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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:32 pm to
I was in Afghanistan a-hole.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:32 pm to
The following post is very political, so I'm posting it more for reference than for discussion. I get bored with arguing about whether or not we should support Ukraine, and that's not what the board is for. So, I'm not posting excerpts from the article -- only the link.

Pence calls for quicker pace of getting US military aid to Ukraine
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:33 pm to
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I wish this was as effective as it was claimed to be, but it really hasn't done much to slow the Russians down to this point.


Not as hoped but certainly impactful. On paper unemployment isn't there but that is because people are being paid for less days than worked and some at home not getting paid at all but still "employed". This is nothing new in Russia. State owned manufacturing has done this in the past, with workers working fulltime but not getting a paycheck.

Payday loans are being taken out by close to 50% of the populace to make ends meet. Lots of loan default.

Then there is the intelligence drain. Smart young educated people have left by the 100's of thousands in the last year. Many in February and a shitton in less than a week in September. 406k to Kazakstan alone during the several days in September.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:36 pm to
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I was in Afghanistan a-hole.


Aff ganny?!
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:39 pm to
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OleWar


You KFOR guys are easy targets.

Funny once the shooting wars started that generation of "soldier" pretty much went to the house.

You didnt comment on when you were in Crimea? 70s? 80s?
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:42 pm to
You guys take it to the soccer board please?
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:48 pm to
What makes you such a piece of shite. No wife, no kids. No reason to live. Maybe you were an affirmative action hire, and could not live up to any expectations.

I know very few guys who "went to the house"

I was last in Crimea in 2011.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:51 pm to
Political Parties don’t run wars, that’s an incredibly stupid statement bro. Bigger GOP than you can ever dream off but that’s stupid as frick. The military and industrial complex and related agencies run wars and our involvement and they run both parties or they are beyond party affiliation. Hence, the freaking defense budget and spending have been reviewed or audited in decades
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 8:55 pm to
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I was last in Crimea in 2011.


Ah, so before the infestation of sub humans in 2014.

Its changed some since 2011.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:31 pm to
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What makes you such a piece of shite. No wife, no kids. No reason to live.


@ me next time, a-hole
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 9:44 pm to
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Another KFOR hero that didnt do a god damn thing. DO you still have your blue hat?


Trying to decide which gif better represents the current quality of the thread. I'm thinking the bottom one.

This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 9:48 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:23 pm to
Chicken needs to bite the bullet and move it to the poli board. This thread started out great until it devolved to proxy political bickering.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:25 pm to
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In this fanciful scenario, the Ukrainians are on the offensive. They need more fuel and ammo, and especially people, which they are running out of. Even if the Russians withdrew there would be enough Russian Crimean militia to make an assault on Crimea costly.


No one is close to thinking that Ukraine is running out of people, unless you buy what MacGregor has been trying to sell. He's been 100% wrong on most every point, including that damn terrain in the east, which any idiot with a topographical map can read. Russian navy has all but bugged out of there due within range of drones and Ukrainian missiles. Now maybe they have subs in the heavily armored caverns for them.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:44 pm to
This is an interesting animated map showing the daily change in the front lines since the first day of the war.

Several things stand out
1) The war has been a stalemate for the majority of its existance
2) Activity occurs in highly active surges that last a week or so, then everything goes into resupply/recovery mode.

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1629103095606128640
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New ??? Series: To mark the one-year anniversary of #Russia's full-scale invasion,
@TheStudyofWar
's geospatial team has spent recent weeks updating and enhancing our interactive time-lapses of assessed control-of-terrain in #Ukraine. Available here: LINK

Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 10:47 pm to
The four drone types included in the most recent aid package
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1629073094244548610
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Jump 20 - LINK
Altius 600 - LINK
Switchblade 600 - LINK
CyberLux (have not found info about the mentioned model but here are other products of the company so you can have an idea what it might be) - LINK






Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 1:10 am to
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Chicken needs to bite the bullet and move it to the poli board. This thread started out great until it devolved to proxy political bickering.
Nah. Some posters like to pop in here, make blatant political trolls, and when someone is dumb enough to engage them, scream, "Look at this! This is a political thread!"

