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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8619 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:08 pm to
That’s just it. You’d have to completely overhaul your airbases and that would be a prime target for Russia with their suicide drones and missiles to hit.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:20 pm to
ISW Update

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ISW is publishing an abbreviated campaign update today, October 23. This report focuses on Russian Defense Minister Shoigu's several calls with his western counterparts and preposterous claims that Ukraine is preparing a false-flag “dirty bomb” attack against Russia, likely to pressure Ukraine into concessions and intimidate NATO. On the battlefield, Ukrainian forces conducted further offensive operations in northeastern Ukraine, and Russian forces continued to set conditions for a withdrawal from Kherson. Those developments are summarized briefly and will be covered in more detail tomorrow.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu likely sought to slow or suspend Western military aid to Ukraine and possibly weaken the NATO alliance in scare-mongering calls with several NATO defense ministers on October 23.


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The Kremlin is unlikely to be preparing an imminent false-flag dirty bomb attack.


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Shoigu’s claims likely do not portend Russian preparations to use non-strategic nuclear weapons in Ukraine either


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Shoigu’s calls—and Russian state media’s amplification of false dirty bomb threats—are therefore likely intended to intimidate Western states into cutting or limiting support for Ukraine as Russia faces continued military setbacks and the likely loss of western Kherson by the end of the year. ISW has assessed since May that Putin seeks to force Ukraine to accept his terms and deter continued Western support for Ukraine through nuclear brinksmanship.[8] The recipients of Shoigu’s calls are also notable. The Kremlin has repeatedly framed the United States and the United Kingdom as Ukraine’s primary backers and the enablers of what it claims are aggressive policies toward Russia, while France and Turkey have (to varying degrees) framed themselves as mediators in the conflict. Shoigu’s round of calls was likely further Russian saber-rattling to intimidate Ukraine’s Western supporters and possibly widen fissures within the NATO alliance, not condition setting for imminent nuclear use.


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Key inflections in ongoing military operations on October 23:

Russian authorities likely cut internet access in Kherson City on October 22 to limit local reporting of Russian evacuations to the east bank of the Dnipro River.[9] Russian sources claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian ground attacks in northwestern Kherson Oblast.[10]

Ukrainian and Russian sources reported fighting near Siversk, Soledar, Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Marinka in eastern Ukraine.[11] The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian ground attacks in western Donetsk Oblast.[12]

Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in the direction of Kreminna and Svatove.[13]

Russian forces struck Zaporizhzhia City, Mykolaiv City, and other areas in Mykolaiv Oblast with Shahed 136 drones and S-300 missiles.[14] Ukrainian sources reported that Russian forces targeted Nikopol and Marhanets with multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) strikes.[15]

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian Air Force Command claimed that Ukrainian forces have shot down a total of 273 Iranian-provided Shahed-136 drones since Russia began using them in Ukraine on September 13.[16]

A Ukrainian government source reported that Iranian instructors in Belarus (in addition to previously reported instructors in Crimea) aided Russian forces in the coordination of previous Shahed-136 drone strikes against Kyiv Oblast and northern and western oblasts in Ukraine.[17]

Russian outlets continued to set conditions to blame Ukraine for the destruction of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant, which Russian forces will likely destroy to slow advancing Ukrainian forces[18][19]
Russian sources widely discussed the construction of defensive positions in Kursk Oblast.[20]

A Ukrainian source reported that Russian authorities in Krasnodar Krai have “indefinitely” extended the “vacations” (meaning forced abductions as part of an ethnic cleansing campaign) of children from Enerhodar, Zaporizhia Oblast.[21]

Russian sources reported that private businesses are offering to train mobilized men on privately owned military and medical equipment in exchange for money.[22] Another Russian fighter aircraft crashed into a two-story building in Novo-Lenino, Irkutsk Oblast.[23]
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:32 pm to
This isn’t Vietnam, or something in the Middle East, how long before the proxy war doesn’t mean anything?
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10336 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:43 pm to
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A Ukrainian source reported that Russian authorities in Krasnodar Krai have “indefinitely” extended the “vacations” (meaning forced abductions as part of an ethnic cleansing campaign) of children from Enerhodar, Zaporizhia Oblast.[21]


Just fricking barbaric and disgusting.
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:13 pm to
Could have said they’re eating babies and you’d believe it.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2869 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:22 pm to
Does Ukraine have the expertise and materials to explode a nuclear device?

