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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:36 pm to
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No? Yes?


Hey look a wing nut that talks to himself, shocker
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3648 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:38 pm to
Super long update today

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Putin’s ability to sustain his narrative is vulnerable to his inability to deliver on his maximalist goals and promises in the long run. Putin and Shoigu assured the collegium that Russia will learn from the mistakes of the "special military operation" and promised to implement several changes to remedy problems within the war effort. Russia, however, is unlikely to efficiently address the fundamental flaws of its military structure—certainly not in any short period of time—and that failure will likely revitalize criticism. Putin will also need to continue to deflect blame from himself for failing to deliver on such promises onto the Russian MoD without destroying the credibility of the MoD and the uniformed military in the eyes of the Russian population. Putin’s consistent appeasement of the milbloggers demonstrates that he recognizes their influence on the Russian people of whom he asks such tremendous sacrifices to sustain his war effort.


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Putin and Shoigu continued to use descriptions of heightened nuclear readiness to appease domestic nationalist audiences and intimidate Western audiences without enunciating new policies or any fundamental changes in Russia’s nuclear posture or capabilities.[26] Putin stated that Russian forces will continue to develop Russia’s nuclear triad as the main guarantor of Russian sovereignty and territorial integrity.[27] Putin and Shoigu claimed that modern weapons compose 91.3% of Russia’s strategic nuclear arsenal, that Russian forces are fielding Avangard hypersonic warheads, and that Russian forces will soon introduce Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missiles into active service


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Such descriptions are extremely unlikely to represent enhanced Russian willingness to use nuclear weapons. The Kremlin routinely uses nuclear rhetoric to project strength to the far-right Russian community, which has accused the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) of failing to take sufficiently aggressive steps to support the war in Ukraine and to demand that the West reduce its "escalatory" provision of aid to Ukraine and to pursue negotiations on Russian terms by hinting at the possibility of nuclear escalation.


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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky traveled to Washington, DC to meet with US leaders on December 21. This is Zelensky’s first trip outside Ukraine since the escalation of Russia’s war on February 24.[30] ISW will report on the details of Zelensky’s visit and Russian reactions to the visit on December 22. Russian officials, media sources, and milbloggers have continuously expressed concern over the closeness of the Ukraine-US relationship and demoralization over the effectiveness of US and Western aid to Ukraine


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Key Takeaways

Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu proposed a series of expansive reforms and goals for Russian force generation that Russia is highly unlikely to complete in time to be relevant to the current conflict.

Putin and Shoigu reiterated maximalist Russian aims for the war in Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has intensified efforts to make peace with the critical pro-war nationalist community. Russian failures to achieve Putin’s stated goals jeopardize Kremlin efforts to regain control over the domestic narrative and to set conditions for the second year of the war.

Russian nuclear rhetoric is most likely an attempt to appease domestic audiences and intimidate Western audiences and not an indicator of preparation to use nuclear weapons.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky traveled to Washington, DC on December 21. ISW will report on the details of Zelensky’s visit and Russian reactions to the visit on December 22.

Russian and Ukrainian forces continued counterattacks along the Svatove-Kreminna line.

Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Donetsk City areas.

A Ukrainian official confirmed that Russian forces unsuccessfully attempted to establish control over the Dnipro delta islands.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu boasted about the growing Russian Young Army Cadets National Movement (Yunarmia) movement.

Russian officials intensified law enforcement crackdowns to deter partisan activities and target partisan sympathizers.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17809 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:38 pm to
Ahh, the Putin lovers have arrived. Of course they have. They mad. They real mad.

This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 8:47 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25953 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:45 pm to
Where are we at? Who is advancing? Who is retreating? I've been away from this thread for a week.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3648 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:47 pm to
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Where are we at? Who is advancing? Who is retreating?


Not much has changed

Russia has advanced closer to Bakhmut and Ukraine advanced closer to Kreminna-Svatove but neither have had major gains
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40098 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:47 pm to
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Wee, do you think the Republicans in the House are going to support Ukraine in the next session? Because I just heard MTG is against it.


