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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/8/22 at 12:59 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 11/8/22 at 12:59 pm to WestCoastAg
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they are completely banking on tonights elections and having people in place that will push strong to cut American support
At the risk of getting political:
Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying that Ukraine won't get another cent under the GOP.
But Kevin McCarthy says they will just require greater oversight and won't abandon Ukraine
So who knows, but I'd believe the House Minority Leader over a member on future actions
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 1:00 pm
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:12 pm to StormyMcMan
The odd thing is that this is obviously something on which Sen. McConnell has very strong convictions.
What I expect is that McCarthy will initially include less aid to Ukraine than McConnell and Biden want. Then, the spending bill will get amended in the Senate with higher amounts, and then a conference committee will meet and compromise.
In other words, it's possible that a GOP House might lead to a slightly smaller level of aid to Ukraine than otherwise, but it's not going to be a big deal.
As I said, the more Israel and Iran are dragged into the conflict, the more GOP support there will be.
What I expect is that McCarthy will initially include less aid to Ukraine than McConnell and Biden want. Then, the spending bill will get amended in the Senate with higher amounts, and then a conference committee will meet and compromise.
In other words, it's possible that a GOP House might lead to a slightly smaller level of aid to Ukraine than otherwise, but it's not going to be a big deal.
As I said, the more Israel and Iran are dragged into the conflict, the more GOP support there will be.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:27 pm to StormyMcMan
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I never really understood why we thought this would play out different but yeah
It's a drop in the bucket compared to the 40% of exports which Russia has lost. There are no pipelines to India and Russia has two small by US standards LNG export terminals. Maybe one day there could be a pipeline to India but it has to pass through several nations then either over the Himalaya Mountains or through a pass at Kabul, Afghanistan.
India will only buy Russian LNG on the cheap like it has its oil.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:29 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Sen. McConnell has very strong convictions.
The only thing any of the blue or red colored snakes have "strong convictions" about is their offshore bank accounts and keeping them hidden and filled... hilarious to believe these crooked fricks care about anything other than power and money
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:20 pm to nopants
How do they come up with a number for KIA for the enemy?
Seems like that would be pretty much impossible to calculate.
Seems like that would be pretty much impossible to calculate.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:03 pm to StormyMcMan
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At the risk of getting political:
Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying that Ukraine won't get another cent under the GOP.
But Kevin McCarthy says they will just require greater oversight and won't abandon Ukraine
So who knows, but I'd believe the House Minority Leader over a member on future actions
The problem here is that the Kremlin is living in a fantasy world where Kiev will do whatever Washington says, and that if the Republicans take over Congress in the midterms then America will realign with Putin.
Neither of those are reality based. Some Republicans, like Greene, actually do vocally support Russian interests and parrot Russian propaganda. But she is not taken seriously even by her own party leadership. She is a side show.
I don't see America bending the knee to Putin after today, even though it is pretty clear that the Republicans will likely take control of both houses of Congress.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:39 pm to TBoy
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But she is not taken seriously even by her own party leadership. She is a side show.
Meanwhile the poliboard has her penciled in as the 2024 VP candidate.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:41 pm to nopants
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The only thing any of the blue or red colored snakes have "strong convictions" about is their offshore bank accounts and keeping them hidden and filled... hilarious to believe these crooked fricks care about anything other than power and money
You can believe what you want to believe, but what you are describing is actually less than one third of American politicians. Most of them (of both parties) got into politics because they care very much about the issues and feel a deep desire to make their community and country a better place.
I worked in that world full-time for ten years, and I've since been out of it for that long. I've spent far too much time with politicians and gotten to know some of them rather well, and what you wrote is simply not true.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:13 pm to ghost2most
quote:Don't they collect ears or something like that?
How do they come up with a number for KIA for the enemy?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:13 pm to GOP_Tiger
Agreed because I worked in a few campaigns and got to know several. Many would do far better financially if not in the House or the Senate.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
There's apparently a real attempt going on from Ukrainian forces to advance in the Kherson region. There are credible reports of fighting in Snihurivka (directly north of Kherson city) and south of Dudchany along the Dnipro.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:58 pm to CitizenK
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???? have entered the northeastern outskirts of Snihurivka, the town is now contested.
