It does not mean “able to support the growth of fungus”.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:26 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Meh
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:30 pm to soccerfüt
quote:
O/U of 15% on the percentage of folks here who actually know what this term means.
Going under
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:32 pm to soccerfüt
On another note, had a conversation with a semiretired former chemcial company exec this morning about his using him as a consultant, or a client. Part of the conservation was how Germany's chemical industry was running on fumes long before any issues with Russian natural gas.
So I looked up the multi billion BASF expansion in Geismar from last summer. That kind of money isn't announced without planning for it long before Feb 24th 2022.
LINK
So I looked up the multi billion BASF expansion in Geismar from last summer. That kind of money isn't announced without planning for it long before Feb 24th 2022.
LINK
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:37 pm to Chromdome35
Good god man you should be better than this.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:41 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Then what are they doing, since you seem to be in the know.
quote:
Good god man you should be better than this.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:51 pm to Chromdome35
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Then what are they doing, since you seem to be in the know.
quote:Good god man you should be better than this.
You know what’s going on. We sent our 14 best and they are going to lead the Ukrainian counterattack and retake Crimea. They are some real bad asses.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 5:07 pm to doubleb
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You know what’s going on. We sent our 14 best and they are going to lead the Ukrainian counterattack and retake Crimea. They are some real bad asses.
Special forces MD's with the US drugs to turn Ukrainian soldiers into Superhuman, Jewish Nazi LGBT Demons who cannot be killed
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 4/12/23 at 5:21 pm to CitizenK
They were sent in to secure all the bio-labs.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 5:25 pm to tigeraddict
quote:Hell, we might have more than that in this thread.
I told you hacks months ago US troops were already in Ukraine.
“The us (14)”
We have more than that in Russia and China…….. marines in embassies
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