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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:58 pm to TBoy
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:58 pm to TBoy
Retired USAF meteorologist @davidhelms570 says frozen ground by Monday:

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14-Day Forecast for Kreminna (through JAN 18)
Mixed precip next 24 hours then very cold air arrives Friday afternoon (JAN 6) afternoon. Frozen ground likely after JAN 8 with 10 days of <0C temperatures.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:12 pm to GOP_Tiger
Reuters reporter @steveholland1:
I'm not worried that the first batch of BFVs is only 50. That's how we have worked with HIMARS and most other systems. We'll bring some Ukrainians to Germany, train them on the very same 50 Bradleys that they will take back to Ukraine to use, and then they can train others to prepare for future deliveries.
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A new US security package for Ukraine to be unveiled Friday will include about 50 Bradley Fighting Vehicles, officials tell @MichaelStone and me.
I'm not worried that the first batch of BFVs is only 50. That's how we have worked with HIMARS and most other systems. We'll bring some Ukrainians to Germany, train them on the very same 50 Bradleys that they will take back to Ukraine to use, and then they can train others to prepare for future deliveries.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:19 pm to GOP_Tiger
Here's the transcript of today's call between Biden and Scholz that officially confirms that the US is giving Bradleys and Germany is sending Marders.
In addition, Germany is also giving a Patriot battery to Ukraine.
Edit: the AP says that the package announced tomorrow will total $2.8 billion.
In addition, Germany is also giving a Patriot battery to Ukraine.
Edit: the AP says that the package announced tomorrow will total $2.8 billion.
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Also included in the aid package will be HUMVEES, Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, or MRAPs, and a large amount of missiles and other ammunition.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 2:14 pm to GOP_Tiger
Ukraine is about to shove that proposed truce back in Putins backside.
Blyat!
Blyat!
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:45 pm to jfan244888
I think it is time for Jian Yang to modify his Not Hotdog app for use in the battlespace.


Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:58 pm to GOP_Tiger
Maybe they are trying to keep it from escalating unlike most of the idiots and the US.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:00 pm to GREENHEAD22
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They are trying to keep it from escalating inlike most of the idiots and the US.
Bless your heart.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 5:28 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Maybe they are trying to keep it from escalating
They chose escalation. It hasn't worked out for them. F Russia.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:12 pm to GOP_Tiger
7% of Russians go to church, any church. They don't give a crap about Russian Orthodox other than acting offended.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:15 pm to Tigris
I am talking about the Germans you dipshits.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:30 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Maybe they are trying to keep it from escalating unlike most of the idiots and the US.
Here's a way to keep it from escalating. Don't invade a sovereign nation.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:49 pm to TBoy
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Kirill has promised heaven to Russians who die while trying to kill Ukrainians.
Do people believe this in 2023? If they do, God Bless them.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 6:55 pm to GREENHEAD22
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I am talking about the Germans you dipshits.
You do understand that Germany has been sandbagging and Ukraine has been asking for many months. For Germany it is a heck of lot cheaper than having to defend its own border from Russian Imperialist aggression.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 7:26 pm to CitizenK
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7% of Russians go to church, any church. They don't give a crap about Russian Orthodox other than acting offended.
They seem to eat up the hatred for the west propaganda. I guess they want a Cold War again for the next fifty ears. Well at least pooty poot will be gone.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 7:29 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Do people believe this in 2023? If they do, God Bless them.
They believe a lot of things
The last count is nuts:
Youtube

Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:40 pm to Obtuse1
WeeWee, you'll be interesting in this news:
Edit: I am now seeing commentary that these rockets are compatible with the Aspide systems that Spain donated. So maybe not from Buks.
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The package will for the first time include radar-guided Sea Sparrow anti-air missiles, which can be launched from the sea or on land to intercept aircraft or cruise missiles. In a bit of battlefield innovation, the Ukrainian military has managed to tweak its existing Soviet-era BUK launchers to fire the Sea Sparrow, two people familiar with the matter said. Up to this point, Taiwan has been the only country to operate the ground-launched version of the missiles, while the U.S. and multiple allied navies use the ship-mounted version.
