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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:05 pm to AGGIES
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:05 pm to AGGIES
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Yeah, not sure why he would choose to act as if he speaks for the EU, that is also more of a reflection of Germany’s weakness right now.
Because he wants to be and Germany’s weakness in a time of war on the European continent, and growing conflict in Asia, further give him a vacuum to attempt to fill. France is the premier military power in the EU to be fair. Germany has been allowed to take the lead and overshadow them without a meaningful military because of its economic and fiscal position.
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Because he always projects fear towards conflict, he doesn’t persuade anyone to listen to him.
The French has acted pretty swiftly and forcefully with respect to Islamic terrorism and we’re a major player in Libya, but they are too cozy with the Russians.
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:52 pm to GOP_Tiger
He was in China, he said some pro China things I think we are going to be ok. And if French business wants to go to China and do all the work and give the govt half the profit knock yourself out.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:06 pm to duggieblue
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The Russians beheading a Ukraine soldier video is blurred in this link.. but it’s out there.
Man, that's tough to watch -- even blurred.
But it's typical for the Russian military in this conflict. All the rapes and murders, the live castrating of a Ukrainian, the live execution of the prisoner saying "Slava Ukrainyi," the abduction of thousands of children -- it all starts at the top, which is why the ICC indicted Putin.
[EDIT: when we talk about "escalation," we need to consider that Russia continually escalates its brutality.]
[EDIT 2: Oh, and Politards, please tell me more lies about how Ukraine is full of Nazis.]
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:09 pm to DabosDynasty
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Because he wants to be and Germany’s weakness in a time of war on the European continent, and growing conflict in Asia, further give him a vacuum to attempt to fill. France is the premier military power in the EU to be fair. Germany has been allowed to take the lead and overshadow them without a meaningful military because of its economic and fiscal position.
German banks loaned out lots of money to Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece the last few decades but the caveat was buy German made goods with the money, less cost to manage projects. Then Germany cried foul when they couldn't pay it back. This actually caused businesses to fail when funding for new projects suddenly dried up to complete, even though solvent. The IMF tightened regs which changed the rules in midstream of many projects, causing banks that funded to fail. That happened to the Juniper GTL to Wax plant in Lake Charles. The owner was Portuguese/Brazilian who was a major shareholder in the Portuguese bank which was backing the project. The process was already proven in a Portuguese lab and a pilot plant built in Eastern Europe. The company found replacement funding from Calumet Refining and an E&P oil/gas company then the oil crash of 2014 hit and that funding dried up due lack of cash flow to continue to support, so it was forced to file bankruptcy for the plant (75% complete) and the R&D facility in Pasadena TX. A second plant was already planned but to make base oil for lubricants, but in the Houston area and much larger.
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The French has acted pretty swiftly and forcefully with respect to Islamic terrorism and we’re a major player in Libya, but they are too cozy with the Russians.
Italy had some deals with Libya to refine its crude oil for it and Qaddafi would be a barrier to immigrants from Sub Saharan Africa by giving them jobs. Sarkozy got rid of than and then Qatar/Saudi Arabia had a proxy war afterward Qaddafi was deposed, which ended up splintering into what amounts to 200 ea Bloods and Crips gang wars. Russia seems to have more influence now than any EU nation.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
I just watched the video of the Russians beheading a Ukrainian. It’s brutal! ISIS type stuff. I won’t link it but it’s out there. Screw Russia! Their military needs to be destroyed!
Posted on 4/11/23 at 7:24 pm to Nigel Farage
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Judging by the reactions of US and foreign officials (particularly South Korea and Israel) most if not all of the leaks seem legit. There are definitely some documents that have been altered in regards to casualty numbers both sides have incurred but the but the ones relating to other countries participation in the war and weapons deliveries to Ukraine seem legit.