Or is that why the Russians are apparently pointing fingers at the UK?
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:29 pm to
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Does Ukraine have the expertise and materials to explode a nuclear device?


No.

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Or is that why the Russians are apparently pointing fingers at the UK?


Yes. They hate the Brits more than they hate us.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8619 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:37 pm to
It’s the Russians running their same old played out and tired playbook. They have threatened to nuke people since the 50’s. It’s the only thing they can do. But they won’t because they know the consequences. Ukraine doesn’t have nukes but it doesn’t matter, the Russians are one big lie that they have told so much they actually believe it to be true.
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 9:40 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150170 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:39 pm to
I thought Russia and England were on relatively ok terms given that London was basically a playgrouns for oligarchs

Before all of this obviously
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:51 pm to
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Does Ukraine have the expertise and materials to explode a nuclear device?

Or is that why the Russians are apparently pointing fingers at the UK?


A dirty bomb doesn't really require expertise. Explosives and radioactive material.

It's be worthless for Ukraine to do it, but a perfect false flag for russia to justify a tactical nuke. Question is, is Putin really that crazy.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10146 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:15 pm to
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they’re eating babies

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BrianKellyRespecter

Y’all are a bunch of sick fricks.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15773 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:29 pm to
So Russia thinks that international laws are bull crap and that it will fight NATO to take back "their" territory. Ukraine is brave but they are no US military. We could march to Moscow easier than to Baghdad.

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LINK
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2504 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:01 pm to
Twitter videos requiring sign-in are valueless to those of us who are not twitters.
Posted by TitusCrow
Member since Mar 2020
74 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:37 pm to
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Twitter videos requiring sign-in are valueless to those of us who are not twitters.


There's a solution for that. Just swap out twitter.com for nitter.net in the URL:
LINK
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34407 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:59 pm to
TIL
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19870 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:51 am to
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Ukraine to do it, but a perfect false flag for russia to justify a tactical nuke. Question is, is Putin really that crazy.




I hope one of them starts popping off nukes.
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:29 am to
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Russia is preparing to defend Kherson and there are no signs that Russian forces are fleeing the city, Ukraine's intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov says. "They're bringing new military units there and preparing the city streets for defence"
LINK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5660 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 6:23 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 24 October 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Russia continues to use Iranian uncrewed aerial vehicles (UAVs) against targets throughout Ukraine. Ukrainian efforts to defeat the Shahed-136 UAVs are increasingly successful, with official sources, including President Zelenskyy, claiming that up to 85% of attacks are being intercepted.

These UAVs are slow, noisy and fly at low altitudes, making lone aircraft easy to target using conventional air defences.

Russia is likely expending a high number of Iranian Shahed-136 UAVs in order to penetrate increasingly effective Ukrainian air defences. It is likely using them as a substitute for Russian-manufactured long-range precision weapons which are becoming increasingly scarce.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 6:52 am to
They really do just keep throwing crap at a board and see what sticks

Yesterday
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On Sunday, 23 October, Sergei Shoigu, Russia’s Minister of Defence, had a phone conversation with the third NATO defence minister on the same day, Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary of the United Kingdom.

The Ministry of Defence of the United Kingdom issued a statement in this regard, as did Russia reported this on its Telegram channel, according to European Pravda.

"Shoigu expressed his concern about possible provocations by the Ukrainian side with the use of a ‘dirty bomb’ to his British colleague", –– the report states
LINK


And now today

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Russian propaganda running into high gear today: "The Russian Defense Ministry has information about the contacts of Zelensky's office with the UK on the issue of obtaining technology to create nuclear weapons" - TASS


Can't find the source article, but here is the tweet
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:02 am to
Residential areas of Novaya Kaxovka on the left bank of the Dneper shelled by Yougayne terror regime.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 7:08 am
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