It's disingenuous, but luckily, it's transparent as frick.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:33 am to
What kind of fricked up vet tells someone they should kill themselves twice? RA'd you need a time out
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:53 am to
ISW Update

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The Kremlin did not comment on the first anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, likely because Russia has failed to achieve any of its stated objectives and has not made significant territorial gains since July 2022. Russian President Vladimir Putin and his administration made no statements relating to the anniversary even though Putin has made numerous public appearances over the past three days.[1] Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev made inflammatory claims that Russia will win the war and reiterated that it is vital for Russia to achieve its goals to "push back the borders that threaten [Russia] as far as possible, even if they are the borders of Poland."

Select Russian milbloggers commented on the Kremlin's silence on the first anniversary of the war. Russian former officer and an avid Kremlin critic Igor Girkin criticized Medvedev's statements as delusional and lamented the fact that no one remembers the severe losses Russian airborne troops suffered during the fight for Hostomel Airfield near Kyiv on February 24, 2022.[4] Girkin claimed that he had long been forecasting that Russia had embarked upon a protracted and exhausting war. He noted that it is very difficult to defeat a state that receives external support using Russia's unmotivated forces, absent civil society, and strong brainwashing.[5] A Kremlin-affiliated milblogger attempted to downplay Russia's military failures expressing thanks that the war revealed shortcomings but distress at the high price paid in Russian blood.[6] The milblogger also amplified the Kremlin's false narrative that the war was necessary to stop supposed Ukrainian "aggression" in Donbas


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A Russian source capitalized on China's release of a 12-point peace plan to inaccurately portray China as supporting Russia's war in Ukraine. The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a document on February 24 titled "China's Position on the Political Settlement of the Ukraine Crisis" that called for Ukraine and Russia to respect each other's sovereignty, cease hostilities, resume peace talks, reduce strategic risks, and cease unilateral sanctions.[8] Advisor to the Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) head Rodion Miroshnik falsely asserted that China's peace plan insinuated that Ukraine and the West are the aggressors, supporting Russia's framing of the war.[9] China's release of the vague peace plan is likely in support of an ongoing effort balance between supporting Russia and retaining access to European markets by portraying China as a disinterested third-party mediator. The Chinese peace plan is unlikely to be a serious blueprint for a negotiated settlement to the war in Ukraine.


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US intelligence reportedly assesses that China is seriously considering sending weapons to Russia amidst continued pressure from Western sanctions regimes on Russia's defense industrial base (DIB). CNN reported on February 24 that sources familiar with the intelligence stated that Chinese officials have not made a final decision on the provision of lethal aid but are discussing the price and scope of the supply of attack drones and ammunition with Russian officials.[10] Senior US officials reportedly assess that recent intelligence suggests that China is leaning toward providing the equipment to Russia, although based on a bilateral arms sales agreement and not as security assistance.[11] German outlet Der Spiegel reported on February 23 that Russian officials are engaged in negotiations with Chinese drone manufacturer Xi'an Bingo Intelligent Aviation Technology for the mass production and delivery of 100 ZT-180 drones to Russian forces by April.[12] Der Spiegel reported that the ZT-180 drone can carry a 35-50kg warhead, suggesting that these drones may be a dual-use technology that Russian forces are seeking to acquire for reconnaissance purposes and not just as loitering munitions or high-precision weapons systems.[13] Russian and Chinese officials have reportedly developed plans for the shipment of the drones to Russia under falsified shipping documents labeling the equipment as replacement parts for civil aviation.[14]

Russian officials are likely seeking support from Chinese defense manufacturers due to restrictions that international sanctions regimes have placed on Russia's defense industry. The United Kingdom (UK) government and the US Department of Treasury both announced new sanctions and export ban measures on February 24 specifically targeting industries, entities, and individuals supporting Russian military capabilities.[15] The UK government stated that its new package of export bans aims to block the export of every item that Russia uses on the battlefield in Ukraine and that its new sanctions package would target senior executives of Russian state-owned nuclear power company Rosatom, executives of Russian defense firms, six entities involved in the repair of Russian military equipment, four Russian banks, and Russian elite figures.[16] The US Department of Treasury stated that Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) imposed sanctions on 22 individuals and 83 entities, 30 of which are reportedly third-country entities and individuals that help Russia evade existing sanctions measures.[17] Intensified Western sanctions regimes will likely continue to constrain Russia's ability to acquire the technology and materiel to maintain a defense industrial base necessary for supporting its war effort in Ukraine.


