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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:22 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:22 am to
We are. Contracts have been issued to open new plants. Inside of two years, we'll be able to produce six times as many shells as we made last year.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:24 am to
The audio in the beheading video:

quote:

As one man cuts, others cheer him on:
"We're working brothers. We're fricking working."
"fricking cut it."
"Break the spine."
"What, you're never cut a head off?"
"Do it, do it."
"To the end, to the end."


LINK
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:49 am to
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You are describing the DPR and Wagner wonderfully. Plus the neo-nazi Russian Imperial Movement, and the various ultra-right wing groups associated with it, are prominent in the Russian Armed Forces. If choosing a side simply based on who has the less Nazis, or who has the less hardcore Nazis, then Russia would be last on the sides to choose, and it isn’t even close.


Truth. There are more Nazi's in Moscow than in all of Ukraine. The Russian people are probably sheltered enough to believe Putin's propaganda, but anyone else that falls for it needs to do some research on the subject.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:59 am to
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Who is the real Nazi? Someone who uses a Nazi symbol, or someone who commits Nazi-like war crimes?


What a stupid question.

You sound like a democrat. Everybody bad is literally a nazi. Time to change the handle bub.

They can be pieces of shite and not nazis.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:32 am to
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"You will be surprised how many of these videos will gradually pop up."



Here's the original, gruesome Telegram post of the beheading (I don't advise watching.)

So, who made that Telegram post and promoted the video? It was done by the founder and leader of Rusich, Alexey Milchakov.





Here's the video from 2020 of Milchakov proudly declaring that he's a Nazi. Do watch it.

Even the Rusich logo is a just doubled swastika.



Here's a Rusich fighter giving a Nazi salute in Palmyra, Syria:



Rusich was originally independent, but it ultimately became part of Wagner.



Here's another Milchakov post on his Telegram instructing on what to do with Ukrainian POWs:




Wagner has posted other photos of Ukrainian heads on spikes, including just a few days ago. None of this is anything new.

That's why I invite TexasForever and any of his Politard friends to post more on Ukrainian Nazis. It simply displays their ignorance.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
561 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:39 am to
Woosh! Thats the sound of the point going in one ear and out the other.

Since you're too stupid to understand the context behind his response:

The point of his question is what makes a nazi a nazi? Is it the symbolism of swastikas and iron crosses or is it the actions and reasons one takes that makes one a nazi?


Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:02 am to
Here's another post from Rusich, dated October 25, on what to do with Ukrainians after they finish their conquest of Ukraine:



Do note that in the beheading post on Telegram, Rusich has gotten over 4000 likes for the post, and less than 2000 dislikes. Beheading POWs by sawing their heads off with knives as the scream, is apparently popular stuff in Russia! It's great way to build your social media following.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:09 am to
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Here's the video from 2020 of Milchakov proudly declaring that he's a Nazi. Do watch it.

Even the Rusich logo is a just doubled swastika.


Can anyone explain to me how Nazism actually took hold in Russia of all places? My American mind just can’t comprehend it from WWII. Not refuting what we’ve discussed or what you just posted specifically, I just don’t understand the how.

quote:

Here's another Milchakov post on his Telegram instructing on what to do with Ukrainian POWs:


Sick people
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:21 am to
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Can anyone explain to me how Nazism actually took hold in Russia of all places? My American mind just can’t comprehend it from WWII. Not refuting what we’ve discussed or what you just posted specifically, I just don’t understand the how.


Easy, the USSR/Stalin were anti Nazi AFTER Germany invaded, hosted Nazi troop training and military equipment to hide it from the allies pre Poland's invasion. Socialist party is not that far from Cummunist Party (misspelling intended). Ultra Nationalism is what many of Putin's cronies are all about, definitely Wagner PMC is one of those.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42610 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:24 am to
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I’m against the Ukraine war, but this would just be good geopolitical sense.


Me too. Russia should never have started it.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:37 am to
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Woosh! Thats the sound of the point going in one ear and out the other. Since you're too stupid to understand the context behind his response: The point of his question is what makes a nazi a nazi? Is it the symbolism of swastikas and iron crosses or is it the actions and reasons one takes that makes one a nazi?


More stupid.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:40 am to
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Easy, the USSR/Stalin were anti Nazi AFTER Germany invaded, hosted Nazi troop training and military equipment to hide it from the allies pre Poland's invasion. Socialist party is not that far from Cummunist Party (misspelling intended). Ultra Nationalism is what many of Putin's cronies are all about, definitely Wagner PMC is one of those.


But they still celebrate defeating the Nazis in a national holiday because, yes after the turn they killed millions of Soviets/Russians. That’s what I don’t understand. To me it would be like Koreans all of a sudden celebrating Imperial Japan. It’s not happening.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
561 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:42 am to
The only stupid here is your inability to have a discussion objectively without politics or blindly following of your political dogma of choice.

Stop acting like a 5 year old arguing on the school ground. You're smarter than that.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:43 am to
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The only stupid here is your inability to have a discussion objectively without politics or blindly following of your political dogma of choice


Please describe my dogma
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
561 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:51 am to
I'm good.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I'm good.


Thought so.

I'll leave this thread to the warmongers. Have a good one.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:54 am to
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Over recent weeks, Russia has continued to develop extensive linear defences in Zaporizhzhia Oblast in southern Ukraine

Yeah I saw some stuff on Twitter a couple weeks ago with satellite imagery of the area after the Russians took over last year and then more recent images within the first couple months of this year. They have definitely been busy little beavers in Zaporizhzhia. Vast trench networks and dragon's teeth (I'm sure it's been heavily mined as well).

I've been seeing talk of the Uke counter offensive trying to push into Zaporizhzhia when they go and I just don't know if that's feasible. I haven't done a deep dive on why that area is so important to the Russians (I assume it has to do with keeping a Ukrainian pincer from coming in and swinging south and keeping them as far away from Crimea as possible to keep the bridge standing) but they certainly have put major efforts into hardening their lines down there. They have also been heavily fortifying Crimea itself recently too. I just don't know if Ukraine has the manpower left to take on that kind of slogging fight. I've seen talk of one main objective to ending this thing with a Ukrainian victory is driving to the Sea of Azov, I just wonder if the timing has worked against them as Russia has had a lot of time to strengthen there.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20293 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:15 am to
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South Korea to lend 500,000 rounds of artillery shells to US


How exactly do you lend something that can't be returned?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54700 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:18 am to
US just going to stare at them for a few years
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:27 am to
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How exactly do you lend something that can't be returned?



Something like this:

The shells sit in a US warehouse for the next five years, perhaps even in Korea, and would only be used if the US itself went to war.

Then, those shells would be returned to the Korean military.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 10:28 am
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