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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:13 pm to Geralt of Rivia
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:13 pm to Geralt of Rivia
We all know there is nothing anyone can post here to change your mind about anything you already think you know.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:27 pm to notiger1997
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We all know there is nothing anyone can post here to change your mind about anything you already think you know.
That's rich being posted in this thread
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:30 pm to TigerFanatic99
grrrr. i am so mad over the literal billions in cash that we are sending over to ukraine. we need to do something. grrrr
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:35 pm to WestCoastAg
What if we used that money to arm security in our schools?
Not one person can tell me why it’s our responsibility to interfere with this war.
Not one person can tell me why it’s our responsibility to interfere with this war.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:37 pm to Geralt of Rivia
what if we used that money to prosecute the bidens and obamas and faucci
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:38 pm to Geralt of Rivia
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Not one person can tell me why it’s our responsibility to interfere with this war.
Poliboard, Poliboard, Poliboard.
POL-I-BOARD.
EDIT: I waited over there for you to show up. You didn't and missed your chance for a real discussion. Sad.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:49 pm to Geralt of Rivia
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Not one person can tell me why it’s our responsibility to interfere with this war.
Because no one wants to talk politics with qtards in this thread.
If you want to talk about what is and isn't being donated and how the effects things for either side go ahead. But we aren't discussing if we should or shouldn't be donating. Go the poli board for your nightly circle jerk for that.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:52 pm to StormyMcMan
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If you want to talk about what is and isn't being donated and how the effects things for either side go ahead. But we aren't discussing if we should or shouldn't be donating. Go the poli board for your nightly circle jerk for that.
This tells me you can’t rationally justify it
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:53 pm to Geralt of Rivia
man, im upset. this pisses me off. grr
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
Do you still think the Bakhmut offensive is culminating as per ISW or do you think there is still a chance it falls? I never really got behind ISW assessment because Wagner continued to gain ground, but that was just me.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:59 pm to StormyMcMan
isw
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Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Moscow on March 29 to review strategic and long-term cooperation agreements that will likely intensify Russia’s and Iran’s bilateral security relationship. Abdollahian stated that Russian and Iranian officials are in the final stage of signing a cooperation agreement.[1] Lavrov promoted Iran’s “Hormoz Peace Plan” for security in the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman and stated that the Kremlin demands an immediate return to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).[2] Abdollahian and Lavrov likely discussed continued Russian efforts to procure Iranian weapon systems for use in Ukraine and a finalized agreement for Russia to provide Iran with Su-35 attack aircraft.[3] The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on March 29 that Iranian Pouya Air Transport resumed regular flights between Tehran and Moscow on March 13 likely to support weapons transfers.[4] The Ukrainian Resistance Center also reported that Iranian officials are planning to deliver Shahed-131 drones to Wagner Group personnel and that Wagner personnel have started training to operate the drones, although ISW has not observed confirmation that Wagner Group personnel have used Iranian-made drones in Ukraine
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Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin seized on the recent story of the sentencing of a Tula Oblast father for his 12-year-old daughter’s antiwar drawing to promote the Wagner Group’s reputation and ameliorate his own personal image. Prigozhin’s press service posted a letter on March 28 signed by Prigozhin, Wagner commander Dmitry Utkin, and Wagner-affiliated director of the “Liga” veteran's organization Andrey Troshev addressed to Tula Oblast prosecutor Alexander Gritsaenko stating that the signatories consider Gritsaenko’s issuance of a two-year prison sentence to Aleksey Moskalev unfair.[7] Moskalev was charged with “discrediting the armed forces” after his 12-year-old daughter Masha drew an antiwar picture with a Ukrainian flag in her school art class in April 2022.[8] Masha was taken into state custody and now lives in a juvenile shelter, and Moskalev fled house arrest the night before his sentencing and was sentenced to two years in prison in absentia.[9] Prigozhin’s letter suggests that Tula Oblast check the legality of Gritsaenko’s sentencing and recommends that Wagner-affiliated lawyers participate in the case on Moskalev’s side, noting that it is tragic that both Masha and children of dead Wagner fighters end up in orphanages.[10] Prigozhin’s response to Moskalev’s sentencing is particularly ironic considering that Prigozhin was initially one of the biggest and loudest supporters of the law on punishing those who ”discredit” Russian forces.[11] It is therefore likely that Prigozhin seized on the discourse surrounding Moskalev to further his own reputation and advocate for the Wagner Group, especially by choosing to highlight the plight of orphans of Wagner fighters who die in Ukraine
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Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov’s demonstrative response to an attack on a police station in Chechnya suggests that he may be concerned about the stability of his authoritarian rule. Kadyrov claimed that Chechen authorities killed two unidentified men attempting to conduct an attack in Gudermes, Chechnya on the night of March 28, and Russian sources amplified footage purporting to show the two men shooting at a local police department.[14] Kadyrov’s Special Forces University is in Gudermes, although it is not clear if the attack was connected to the facility. Kadyrov published footage of himself, his 15-year-old son, and an entourage of Chechen officials and security personnel visiting the scene of the attack and inspecting the mangled bodies of the assailants
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Russian authorities arrested Russian National Guard (Rosgvardia) naval department head Colonel Sergey Volkov for corruption-related charges. The 235th Garrison Military Court in Moscow arrested Volkov on March 29 for abuse of authority charges in connection with the sale of low-quality radar systems at heavily inflated prices, and an official investigation reportedly found that his actions amounted to damages of 395.5 million rubles (roughly $5 million).[17] The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and Rosgvardia recently launched a criminal case against the Deputy Commander of the Rosgvardia’s Central District, Major General Vadim Dragomiretsky, on March 20 for corruption-related charges
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Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov stated on March 27 that Ukrainian forces may be planning to launch a counteroffensive in April or May depending on weather conditions. In an interview with Estonian news outlet ERR, Reznikov stated that the Ukrainian General Staff might decide to use recently received Leopard 2 tanks in a possible spring counterattack.[19] Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 tanks arrived in Ukraine on March 27, and US officials announced the acceleration of the deployment of Abrams tanks and Patriot missile systems to Ukraine on March 21.[20] The arrival of equipment in Ukraine likely sets conditions for a Ukrainian counteroffensive, although a delay is likely between the arrival of new equipment in Ukraine’s ability to use it in a counteroffensive.