Edit: I am now seeing commentary that these rockets are compatible with the Aspide systems that Spain donated. So maybe not from Buks.
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Pentagon confirms that RIM-7 Sea Sparrow will be fired by Buk.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:45 pm to CitizenK
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7% of Russians go to church, any church.
Seven decades of atheist communism was quite effective at destroying Christianity in Russia.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:53 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:putin is the good guy
Maybe they are trying to keep it from escalating unlike most of the idiots and the US.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:05 pm to CitizenK
isw update
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Russian President Vladimir Putin’s announcement that Russian forces will conduct a 36-hour ceasefire between January 6 and January 7 in observance of Russian Orthodox Christmas is likely an information operation intended to damage Ukraine’s reputation. Putin instructed Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to initiate a ceasefire from 1200 January 6 to 2400 January 7 along the “entire line of contact between parties in Ukraine” and called on Ukraine to accept the ceasefire to allow “a large number of citizens of citizens professing Orthodoxy” to attend services on the day of Russian Orthodox Christmas.
Putin could have been seeking to secure a 36-hour pause for Russian troops to afford them the ability to rest, recoup, and reorient to relaunch offensive operations in critical sectors of the front. Such a pause would disproportionately benefit Russian troops and begin to deprive Ukraine of the initiative. Putin cannot reasonably expect Ukraine to meet the terms of this suddenly declared ceasefire and may have called for the ceasefire to frame Ukraine as unaccommodating and unwilling to take the necessary steps towards negotiations
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Putin’s framing of the ceasefire on religious grounds additionally reinforces another two-fold Russian information operation that frames Ukraine as suppressing religious groups and positions Putin as the true protector of the Christian faith.
The ceasefire announcement positions Putin as the guarantor of Christian values and beliefs. Putin and other Russian officials have frequently framed the war in Ukraine as a religious war against “Satanic” and “fanatical” elements of Ukrainian society that seek to undermine traditional religious values and morality.[9] Putin’s proposed ceasefire supports false Russian information operations that Russia is fighting a holy war against an immoral Ukrainian society and its secular Western overseers. In actuality, Russian forces have suppressed religious freedom in occupied Ukrainian territory since 2014
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The pro-war Russian milblogger information space responded to the ceasefire announcement with vitriolic discontent. Several prominent milbloggers emphasized that Russian soldiers do not want a ceasefire at all and remarked that it is a useless, defeatist ploy that is unlikely to succeed in the first place.[11] One milblogger who was previously embedded with Russian units in Bakhmut and attended the annexation ceremony at the Kremlin in September employed overtly genocidal, dehumanizing rhetoric in response to the ceasefire and stated that Russian soldiers do not want compromise: They “want to kill every person dressed in the uniform of the enemy army, regardless of gender and the circumstances that forced the subhuman [sic] to wear this uniform.”
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Putin reiterated his maximalist objectives in a telephone conversation with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on January 5. Putin emphasized that Moscow remains open to negotiations with Kyiv as long as such negotiations “take into account new territorial realities.”[13] Accounting for “territorial realities” in the context of negotiations means hammering Ukraine into making concessions that directly undermine its territorial sovereignty.
The use of a ceasefire as an information operation, coupled with Putin’s continued propagation of maximalist goals in Ukraine, continues to indicate that Putin has no desire to actually negotiate with Ukraine. Additionally, Putin’s continued alignment with and decision to platform milbloggers who routinely use openly genocidal language and call for unrestrained hostilities offer clear indicators of his intentions along these lines.
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Wagner Financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed that prisoners who volunteered with the Wagner Group in Ukraine received pardons, likely in a bid to inflate his influence and political power. Russian state media outlet RIA Novosti reported that Prigozhin told reporters that two dozen former prisoners completed six-moth contracts with the Wagner Group fighting in Ukraine and received pardons.[16] Russian sources published footage of Prigozhin holding a ceremony for the Wagner Group personnel at a rehabilitation center in Anapa, Krasnodar Krai, in which he awarded the former prisoners state medals and pardon papers.
