re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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US President Joe Biden in Kyiv in Surprise Visit

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The tankie melts here have not disappointed. Just waiting for the biolabs and actual nazi cards to be played.

I see we have another full day of bitching ahead ITT on seemingly one of the more important days of the war, which is the intent of the thread.

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They’re cut from the same cloth when it comes to propaganda and authoritarianism.

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Since you struggle when it comes to reading, I’ll quote the part you conveniently left out. Nowhere did I say that Zelenskyy has killed any political enemies nor invaded another country.

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Why in the world would you connect those things? I didn't vote for Biden and won't vote for him next year, either, but I'm glad that he's in Kyiv. Our support for Ukraine has nothing to do with the disaster in Ohio, with the cluster at our southern border, or with any of a hundred other ways that I disagree with him.

Seriously, there's no relationship between our support for Ukraine and the Ohio disaster. Don't let hatred cause you make a connection where none exists.

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I will take exception to you here. The perception of a huge number of Americans is the Biden administration cares far more for the troubles of Ukraine than the serious problems here in America.

Biden has been in office over two years and has shown a complete lack of concern for what amounts to an overt invasion of millions across our southern border. And with this invasion, dangerous drugs are flowing across the border unabated that are killing tens of thousands of Americans and ruining entire communities. And Biden refuses to lift a finger to address any of it. And as for Ohio, Biden wasted two weeks doing nothing, then refused to send federal aid via FEMA, and only relented moments after Trump announced he was going to Ohio. All this while we send countless billions to Ukraine.

If nothing else, the optics of Biden’s actions are terrible. If Biden would show even a modicum of action on his part to address domestic issues, then much of the pushback from Americans on aid for Ukraine would disappear. But as things stand today, the perspective of a lot of Americans is not only does he care more for Ukraine than the US, but it appears he could not care less for the US and it’s problems at all.

Anyone want to take a guess as to what Putin's big announcement will be? They are playing this up huge in Moscow: concerts all the way to calling in both houses of legislatures for an emergency meeting.

I am going to say he changes the special military operation to a counter terrorism operation in regards to the"annexed" oblasts. They have used this before. Allows him to use drafted conscripts in Ukraine along with the mobilized military already there. The " Special Military Operation" by law can only last a certain time, the counter terrorism operation can last as long as it needed. It lasted for 10 years in Chechnya. It basically gives him more power and expanded possibilities in Ukraine and in Russia.

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I will take exception to you here. The perception of a huge number of Americans is the Biden administration cares far more for the troubles of Ukraine than the serious problems here in America. Biden has been in office over two years and has shown a complete lack of concern for what amounts to an overt invasion of millions across our southern border. And with this invasion, dangerous drugs are flowing across the border unabated that are killing tens of thousands of Americans and ruining entire communities. And Biden refuses to lift a finger to address any of it. And as for Ohio, Biden wasted two weeks doing nothing, then refused to send federal aid via FEMA, and only relented moments after Trump announced he was going to Ohio. All this while we send countless billions to Ukraine. If nothing else, the optics of Biden’s actions are terrible. If Biden would show even a modicum of action on his part to address domestic issues, then much of the pushback from Americans on aid for Ukraine would disappear. But as things stand today, the perspective of a lot of Americans is not only does he care more for Ukraine than the US, but it appears he could not care less for the US and it’s problems at all.

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I don’t disagree with anything you posted.

I will say a president can stay on top of local disasters, domestic issues, and still play a large roll in foreign affairs. The fact that Biden isn’t is a reflection on just how bad of a job Biden is doing.

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It basically gives him more power and expanded possibilities in Ukraine and in Russia.

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Makes me wonder then: why has he been holding back for a year? If you’ve always had the ability then why not use overwhelming force in the first place?

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I will say a president can stay on top of local disasters, domestic issues, and still play a large roll in foreign affairs. The fact that Biden isn’t is a reflection on just how bad of a job Biden is doing.

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Thanks. That was my entire point. There are many Americans who would not take exception to the support Biden is extending to Ukraine if he would just start doing something… anything about our problems here in America. It baffles me how his administration seems blind to this fact.

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If nothing else, the optics of Biden’s actions are terrible. If Biden would show even a modicum of action on his part to address domestic issues, then much of the pushback from Americans on aid for Ukraine would disappear. But as things stand today, the perspective of a lot of Americans is not only does he care more for Ukraine than the US, but it appears he could not care less for the US and it’s problems at all.

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"Because Biden doesn't care as much about the issues that I care about, he doesn't care about America."

I mean, until his announcement last year, you had lots of whining liberals saying that Biden didn't care about those suffering huge burdens of college-loan debt. His simply didn't care, according to them.

I mean, here's a GOP congressman whining six days ago that Biden doesn't care about whales. Seriously.

LINK

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Another endangered whale death in the mid-Atlantic, and this one NOAA confirms was NOT hit by a vessel or entangled in fishing gear. Doesn’t the Biden Administration care about the whales? It’s time to put a moratorium on offshore projects until we figure this out

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Saying that, because someone cares about A, that this proves that they don't care about B? Google "logical fallacy."

I can see how some don’t like the amount of money/support we are sending. However the majority of what we are sending is not cash. Majority is equipment that was bought and paid for years ago with budgets from long ago.

But those assists, even if in long term storage have a value on the books. That is the bulk of what we are sending.

Russia is not a friend of the US. Russia is a friend only to Russia. The status quo in Europe since WWII of no major wars has been broken. History has proven (lead up to WWII) that the world needs to stand up to aggression or they have a higher conflict to deal with.

Ukraine falls, and you will see more countries develop nukes. They will see that the would will not be there to defend you and see that had Ukraine not given up they nukes Russia would not have attacked.