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Key Takeaways
Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Moscow on March 29 to review strategic and long-term cooperation agreements that will likely intensify Russia’s and Iran’s bilateral security relationship.
Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin seized on the recent story of the sentencing of a Tula Oblast father for his 12-year-old daughter’s antiwar drawing to promote the Wagner Group’s reputation and ameliorate his own personal image.
Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov’s demonstrative response to an attack on a police station in Chechnya suggests that he may be concerned about the stability of his authoritarian rule.
Russian authorities arrested Russian National Guard (Rosgvardia) naval department head Colonel Sergey Volkov for corruption-related charges.
Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov stated on March 27 that Ukrainian forces may be planning to launch a counteroffensive in April or May depending on weather conditions.
Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line.
Russian forces continued offensive operations in and around Bakhmut and along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City front.
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director General Rafael Grossi visited the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) for the second time.
Russian occupation authorities continue to implement measures to integrate occupied territories into the Russian administrative and legal system.
The Belarusian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reported that planned activities are ongoing to call up those liable for military service for military training and to retrain reserve servicemen in military registration specialties.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:00 pm to Geralt of Rivia
Geralt- Chicken has agreed with us to let this board talk about the war and told people that want to speak of politics to go to the political board. Go away.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:02 pm to jeffsdad
I didn’t know that. Simply wanted answer
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:06 pm to Geralt of Rivia
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I didn’t know that. Simply wanted answer
Many of us think the ROI is extremely high in terms of world power. It has been discussed ad nauseum and in detail ITT.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:07 pm to StormyMcMan
quote:Tell this to the people in this thread that say "we need to do more".
If you want to talk about what is and isn't being donated
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:11 pm to doubleb
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It seems they used their old playbook, but this time it did not work.
One of the hardest things to do is scale up. Ukraine is proving just too big an operation for Putin’s little green men approach to territory acquisition.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:25 pm to Geralt of Rivia
.. and when you get an answer, I suspect that
1) you won't like it
2) go off on a rant better suited for the PT
3) complain when people disagree
4) return to step 1
1) you won't like it
2) go off on a rant better suited for the PT
3) complain when people disagree
4) return to step 1
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:53 pm to StormyMcMan
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Do you still think the Bakhmut offensive is culminating as per ISW or do you think there is still a chance it falls? I never really got behind ISW assessment because Wagner continued to gain ground, but that was just me.
Both. I think that the offensive is culminating, and I also now think that there is a good chance that Bakhmut falls.
Russian attacks in Bakhmut are advancing slowly, as Russian forces get ground down and lose combat power.
I think that Ukraine has done what it needed to do in Bakhmut. In fact, it's accomplished more than it needed to. Bakhmut itself is not important. What mattered was that Wagner has been severely degraded and the Russian offensive continued long after Russia needed to stop, restock, and prepare for Ukraine's spring offensive.
So, yeah, I think ISW was wrong. Not the first time that they've been wrong. It happens.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:54 pm to Geralt of Rivia
The simplest, easiest answer that you won’t either understand and or accept is that sending $33 billion in arms to Ukraine to destroy the Russian military is a steal when you are trading money and bullets for not dropping an ounce of American blood. Putin chose this war, not the USA. The man has been open about wanting the old Soviet Union borders restored so when he rolled into a sovereign country and brought death and destruction to a country that borders NATO countries he made the decision for everyone. If he hadn’t tried toppling Ukraine by force none of this would be happening. It’s really as simple as that. Would you rather give Ukraine the weapons to fight the Russians or let Putin become emboldened by taking over and then wondering what his next move would be while making us look weak on the world stage?
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