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Prigozhin is likely using the ambiguity of the legal status of these former prisoners to create the impression that he is influential enough to be able to secure pardons for Wagner Group personnel. Prigozhin likely publicized the granting of the pardon papers to reflect this supposed influence in support of ongoing efforts to cast himself as the central figure in the ultra-nationalist pro-war community.
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Prigozhin also likely publicized the pardons to strengthen the Wagner Group’s ongoing recruitment of prisoners and to assuage current Wagner Group personnel’s possible concerns about promised legal rewards. US National Security Council Spokesperson John Kirby reported on December 22, 2022, that the Wagner Group currently has 50,000 personnel deployed to Ukraine, including 40,000 convicts recruited from Russian prisons.[22] Kirby reported that over 1,000 Wagner Group personnel died in Ukraine in a month, and Russian opposition outlet The Insider reported on November 5 that 500 former prisoners volunteering with the Wagner Group died in Ukraine in two months
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Key Takeaways
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s announcement that Russian forces will conduct a 36-hour ceasefire in observance of Russian Orthodox Christmas is likely an information operation intended to damage Ukraine’s reputation.
Putin’s framing of the ceasefire on religious ground reinforces another Russian information operation that falsely frames Ukraine as suppressing religious groups and positions Putin as the true protector of the Christian faith.
Putin has not changed his fundamental maximalist objectives in Ukraine.
Wagner Financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed that prisoners who volunteered with the Wagner Group in Ukraine received pardons, likely in a bid to inflate his influence and political power, strengthen Wagner Group’s prisoner recruitment, and reassure Wagner Group criminals in uniform.
Russian forces continued limited counterattacks to regain lost positions along the Svatove-Kreminna line, and Russian forces claimed that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in the area.
Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted a successful counterattack as Russian forces continued offensive operations around Bakhmut and west of Donetsk City.
Russian forces continued to operate sabotage and reconnaissance groups on the Dnipro River and reinforce positions in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast.
Russian milbloggers claimed recent Russian successes in Zaporizhia Oblast, likely to distract from the slow Russian offensive around Bakhmut that may be culminating.
Mobilized Russian servicemembers likely continue to represent an outsized portion of Russian military casualties in Ukraine.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:05 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 6 January 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Militias from the Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) and Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) were formally integrated into the Russian armed forces on 31 December 2022. President Putin presented the formations with their battle colours during a visit to Rostov-on-Don.
Russia claims the LNR and DNR are intrinsic parts of the Russian Federation following the fixed accession referendums of September 2022. However, it has discreetly controlled both since 2014, creating DNR's 1st Army Corps and LNR's 2nd Army Corps and supporting them with Russian military officers.
The status and identities of the DNR and LNR likely remain divisive within the Russian system. Even before the February 2022 invasion, these territories represented a significant drain on Russian finances. Now the Kremlin has overtly committed to supporting them, they will likely constitute a large political, diplomatic and financial cost for Russia which will last well beyond the current phase of the conflict.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 6 January 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Militias from the Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) and Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) were formally integrated into the Russian armed forces on 31 December 2022. President Putin presented the formations with their battle colours during a visit to Rostov-on-Don.
Russia claims the LNR and DNR are intrinsic parts of the Russian Federation following the fixed accession referendums of September 2022. However, it has discreetly controlled both since 2014, creating DNR's 1st Army Corps and LNR's 2nd Army Corps and supporting them with Russian military officers.
The status and identities of the DNR and LNR likely remain divisive within the Russian system. Even before the February 2022 invasion, these territories represented a significant drain on Russian finances. Now the Kremlin has overtly committed to supporting them, they will likely constitute a large political, diplomatic and financial cost for Russia which will last well beyond the current phase of the conflict.
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