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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 12/4/22 at 3:07 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 12/4/22 at 3:07 pm to Lakeboy7
The rhetoric is ramping up, too.
No coincidence the twitter bullshite is being dumped right now while Trump suggests trashing the constitution.
Something is about to happen with Russia.
No coincidence the twitter bullshite is being dumped right now while Trump suggests trashing the constitution.
Something is about to happen with Russia.
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 3:46 pm to Lakeboy7
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3 large ships loaded with US Abrams tanks, Bradleys, Strykers and other vehicles unloaded in Poland yesterday.
Some of this is rotational but we are beefing up the heavy stuff no doubt.
Need to be prepared for fall out in Belarus if any real instability comes to Russia from all this.
So goes Russia so goes lukashenko.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:05 pm to ned nederlander
Ukrainian attack drone passes a number of tests
KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO — Sunday, 4 December 2022, 19:16
State concern Ukroboronprom conducted a number of successful tests of a Ukrainian attack drone with a range of destruction of a thousand kilometres.
Source: Natalia Sad, press secretary of Ukroboronprom, on a joint information telethon, Ukrinform reports
Quote from Sad: "Today, a number of stages of successful testing are complete. In compliance with the instructions of the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we are moving to the stage of testing under the influence of electronic warfare."
Details: Sad reiterated that the concern recently announced the development of a Ukrainian kamikaze drone with a payload capacity of up to 75 kilograms of explosives.
"Once we successfully test the drone under electronic warfare, we hope to be able to test it in combat. We promised it before the end of this year, and we are trying to fulfil this promise," the Ukroboronprom spokeswoman said.
Ukrainska Pravda
KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO — Sunday, 4 December 2022, 19:16
State concern Ukroboronprom conducted a number of successful tests of a Ukrainian attack drone with a range of destruction of a thousand kilometres.
Source: Natalia Sad, press secretary of Ukroboronprom, on a joint information telethon, Ukrinform reports
Quote from Sad: "Today, a number of stages of successful testing are complete. In compliance with the instructions of the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we are moving to the stage of testing under the influence of electronic warfare."
Details: Sad reiterated that the concern recently announced the development of a Ukrainian kamikaze drone with a payload capacity of up to 75 kilograms of explosives.
"Once we successfully test the drone under electronic warfare, we hope to be able to test it in combat. We promised it before the end of this year, and we are trying to fulfil this promise," the Ukroboronprom spokeswoman said.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:10 pm to LSUPilot07
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If I were Ukraine I’d do just that. Let them use up their dwindling artillery stocks and wear their barrels out while I pulled the vast majority of my own artillery back out of harms way and send the ones needing repair to Poland leaving just enough guns on the line to keep the Russians from advancing and using heavy mortars more as a form of artillery. These next 2 weeks or so Ukraine needs to do as much restocking and repairs as they can because when the ground freezes over that will need every available weapon that they can get on the line. I know the Lithuanians are working their asses off to get the German PzH2000s fixed and sent back and they have about 1/3 of the M777s we sent in Poland right now for repair as well.
Per my sauce(s) that is exactly what the Ukies are doing. My buddy the tanker says they have sent some NATO standard stuff to Poland while sending some of their USSR stuff to Slovakia and the Czech Republic for repair. However, the vast majority of it is being repaired in whatever garage and workshop is big enough to do the job. He said that his T72 was recently serviced in a John Deere dealership. The poor bass turds in the infantry are stuck fighting in the mud and holding the line. My sauce(s) in Ukrainian intelligence tell me that the attacks on the electric infrastructure grid is really hurting their logistics since 40% or so of their freight locomotives are electric. My sauce(s) could not confirm this but he has heard rumors that Ukraine has looked into seeing if it was possible to get the steam locomotives that are on display in museums around Ukraine into working condition. They between 5-10 of the big 10 wheel locomotives that are operational on tourist railroads and another twenty or so on display that are in good enough condition that they can be brought back into service if needed. Germany has finally stepped up and is actually fulfilling its promises in full in regards to helping repair the rail infrastructure and the power infrastructure so the steam locomotives might not be needed.
They are not good for the environment but they can move a f**k load of supplies and are not dependent on the electric grid.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:12 pm to CitizenK
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The signs are there, Armenia is cracking down on pro-Russia protesters even though a CSTO nation. Russia no showed even though equivalent to NATO Article 5 achieved.
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Syrian protesters literally at Assad's front door with Russia being pre-occupied.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:18 pm to ned nederlander
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Need to be prepared for fall out in Belarus if any real instability comes to Russia from all this.