If all of these are true it paints a pretty dire picture for Ukraine in my opinion. It shows that the west cannot keep up with the shell/ammo consumption going on and that traditional countries we have been able to rely on are hesitant or outright refusing to get involved. With the leaks about Egypt arming the Russians and taking into account how the Saudis and Iranians have reconciled recently this is a foreign policy disaster for the US. I can’t help but believe that the actions being taken by third parties are in large part because of us trying to force our own version of decadent morality upon unwilling nations.
Take Saudi Arabia for instance, Blinken has stated repeatedly that every time he meets with them he is pressing them on their treatment of gays. Saudi Arabia is the home of Islam and the Islamic world explicitly condemns homosexuality in all forms. Yet the US has the audacity to try to leverage the Saudis or Egyptians to accept the unacceptable or else and then we are left wondering why the hell these countries are suddenly switching allegiances.
Africa again we have made promoting gay rights a priority there and have been rebuffed so thoroughly that China, India and Russia have better ties than ever. Then of course there is South America where the CIA has instigated countless coups throughout the decades (most recently trumps failed coup in Venezuela) and we wonder why they aren’t keen on sending weapons.
As big as the details about what weapons have been delivered and general attrition in Ukraine, my biggest takeaway is that our disastrous foreign policy spanning the last few decades is finally coming back to bite us in the arse. BRICS is going to be a real problem for the United States moving forward as more countries align with them so they don’t get leveraged over fricking gays or our own phony belief in democracy.
I still support Ukraine and hope that they can somehow force some sort of a truce or ceasefire here in the next year but I don’t have a ton of faith. But the United States insistence on making gays the centerpiece of both our foreign policy and the face of our government is making the rest of the world turn away. I mean I don’t blame them, when you have trannies being called the soul of our nation and in high level government positions combined with making gay rights the cornerstone of our foreign policy no wonder most of the world is telling us to frick off.
This x 1000. Facts.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 7:27 pm to AU86
Oh no like they don't know that we spy on them. Everyone spies on everyone even close allies.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:19 pm to GOP_Tiger
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[EDIT 2: Oh, and Politards, please tell me more lies about how Ukraine is full of Nazis.]
The fact that you can't admit this is pretty ridiculous. Damn near 50+% of pictures/videos of Ukrainian soldiers has clowns doing the Sieg Heil salute or they're covered in Nazi symbolism, they don't even try to hide it. Happy to provide about 10,000 examples if you want
Does it justify a beheading? Hell no, but it absolutely exists and it's widespread. Good luck reigning that bullshite in after this war is over, they're going to be emboldened and armed to the teeth.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:49 pm to TexasForever
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Damn near 50+% of pictures/videos of Ukrainian soldiers has clowns doing the Sieg Heil salute or they're covered in Nazi symbolism, they don't even try to hide it. Happy to provide about 10,000 examples if you want
First, please do provide the 10,000 examples, when you are finished I will provide 10,001 to prove you wrong.
For a moment I thought you might have entered the conversation on reasonable terms then you went full tankie chucklefrick.
Never go full tankie chucklefrick.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:52 pm to TexasForever
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Good luck reigning that bullshite in after this war is over, they're going to be emboldened and armed to the teeth.
Do you think they are going to start a hardline sectarian state in the Donbass or something?
Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:53 pm to Obtuse1
He’s just another in a long list of trolls that pop into this thread.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:05 pm to notiger1997
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The Kremlin passed legislation to use tools of digital authoritarianism to digitize and improve the effectiveness of issuing summonses and crack down on Russian draft dodgers. The Russian State Duma adopted a bill in its third reading on April 11 to create a digital unified register of Russian citizens eligible for military service.[1] Russian military recruitment offices will use the digital register to issue summonses to military service. The unified register harvests Russian citizens’ personal identification information—including medical, educational, and residence history, foreign citizenship status, and insurance and tax data—from multiple Russian legal entities, including Russia’s Federal Tax Service, investigative bodies, courts, medical institutions, the Russian Pension and Social Insurance Fund, the Central Election Commission, and federal and local authorities.[2] Summoned individuals may not leave Russia and must appear at a military recruitment office within 20 days of being summoned. The law bans summoned individuals who are 20 days delinquent for reporting from driving vehicles, buying or selling real estate, and taking out loans. A senior Russian legislator stated that the law will correct some of the bureaucratic shortcomings that appeared during Russia’s partial mobilization in September 2022
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The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin acknowledged each other's roles in the Bakhmut effort on April 11. The Russian MoD and Prigozhin claimed that Wagner fighters comprise the main effort to take territory and push Ukrainian forces in central Bakhmut, whereas unspecified Russian Airborne (VDV) elements comprise the supporting effort on Wagner’s flanks north and south of Bakhmut, including near Zalizhnyanske, Sakko i Vantsetti, and Mykolaivka.[6] The Russian VDV forces on the flanks likely aim only to hold the flanks rather than make any significant advances
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A small, fringe group of pro-war Russian milbloggers called for the Russian government to repeal the censorship laws against discrediting the Russian military. A group of at least 20 Russian milbloggers amplified a blanket statement expressing solidarity with "angry patriots” and others enraged at and weary of the poor application of the Russian censorship laws.[9] These milbloggers, many of whom have limited social media followings, represent a small fraction of the Russian information space and their statement does not indicate broader anger over the mere existence of these laws. However, this faction of milbloggers is the most likely to face prosecution under these laws because they lack Kremlin affiliation, are among the most critical of the Russian war effort, and would likely be among the first targets of an expanded application of the law. The pro-war information space has expressed continued outrage over Russian authorities prosecuting a Russian medic under these censorship laws, which ISW has assessed will likely be a growing source of discontent in the pro-war information space
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Key Takeaways
The Kremlin passed legislation to use tools of digital authoritarianism to digitize and improve the effectiveness of issuing summonses and to crack down on Russian draft dodgers.
The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin acknowledged each other's roles in the Bakhmut effort.
A small, fringe group of pro-war Russian milbloggers called for the Russian government to repeal the censorship laws against discrediting the Russian military.
Russian forces appear to hold positions northeast of Kupyansk and have made gains in the forest area south of Kreminna.
Russian forces conducted ground attacks in and around Bakhmut and along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
Russian forces conducted defensive operations in southern Ukraine.
Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu visited defense industrial enterprises in Tula Oblast as part of the ongoing effort to portray the resilience of Russia's defense industrial base (DIB).
Russian Commissioner for Children’s Rights Maria Lvova-Belova continues to confirm that Russian authorities are taking a number of actions vis-a-vis Ukrainian children in an attempt to exculpate herself from the International Criminal Court (ICC)’s warrant for her arrest.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:12 pm to StormyMcMan
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The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin
I feel like I’m reading some kind of soap opera story online every day with this stuff with the Russian military and Prigozhin.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:21 pm to TexasForever
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The fact that you can't admit this is pretty ridiculous. Damn near 50+% of pictures/videos of Ukrainian soldiers has clowns doing the Sieg Heil salute or they're covered in Nazi symbolism, they don't even try to hide it. Happy to provide about 10,000 examples if you want
Since you seem quite unable to grasp the point:
Who is the real Nazi? Someone who uses a Nazi symbol, or someone who commits Nazi-like war crimes?
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
In the late 1960's almost every American school boy had drawn an Iron Cross in or on his notebooks. Not just Rebel flags but Nazi Swastika flags were flown at concerts as a sign or rebellion against the establishment. It was definitely a craze for boys and teens of that era.
As one of those, I never met an actual Nazi. The closest was a friend of a friend in Long Beach, CA back in the earl 1990's. His dad had been in the SS and out of high school he had been a seamen on a German merchant ship. Dad was long dead but mom did well as a real estate agent immigrant.