MTG is a nut and yes enough GOP members will support the USA continuing to help Ukraine.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17809 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:48 pm to
The ground will freeze in two weeks, and then we'll likely see more significant changes.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9370 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:50 pm to
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Pathetic leftists….


Correct, Bernie and friends are losing their shiite over our support of Ukraine. The far left loves authoritarians
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11806 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:11 pm to
How dare anyone be upset that their money is being poured into Ukraine while they are crushed domestically by inflation
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145110 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:23 pm to
the poliboard is not taking the speach very well
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17809 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:43 pm to
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the poliboard is not taking the speach very well



Seriously, if we're not going to be political here, then we don't need to be talking about the Poliboard.
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4047 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:51 pm to
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the poliboard is not taking the speach very well


There ya go being all political on the OT.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27022 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Seriously, if we're not going to be political here, then we don't need to be talking about the Poliboard.


As much as I enjoy watching the PT circle jerk twist itself into knots, I agree. It’s not reasonable to poke them from here and then object when they show up spoiling for a fight.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145110 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:53 pm to
personally i dont have that big an issue of it sense i truly enjoy laughing at those goobers. but ill stop if thats what others would like
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27022 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:56 pm to
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personally i dont have that big an issue of it sense i truly enjoy laughing at those goobers. but ill stop if thats what others would like


It’s more that we don’t want to attract the room temperature IQ riffraff from their quarantine board
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65550 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:06 pm to
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Russia was unable to fully staff its existing brigades and regiments before the full-scale invasion and had not fully built out a new division it announced it was forming in 2020 before the start of the 2022 invasion of Ukraine....
Recent footage of a new Russian mechanized unit in action-





Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145110 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:20 pm to
i just realized that i used sense instead of since lmao
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5696 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:41 pm to
I’m glad we are giving JDAMs and Patriots to Ukraine but the longer this goes on the more they need artillery, both towed and self propelled, as well as a tanks. Eventually Russia is going to pull together a Russia style attack with a shite ton of artillery followed right up with a lot of armor. I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t happened already. I believe the debacle outside Kyiv at the start of the war really made the Russians a little gunshy about mass attacks. JDAMs are great when you have air superiority and as great as the Ukrainian pilots have shown so far eventually it comes down to brute numbers and they are woefully outnumbered in the air and Russia has air to air missiles that can hit Ukrainian aircraft from twice the range of Ukrainian missiles. A JDAM is still a dumb bomb though that while guided has to be dead dropped from the air which means the Ukrainian pilots will have to get within 15 miles or so of their target to deliver the bomb from altitude. I’m sure they will go in with fighter cover sending HARMs out in front of them but it’s still a very risky proposition. Somehow, from somewhere Ukraine is going to need 200 more artillery pieces and 300 tanks and I just have no idea where they are going to come from. We don’t have the artillery pieces in our arsenal to send and not many countries besides South Korea do either. Time is Ukraine’s greatest enemy. The second they are able to amount an offensive they have to do it. Not trying to sound negative, just how I see things at the moment.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 11:15 pm
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1062 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:49 pm to
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Perhaps we have nukes to look forward to in 2023 then.


What a cuck snowflake take
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2135 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:38 am to
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US Col R. Black: Battle Lost For Ukrainians - Their Losses At Bakhmut Are Massive & They Have Seen Nothing Yet
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"The battle for the Ukrainians has been lost and the war has already been decided," said retired US Army Special Forces and Marines Colonel Richard Black in his double intervention.
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As he pointed out during a conference of the Schiller Institute, the battle in Artyomovsk is disastrous for the Armed Forces of Ukraine without counting the fourfold increase in the troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation by the beginning of 2023.
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"Ukrainian troops are being thrown into a death trap in Bakhmut by the thousands and it seems they have no solution.
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Black noted that the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers is staggering and the population of the country will not allow to replace the losses in manpower.
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The conflict is lost, the colonel concluded.


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