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Western governments made a variety of statements on the provision of military aid to Ukraine on February 24. Polish President Andzej Duda reported that Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki delivered the first batch of Leopards to Ukraine as part of the international "tank coalition."[18] Conversely, US Army Minister Christine Wormuth stated that it could take the United States more than a year to deliver M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine due to the production and modernization timeline associated with such tank variants.[19] US National Security Advisory Jake Sullivan stated on February 24 that Russia has already lost its war in Ukraine, but that the provision of F-16 fighter jets, which the Ukrainian government has consistently asked the West for, "are not the key capability" that Ukraine currently needs.[20] Sullivan remarked that the provision of F-16s is not a question of the short-term and instead a question of long-term defensive capabilities


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The Kremlin escalated its information conditions-setting for a possible false-flag operation in Russian-occupied Transnistria, Moldova. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) made a second claim on February 23 that Ukrainian forces are intensifying preparations to invade Transnistria following its first such claim earlier in the day.[22] The MoD emphasized that the claimed Ukrainian plan poses a significant threat to the Russian peacekeeping contingent in Transnistria. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs claimed on February 24 that Russia will consider any action that threatens Transnistrian security as an attack against Russia.[23] The Kremlin may instead aim to destabilize Moldova, however. Some Russian milbloggers amplified the Kremlin's rhetoric by claiming that the situation along the Ukrainian-Transnistrian border is becoming increasingly tense.[24] Moldovan officials continued to deny Russian claims on February 24, characterizing the claims as "aggressive disinformation" or "a psychological operation


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:53 am to
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Key Takeaways

The Kremlin did not comment on the first anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, likely because Russia has failed to achieve any of its stated objectives and has not made significant territorial gains since July 2022.

A Russian source capitalized on China's release of a 12-point peace plan to inaccurately portray China as supporting Russia's war in Ukraine.

US intelligence reportedly continues to assess that China is seriously considering sending lethal aid to Russia amid continued pressure from Western sanctions regimes on Russia's defense industrial base.

Western governments made a variety of statements on the provision of military aid to Ukraine on February 24.

The Kremlin escalated its information condition-setting for a possible false-flag operation in occupied Transnistria, Moldova.

Russian forces continued to conduct ground attacks northwest of Svatove and near Kreminna.

Russian sources confirmed that Russian forces have split certain Airborne (VDV) force formations across at least two axes of advance.

Russian forces made marginal territorial gains around Bakhmut and continued to conduct ground attacks across the Donetsk Oblast front line.

Ukrainian officials suggested that Russian forces may feel insecure in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast.

Russian authorities continue measures to expand the capacity of Russian peacekeepers.

Russian sources likely attempted to shift the blame for scandals associated with Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) commanders to the conventional Russian military.

Ukrainian partisans likely blew up a railway segment near Poshtove, Crimea.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:53 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 25 February 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

There have not been any reports of Iranian one-way-attack uncrewed aerial vehicles (OWA-UAVs) being used in Ukraine since around 15 February 2023.

Prior to this, Ukrainian armed forces reported shooting down at least 24 Shahed-136 OWA-UAVS between late January and early February 2023; and scores were destroyed in the first few days of the year.

This lack of OWA-UAV deployments likely indicates that Russia has run down its current stock. Russia will likely seek a resupply. Although the weapons do not have a good record in destroying their intended targets, Russia likely sees them as useful decoys which can divert Ukrainian air defences from more effective Russian cruise missiles.
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