So goes Russia so goes lukashenko.
Yep. Poland needs add another layer or two to its border wall with Belarus ASAP.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:51 pm to WeeWee
Poland wouldn’t need our help to destroy Belarus but it’s always good to be prepared anyway. I wouldn’t think getting a steam engine in running condition again would be that much of an ordeal but then again that is not my area of expertise but as far as the environment goes this is war. Environmental concerns are irrelevant when you need 50 tanks brought across the country you do it by any means necessary. I hate that the infantry boys are suffering right now but that’s also part of their job description is to hold the line while their heavy weapons support can get resupplied and repositioned. 81 mm and 120mm mortars can do some real damage and Ukraine has been supplied with a good many as well as ammunition so they aren’t out there with just their rifles like some of the Russian conscripts were just left to die with no support but there’s no doubt they are the ones taking it on the chin right now while they get resupplied.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 5:03 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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French President Emmanuel Macron amplified Russian information operations
He's been doing this for months. What a weasel. It's almost like he's a bought-and-paid-for shill.
He wouldn't be the first politician who took a bribe to further an agenda that's contrary to the best interests of his constituency. And I think a lot of European (and probably American also) are getting paid by the Ruskies. It's relatively cheap statecraft in this age of integrity-deficient politicians.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 5:27 pm to WeeWee
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They between 5-10 of the big 10 wheel locomotives that are operational on tourist railroads and another twenty or so on display that are in good enough condition that they can be brought back into service if needed.
The Soviet E-class locos were their most common freight haulers right up to the end of their steam era. They won't be fast but they have decent tractive effort.
Useless trivia about steam locomotives: Faster locomotives used for passenger service will have larger wheels and more wheels on the leading trucks. The E-Class loco above is considered a 0-10-0 in the Whyte system and has no leading or trailing trucks. Leading trucks are for higher speed locos and trailing trucks are used to support larger fireboxes.
Below is a US "Hudson" 4-6-4 class steam engine used primarily for passenger service. 4 leading wheels for speed, 6 large wheels for speed (fewer were needed for most passenger service since the consists were lighter) and 4 wheels on the trailing trucks to support a large firebox.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 5:41 pm to Obtuse1
Ukraine is also negotiating with Siemens for SeaFloat very efficient combined cycle power plants which are on a barge.
FTR, combined cycle natural gas is far easier to build/operate than coal fired and cheaper too, both construction and operating costs
Here is a video of the system.
FTR, combined cycle natural gas is far easier to build/operate than coal fired and cheaper too, both construction and operating costs
Here is a video of the system.
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 5:59 pm to CitizenK
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Ukraine is also negotiating with Siemens for SeaFloat very efficient combined cycle power plants which are on a barge.
I saw that on Twitter yesterday but it was just one lone tweet so I didn't know if it was worth sharing. The one they pictured had a LNG tanker moored next to it for power.
BTW your link is broken.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:03 pm to LSUPilot07
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I wouldn’t think getting a steam engine in running condition again would be that much of an ordeal but then again that is not my area of expertise
It's not mine either, but I have watched many a documentary on steam locomotives. If repairing Soviet steam engines is anything like repairing American steam engines then it is going to take a lot of man hours to get them up and running. I would imagine that they have to rework the boilers and that every part has to be specially made. Ukraine has the man power and the tools to do the job but do they have the expertise? That I do not know. Of course these are being looked at as backups in case the Ukrainians and the Europeans (mostly the Germans) are not able to keep the electric infrastructure repaired enough to keep the trains moving. Ukraine has over 1300 electric locomotives so a couple of dozen steam engines is not that much but every little bit helps. Plus it is good propaganda to lift the spirits of the citizens.
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as far as the environment goes this is war. Environmental concerns are irrelevant when you need 50 tanks brought across the country you do it by any means necessary.
I was being half sarcastic with the environment comment. Obviously the logistics of the war is more important than environmental concerns. However, the Ukrainians are reliant on aid from countries that have sworn loyalty to the green energy movement and you never know when American or European beuracrat get his panties in a wad over burning coal.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:06 pm to Obtuse1
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I saw that on Twitter yesterday but it was just one lone tweet so I didn't know if it was worth sharing. The one they pictured had a LNG tanker moored next to it for power.
If those get built and sent to Ukraine then they will need SAM missile systems moored next to them instead.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:20 pm to Obtuse1
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I saw that on Twitter yesterday but it was just one lone tweet so I didn't know if it was worth sharing. The one they pictured had a LNG tanker moored next to it for power.