LINK
Snihurivka is a key road and rail junction for the area. It is also one of the last Russian strong points on the west side of the Inhulets River. Once Snihurivka falls the Ukrainians can establish a new bridgehead to cross the Inhulets River and drive towards Nova Kokhovka.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:19 pm to WeeWee
Russias own MO numbers say 100000 dead.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:21 pm to GOP_Tiger
isw update
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Iranian state-run outlet Nour News Agency reported that Russian National Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev arrived in Tehran on November 8, likely to discuss the potential sale of Iranian ballistic missiles to Russia
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The Kremlin is continuing efforts to covertly acquire munitions for use in Ukraine to mitigate the effects of international sanctions and backfill Russia’s ongoing depletion of domestic munitions stockpiles
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Wagner Group forces are continuing to exaggerate their claimed territorial gains in Donbas to further distinguish themselves from proxy and conventional Russian forces.
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Key Takeaways
Iranian sources announced—without Russian confirmation—that Russian National Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev arrived in Tehran on November 8, likely to discuss the potential sale of Iranian ballistic missiles to Russia. Iran likely announced Patrushev’s arrival to highlight the deepening cooperation between Moscow and Tehran to an international audience, as well as to implicitly highlight that a high-ranking Russian official turned to Iran for help in Ukraine.
Wagner Group forces are continuing to exaggerate their claimed territorial gains in Donbas to further distinguish themselves from proxy and conventional Russian forces.
Ukrainian forces likely made marginal gains northwest of Svatove, Luhansk Oblast, and Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces intensified offensive operations toward Kreminna.
Russian forces continued offensive operations around Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and in western Donetsk Oblast.
Ukrainian authorities attempted to counteract Russian authorities’ continued efforts to strengthen control of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP).
The disproportionate financial burden of Russian force generation efforts continues to fall primarily on Russian regional governments’ budgets, prompting public backlash.
Financial and bureaucratic issues are continuing to hinder Russian efforts to replenish formerly elite units defending critical areas of the front line, potentially threatening the integrity of Russian defenses in occupied parts of Ukraine.
Russian occupation authorities in Kherson Oblast may be trying to force residents out of the western part of the oblast by cutting communications on the west bank of the Dnipro River.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:58 pm to StormyMcMan
A long (15 min) compilation of Russian state TV clips talking about the US elections as well as the idea of negotiations. As you surely have noticed I am fascinated by the Russian talking heads.
While I am not surprised at their focus on US politics I am surprised at how much time they devote to it. These clips were from yesterday and they of course mention MTG. They refer to her as the "leader of the Republicans In Congress.
YT
While I am not surprised at their focus on US politics I am surprised at how much time they devote to it. These clips were from yesterday and they of course mention MTG. They refer to her as the "leader of the Republicans In Congress.
YT
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:58 pm to StormyMcMan
Something to keep in mind ahead of tonight's election results: there will likely be a lame-duck session of Congress where Democrats try to pass lots of stuff before Republicans are sworn in in January.
There's been discussion of a $50 billion aid bill to Ukraine, to basically take care of Ukraine's needs for the next year. McConnell is in favor of it, so there wouldn't b a Senate filibuster. It would remove any doubt about US support to Ukraine, instead of leaving it up to the next Congress to decide.
There's been discussion of a $50 billion aid bill to Ukraine, to basically take care of Ukraine's needs for the next year. McConnell is in favor of it, so there wouldn't b a Senate filibuster. It would remove any doubt about US support to Ukraine, instead of leaving it up to the next Congress to decide.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:32 pm to Jim Rockford
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Meanwhile the poliboard has her penciled in as the 2024 VP candidate.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:36 pm to GOP_Tiger
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As I said, the more Israel and Iran are dragged into the conflict, the more GOP support there will be.
That would be awesome huh bruh
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:39 pm to Jim Rockford
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Meanwhile the poliboard has her penciled in as the 2024 VP candidate.
Really? Prove it.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:05 am to StormyMcMan
quote:We know that 'public backlash' in Russia isn't taken seriously by anyone. However the Regional politicians may now be seriously discussing the advantages of independence from Moscow. The only disadvantage to independence is now 70% dead and destroyed in the mud of the Donbas.
The disproportionate financial burden of Russian force generation efforts continues to fall primarily on Russian regional governments’ budgets, prompting public backlash.
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