People take this claiming and blaming way to far these days. Sounds like someone who is woke making these claims
As one of those, I never met an actual Nazi. The closest was a friend of a friend in Long Beach, CA back in the earl 1990's. His dad had been in the SS and out of high school he had been a seamen on a German merchant ship. Dad was long dead but mom did well as a real estate agent immigrant.
People take this claiming and blaming way to far these days. Sounds like someone who is woke making these claims
Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:05 am to TexasForever
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Damn near 50+% of pictures/videos of Ukrainian soldiers has clowns doing the Sieg Heil salute or they're covered in Nazi symbolism, they don't even try to hide it.
You are describing the DPR and Wagner wonderfully. Plus the neo-nazi Russian Imperial Movement, and the various ultra-right wing groups associated with it, are prominent in the Russian Armed Forces. If choosing a side simply based on who has the less Nazis, or who has the less hardcore Nazis, then Russia would be last on the sides to choose, and it isn’t even close. Not to mention the Jew who in charge of all those Ukrainian Nazis of which you speak, which throws in another element of intrigue.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:04 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 12 April 2023
Over recent weeks, Russia has continued to develop extensive linear defences in Zaporizhzhia Oblast in southern Ukraine. The area is highly likely the responsibility of Russia's Southern Grouping of Forces (SGF).
Russia has now completed three layers of defensive zones across approximately 120km of this sector. These consist of a front line of forward combat positions, and then two zones of nearly continuous, more elaborate defences. Each zone is approximately 10-20km behind the one in front.
Russia has probably put significant effort into these defensive works because it is convinced Ukraine is considering an assault towards the city of Melitopol. The defences have the potential to be formidable obstacles, but their utility almost entirely depends on them being supported by sufficient artillery and personnel. It remains unclear if the SGF can currently muster these resources.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 12 April 2023
Over recent weeks, Russia has continued to develop extensive linear defences in Zaporizhzhia Oblast in southern Ukraine. The area is highly likely the responsibility of Russia's Southern Grouping of Forces (SGF).
Russia has now completed three layers of defensive zones across approximately 120km of this sector. These consist of a front line of forward combat positions, and then two zones of nearly continuous, more elaborate defences. Each zone is approximately 10-20km behind the one in front.
Russia has probably put significant effort into these defensive works because it is convinced Ukraine is considering an assault towards the city of Melitopol. The defences have the potential to be formidable obstacles, but their utility almost entirely depends on them being supported by sufficient artillery and personnel. It remains unclear if the SGF can currently muster these resources.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 6:43 am to cypher
LINK
South Korea to lend 500,000 rounds of artillery shells to US -report
South Korea to lend 500,000 rounds of artillery shells to US -report
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SEOUL, April 12 (Reuters) - South Korea has reached an agreement to lend the United States 500,000 rounds of 155mm artillery shells that could give Washington greater flexibility to supply Ukraine with ammunition, a South Korean newspaper reported on Wednesday.
The DongA Ilbo newspaper cited unidentified government sources as saying South Korea decided to "lend" the ammunition instead of selling, to minimise the possibility of South Korean shells being used in the Ukraine conflict.
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Having bought 100,000 such shells last year, the U.S. government had asked to buy the same amount or more in February, but the South Korean government sought another way to supply the ammunition.
"We've opted to significantly increase the volume of shells but take the rental method, after exploring how to respond to the request of the blood ally in good faith while sticking to the government principle of not providing lethal weapons to Ukraine," one source was quoted as saying.
The article did not provide details on the workings of the "rental menthod".
Posted on 4/12/23 at 6:52 am to cypher
Interesting that Russia was not only unsuccessful in destroying Ukraine's electrical grid but Ukraine is making money exporting electricity to Europe, BILLIONS
Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:00 am to GOP_Tiger
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South Korea to lend 500,000 rounds of artillery shells to US -report
I hope this means we will be constructing more munitions factories stateside to catch-up with demand. I’m against the Ukraine war, but this would just be good geopolitical sense.
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