The barge is moored further in and much smaller. That photo is an LNG tanker and a receiving FSRU.
Let me try again
LINK
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:33 pm to WeeWee
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If those get built and sent to Ukraine then they will need SAM missile systems moored next to them instead.
Maybe a good solution to put plants up rivers and use fuel oil instead of natural gas. They only need to have burners for fuel oil or dual fuel burners for both the gas turbine driver and the boiler (which boosts capacity of steam from just the turbine exhaust) in combined cycle. The steam generated turns a steam turbine.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:50 pm to WeeWee
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Ukraine has over 1300 electric locomotives so a couple of dozen steam engines is not that much but every little bit helps.
Agreed. I wonder how they would handle the coaling and watering of those locos along the line. Not saying it couldn't be done it would just be interesting to see the solutions. Tanker fire trucks would be good for water I suppose.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:32 pm to WeeWee
Yeah I always get a nice laugh of all the greenie politicians telling people they shouldn’t drive their cars or do other things that pollute but then they go hop on their private jets which pollutes more in one flight than someone’s car would driving for a year. They are all hypocrites. Rules for thee, not for me types.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:38 pm to LSUPilot07
ISW Update
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Ukrainian officials have indicated that Ukrainian forces plan to continue offensive operations over the coming winter to capitalize on recent battlefield successes and prevent Russian forces from regaining the battlefield initiative.
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Senior US government officials are mistakenly identifying the optimal window of opportunity for Ukraine to conduct more counteroffensives as the spring rather than winter, despite Ukrainian officials’ statements to the contrary.
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Ukraine’s ability to maintain the military initiative and continue the momentum of its current operational successes depends on Ukrainian forces continuing to conduct successive operations through the winter of 2022-2023.
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Weather conditions in winter 2023 likely will dictate a timeframe in which Ukraine can conduct maneuver warfare and continue its string of operational successes with minimal pauses that would increase the risks of Ukraine losing the initiative
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If Ukraine’s allies and partners do not support Ukrainian forces to conduct large-scale decisive counteroffensive operations this winter—as the DNI’s statements might be construed to suggest – then Ukrainians‘ ability to conduct maneuver warfare will be constrained until likely at least after the spring mud season in March 2023.[14] Such a course of action will likely prematurely culminate Ukraine‘s current momentum and grant shattered Russian forces a valuable three-to-four-month reprieve to reconstitute and prepare to fight on a better footing.
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Key Takeaways
Ukrainian officials have indicated that Ukrainian forces will continue counteroffensive operations over the upcoming winter.
Ukraine’s ability to maintain the military initiative depends on Ukrainian forces continuing counteroffensive operations in the winter of 2022-2023.
Russian sources reported that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in the directions of Kreminna and Svatove.
Russian forces continued to conduct offensive operations around Bakhmut and Avdiivka.
Groups of mobilized Russian soldiers continue to disrupt Russian force generation efforts with refusals to fight, insubordination, and defiance.
Russian forces likely publicly executed residents in occupied Luhansk Oblast on accusations of partisan activity.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:18 pm to StormyMcMan
There seems to be a sense of anticipation among pro-Ukraine accounts right now, and a similar shadow of doom in the pro-Russian ones.
Ukraine still has significant advantages in the South and along the Svatove-Kreminna line, because of the Russian supply difficulties in these areas.
Ukraine continues to attack Russian logistics in these areas, and winter exacerbates logistical concerns, because stuff breaks down more (valves and seals often don't like repeatedly freezing and thawing) and cold causes lubricants to gum up. The Shahed drones that Russia got from Iran reportedly don't work at all in the cold (we'll see about that claim).
Ukraine has won several key battles in this war by attrition of Russian logistics, when then opens opportunities for attack or causes Russia to withdraw. There's no reason to expect any change in that simple strategy.
Ukraine still has significant advantages in the South and along the Svatove-Kreminna line, because of the Russian supply difficulties in these areas.
Ukraine continues to attack Russian logistics in these areas, and winter exacerbates logistical concerns, because stuff breaks down more (valves and seals often don't like repeatedly freezing and thawing) and cold causes lubricants to gum up. The Shahed drones that Russia got from Iran reportedly don't work at all in the cold (we'll see about that claim).
Ukraine has won several key battles in this war by attrition of Russian logistics, when then opens opportunities for attack or causes Russia to withdraw. There's no reason to expect any change in that simple strategy.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:33 pm to GOP_Tiger
just like football, you run the play until they prove they can stop it.
unless you’re Russia, then you run the play over and over and over and over
unless you’re Russia, then you run the play over and over and over and over
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